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goofy

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Re: variegated Dactylorhiza
« Reply #30 on: May 06, 2010, 10:28:46 AM »
hey, I never heared of variegated seedlings from veriegated plants.
so I have severely doubts.
pollinating the plant just will weaken the small tuber.

keep in same conditions to mature the tubers.

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« Last Edit: May 06, 2010, 10:50:47 AM by goofy »

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Re: variegated Dactylorhiza
« Reply #31 on: May 06, 2010, 08:59:13 PM »
Dactylorhiza fuchsii is definitely not weakened by bearing seeds. It splits regularily anyway if conditions do it favour!
BUT having a try on seeds is really worth the effort: it is the natural way of preserving and multiplying genetic material. Hence: there may be no variegated seedlings in the 1st generation BUT likeliness of occurrence of variegated seedlings in future generations is massively enhanced.
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goofy

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Re: variegated Dactylorhiza
« Reply #32 on: May 07, 2010, 07:16:47 AM »
Dactylorhiza fuchsii is definitely not weakened by bearing seeds. It splits regularily anyway if conditions do it favour!
BUT having a try on seeds is really worth the effort: it is the natural way of preserving and multiplying genetic material. Hence: there may be no variegated seedlings in the 1st generation BUT likeliness of occurrence of variegated seedlings in future generations is massively enhanced.


so, good luck, winwen  :)

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Re: variegated Dactylorhiza
« Reply #33 on: May 07, 2010, 08:23:45 AM »
Thanks goofy!
BTW: I have propagated Lilium japonicum f. albomarginatum from seed and the resulting plants are showing the same characteristic albomarginated leaves as their parents.
So let's hope for some albomarginated children!
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Re: variegated Dactylorhiza
« Reply #34 on: May 29, 2010, 03:59:13 PM »
I'm excited today!  :D ;D My variegated Dactylorhiza fuschii has a flower spike coming up. If I self pollinate it should it come true?
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Re: variegated Dactylorhiza
« Reply #35 on: May 29, 2010, 11:34:30 PM »
Mark l will keep my fingers crossed for your Dactylorhiza fuschii.. you deserve some luck, please remember us all when you make your millions.

Angie :)
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Re: variegated Dactylorhiza
« Reply #36 on: May 30, 2010, 11:57:25 AM »
Mark

The chances are very slim of the seed producing variegated plants. If your plant is true variegated then it means that the leaves have two different tissues growing on them. The white has had a genetic switch turned off and is not producing the normal green colour. When grown from seed it will more than likely revert back to it's green form I'm afraid. You may get lucky though and is worth a try as it will cost you nothing and you will still end up with at least normal Dacts in the end.

I wish you luck.

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Re: variegated Dactylorhiza
« Reply #37 on: May 30, 2010, 12:31:32 PM »
Thanks Angie and David

It will be interesting to see if the flowers are variegated also.

I suppose because it's flowering size I can remove the new tuber to make the plant produce another one or two.
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Re: variegated Dactylorhiza
« Reply #38 on: May 30, 2010, 01:05:12 PM »
Thanks Angie and David

It will be interesting to see if the flowers are variegated also.

I suppose because it's flowering size I can remove the new tuber to make the plant produce another one or two.

I would as i think it's going to be the fastest way to increase your stock. I'd certainly flask some seed as well though on the off chance some of the seedlings are the same. As I said before, nothing to lose.

David

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Re: variegated Dactylorhiza
« Reply #39 on: June 17, 2010, 11:29:23 AM »
I'm updating the thread with another picture now my variegated Dactylorhiza is flowering.

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Re: variegated Dactylorhiza
« Reply #40 on: June 17, 2010, 12:42:23 PM »
If you hadn't said variegated Rob I'd have said virused! :-\
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Re: variegated Dactylorhiza
« Reply #41 on: June 17, 2010, 01:26:29 PM »
If I had a really good collection of Dactylorhiza I don't think I'd risk it in the garden, but I only have half a dozen which struggle to multiply, so I'll give it some garden room for now.

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Re: variegated Dactylorhiza
« Reply #42 on: June 17, 2010, 05:54:10 PM »
Why would the variegation not appear in the flowers? My variegated Geranium pratense has normal flowers
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Re: variegated Dactylorhiza
« Reply #43 on: June 17, 2010, 07:12:23 PM »
If you hadn't said variegated Rob I'd have said virused! :-\

I would be saying the same thing,I would be interested in seeing a close up of a leaf.
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Re: variegated Dactylorhiza
« Reply #44 on: July 12, 2010, 08:35:11 PM »
Robs variegated dactylorhiza has been around in a number of nurseries for over 30 years. It first appeared in a nursery in South Yorkshire and as far as I understand has only been increased by tuber multiplication. Having got fed up with various judges challenging me I got two plants virus tested and both were negative. If it was a virus all the populations would have died out long since. As a commercial grower with a large population of dactylorhizas I would never keep plants that could cause financial ruin.

 


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