Scottish Rock Garden Club Forum
Specific Families and Genera => Pleione and Orchidaceae => Topic started by: mark smyth on February 03, 2013, 08:51:55 PM
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http://www.facebook.com/#!/photo.php?fbid=474841612577027&set=a.399100980151091.87632.399079056819950&type=1&theater (http://www.facebook.com/#!/photo.php?fbid=474841612577027&set=a.399100980151091.87632.399079056819950&type=1&theater)
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No facebook-user!
Sorry, Mark!
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works for me. It is a fabulous form.
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People may regard me as a modern day luddite :) but Facebook and Twitter are absolute NO NOs
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Wow, that one is stunning!!
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I would be tempted to swap one of my variegated plants for one like that
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I would be tempted to swap one of my variegated plants for one like that
I'd offer my mother in law for one like that! what a cracker it is!
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That is superb, like winwen and Art I am never going to use Facebook, but clicking on the link shows me the picture.
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Brian and Arthur, why?
I'll ask if I can post it here.
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Facebook is funded by analysing all your preferences, brand mentioning etc and I haven't the time to post on that and look at all my friends stuff. If they want to email me they can and Facebook won't profit from it either. If they want to share photos it's easy enough, and I can't see any advantage in joining up just to post to vast amounts of 'friends'. You can always email the same thing to a 'group' which serves the same purpose. I'm just a founder member of the Grumpy Old Men Club.
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As am I.
I regard Facebook and Twitter i the same way as COLD CALLING and nobody likes that. I still receive calls for PPI misselling, computer problems, conumer questionnaires etc etc
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Facebook is funded by analysing all your preferences, brand mentioning etc and I haven't the time to post on that and look at all my friends stuff. If they want to email me they can and Facebook won't profit from it either. If they want to share photos it's easy enough, and I can't see any advantage in joining up just to post to vast amounts of 'friends'. You can always email the same thing to a 'group' which serves the same purpose. I'm just a founder member of the Grumpy Old Men Club.
And Facebook reserves the right to use any photos posted there for their financial gain......
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I agree Facebook is a total pain but if Mark had not seen it there ,we would not have seen it. You can look without joining.
I have seen hundreds of this dactylorhiza in the wild and never one like that. I wonder if it has crossed with something else.
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I agree Facebook is a total pain but if Mark had not seen it there ,we would not have seen it. You can look without joining.
I have seen hundreds of this dactylorhiza in the wild and never one like that. I wonder if it has crossed with something else.
Only some Facebook photos are visible to non-members -yes, we are lucky that Mark found this public photo.
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Only some Facebook photos are visible to non-members -yes, we are lucky that Mark found this public photo.
How do you see it....if I use the link I get the sign up page
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Sorry, but I can not see the picture. Nor I am a Facebook user.
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Curious - I can see the page even when not logged into facebook. However, a direct link to the photo itself usually works for most people - would it be ok to post that link, Mark?
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How do you see it....if I use the link I get the sign up page
I don't know what makes it work. ::)
I just clicked on the link, Martin. No idea why it worked- there are many occasions when I have tried to open such a link and only got the sign up page, as you describe. :-\
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I'm neither a Facebook user nor a member but I have no trouble looking at all those fabulous orchids :o
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Hope someone can find another way for us to see the orchid as the link only brings up the FaceBook joining screen ???
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Try it with this link: https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/75814_474841612577027_423887370_n.jpg
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Wim
Many, many thanks
The orchid is fabulous and better than any I have seen in the wild.
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Thanks wim.......wow!!!!!!
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Wim,
that is truly remarkable. What a beauty. Do they say where and when the photo was taken? Would be interesting, as it would give some idea as to habitat etc.
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This Dactylorhiza it is very beautiful and unusual !
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I agree. A real smasher. Waiting to see it on Ian's Bulb Log. ;D ;D ;D I see you have permission to copy and post the picture Mark.
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I have permission to share it
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Do they say where and when the photo was taken?
Farjestaden, Sweden
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This page is one reason to join Facebook. Become a friend of the page and turn down all requests from others
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it's the same with me....
I can only see the sign-up-form :'(
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This page is one reason to join Facebook. Become a friend of the page and turn down all requests from others
...and get pestered with notifications of someone wanting to add you as a friend!
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Did anyone watch the BBC Breakfast programme and the article on personal security.
If you still want to join FaceBook and Twitter then you do it knowing that there are real risks. It is the people you contact on FaceBook that could unwittingly give what appears innocent info about you, but subsequently can be used to build up your identity.
Email and the telphone are best :)
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It would seem a that a variety of ssp insularis, var bartonii is described as being very similar but that is only known from Spain.
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Mark, the picture you show is like Dactylorhiza sambucina. What I can see, the picture is taken in the wild, and in that area is growing D. sambucina.
They tend to be either yellow or red. The orchid in the picture has got a bit of both.
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Ulla the plant is D. sambucina yellow form
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D. sambucina is found on the island of Saarumaa in Estonia, guess where we are going this year? Yes you're right 5th June we shall be there. Can't wait.
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D. sambucina is found on the island of Saarumaa in Estonia, guess where we are going this year? Yes you're right 5th June we shall be there. Can't wait.
Sounds good, Shelagh.... are you also visiting your friend? http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=872.0 (http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=872.0)
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Did anyone watch the BBC Breakfast programme and the article on personal security.
If you still want to join FaceBook and Twitter then you do it knowing that there are real risks. It is the people you contact on FaceBook that could unwittingly give what appears innocent info about you, but subsequently can be used to build up your identity.
Email and the telphone are best :)
I don't do telephones either. Thank heavens for e-mail and snail-mail.
Facebook is Skynet in disguise. I suspect they already have factories somewhere building Terminators.
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That's an attractive orchid :D.
No facebook , no twitter, a mobile phone that is used very very occasionally for errrrrr.... phoning.
What's the membership rates for the Grumpy Old Man Club please?
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What's the membership rates for the Grumpy Old Man Club please?
I think it's free? What's more, they admit ladies. I've met some. ;D
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What's the membership rates for the Grumpy Old Man Club please?
Consider yourself a full member Fred. Ladies of course will have to join our sister group GOW ;D
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I think I'm a Vice President ;D
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Yes Maggi, we are spending 2 days on Hiiumaa island, 3 on Saarumaa and 2 in Tallinn renewing our memories of Tallinn Botanic Garden and seeing our friend Krista. The staff there kindly gave us an Orchid book published by the Estonian Orchid Club which shows in wonderful colour all the 36 orchids which are to be found mostly on the two islands, so we are hoping the camera will be red hot.
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Yes Maggi, we are spending 2 days on Hiiumaa island, 3 on Saarumaa and 2 in Tallinn renewing our memories of Tallinn Botanic Garden and seeing our friend Krista. The staff there kindly gave us an Orchid book published by the Estonian Orchid Club which shows in wonderful colour all the 36 orchids which are to be found mostly on the two islands, so we are hoping the camera will be red hot.
.... and so are WE, believe me! ;D
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Shelagh there is a specialist miniature conifer nursery in Tallin if my memory in correct. Many desirable plants
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Thanks for the info Mark but I'm afraid conifers aren't our thing.
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Farjestaden, Sweden
I think Färjestaden could be on the Swedish island Öland in the Baltic sea. However Färjestaden, the word actually means the place where you take the ferry so it can be anywhere.
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NOW i see!
That's a real wow-plant!
Unfortunately D. sambucina is difficult to cultivate (not so difficult to grow from seeds).
The plant shown is the hyperchromic form of yellow D. sambucina. Very rare! Very beautiful too. Would be interesting if they come true to seeds when being selfed.
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Hoy,
if you google Färjestaden, this is what you find:
Färjestaden is a locality situated in Mörbylånga Municipality, Kalmar County, Sweden with 5,018 inhabitants in 2010.[1] It is located in the southern part on the island of Öland and is named after the ferries that used to be the only connection to the mainland. Nowadays the impressive car-bridge Ölandsbron connects the mainland with the island, and Färjestaden has had an impressive population increase, making it several times bigger than the town Mörbylånga. ;) ;) ;)
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NOW i see!
That's a real wow-plant!
Unfortunately D. sambucina is difficult to cultivate (not so difficult to grow from seeds).
The plant shown is the hyperchromic form of yellow D. sambucina. Very rare! Very beautiful too. Would be interesting if they come true to seeds when being selfed.
You are correct, but Dact. sambucina is always bicoloured: In yellow flowers you would find more or less red pigments and ' vice versa ` !
An extraordinary beautiful plant ! , hopefully a long life clone......
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Gerhard are you hoping someone has brought it or its seed in to cultivation?
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Gerhard are you hoping someone has brought it or its seed in to cultivation?
On the pict it lookes like a wild plant. The greatest chance to get similar or same clones is to pollinate it self. The species has a high germination rate in vitro , but great looses starts after the first transtplanting. It isn`t easy to keep it a long time in cultivation. Don`t know if the finder has collected seeds ?!
In my area there are great populations, and it is possible to find sometimes nice plants with unusal colouration ....
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This variety of Dactylorhiza sambucina occured twice in Region called Silesia (Polish: Śląsk, German: Schlesien, Czech:Slezko ) in south-west Poland. As shown in my archive, the first reported by Fiek in 1895 from the area near city Bielawa (Germ.Langenbielau - 50°42′N 16°37′E).
For winwen and Gerhard - T.Schube noted: “mit gelblichen Perigon, aber trübpurpurner, schmal berandeter, gelblicher Lippe”.
Second time was found by Roman Rybski near city Kowary (Germ.Schmiedeberg im Riesengebirge - 50°47′30″N 15°50′0″E) in Sudetes Mountains on the begining of May 1986.
I know that R.Rybski and P.Baraniecki (formerly chairman of Polish Orchid Society “Orchis”) they were looking for populations of Dactylorhiza sambucina near Kowary in 2011, but not a single plant with this kind of colours was found. Also all plants I know from Sudetes, range Kaczawskie Mountains (Germ: Katzbachgebirge) near city Bolków (Germ: Bolkenhain 50°56′N 16°6′E) are red, yellow and pinkish as a result of intraspecific hybridization:
http://www.storczyki.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=52&Itemid=60 (http://www.storczyki.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=52&Itemid=60)
http://www.pts-orchis.pl/site,species,139.html (http://www.pts-orchis.pl/site,species,139.html)
Regards -
Kristof
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Welcome Kristof- and thank you for this information about this intriguing colour form of D. sambucina.
The two links you give are new to me, at least, and I thank you for those, also.
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Kristof good to 'see' you on here
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Unfortunately, the author is not given permission to show photograph from 1986. I can only introduce interesting variety found in 2011: sepals and petals purple, lip yellowish-white with purple marks. Photograped on 2 of May 2011 by P.Baraniecki in Sudetes Mountains near Kowary.
Kristof
Edit by maggi Adding the two photos for Kristof- click to enlarge....
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Kristof
I am happy to be wrong but that does not look like D. sambucina to me
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As a supplement - M.Fiedor, one of polish professional orchidologist (and the owner of the website, whose link - the first one, I presented last week) sent me today a couple of pictures from NE Czech Republic (still Silesia). Dactylorhiza sambucina photographed by Czech colleague E.Chmiel frome one side, where this kind of plants occurred since years. Only because orchid fans care well about this place and plants are under good protection, we can still enjoy them. No more information will be given about this place and I'm really very glad for given me a permission to show them here (Marek - thanks once again!!).
...does not look like D. sambucina to me
- but this is definitely this species.
Regards -
Kristof
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:o :o :o OM, Kristof
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That really blows me out of my socks, Kristof!
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Speechless
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As a supplement - M.Fiedor, one of polish professional orchidologist (and the owner of the website, whose link - the first one, I presented last week) sent me today a couple of pictures from NE Czech Republic (still Silesia). Dactylorhiza sambucina photographed by Czech colleague E.Chmiel frome one side, where this kind of plants occurred since years. Only because orchid fans care well about this place and plants are under good protection, we can still enjoy them. No more information will be given about this place and I'm really very glad for given me a permission to show them here (Marek - thanks once again!!). - but this is definitely this species.
Regards -
Kristof
What a great color form, the yellow and red one!!!!
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This colour form must be replicable so it's only a matter of time before seedlings appear?