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Specific Families and Genera => Gesneriaceae => Topic started by: Tony Willis on April 20, 2008, 05:05:57 PM
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I have a propagated a number of these all from Chen yi ,so probably wrongly named but still beautiful, to swap. I generally keep them frost free but have tried some in an unheated greenhouse and they have survived okay. Also a few European ramonda plants.Not looking for anything in particular but would prefer gesneriads so open to offers. Some examples shown below.
Chirita liboense chen yi
Chirita monantha
Chirita speciosa g37
Hemiaboae calveri
Petracodon delbeata g61
Tremacron aurantiaca
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All very yummy, especially 2 and 6 which has leaves that are sooooo Ramonda-like.
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Tony
The Tremacron looks to be correctly named, the first two look like Chirita but the rest I am not sure. Look at the Flora of China on the web. Are you sure the Hemiaboae is correctly spelt. I think it should be Hemiboae.
The Tremacron is thought to be hardy by Ray Drew but I have not found it to survive outside here in Aberdeen although it does (just) at least in our recent relatively mild winters in the cold frame,
Can you spare a leaf or so from the Hemiboae and the Petracodon? they look to be worth a try.
Brian Wilson Aberdeen
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Brian
the spelling is a typing error.
I have in fact left a tray of seedlings of chirita monantha outside all winter and they have survived. I only raised them to prove I could and so neglected them.
Another couple of species were in a cold greenhouse and survived okay but I have not tried any planted outside. Ray has quite different winter conditions to me, I think I am milder and much wetter.
Yes no problem on the spares and I will email you directly after the weekend. It is the Harrogate flower show tomorrow ands I am away walking in Scotland for the weekend,
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I'm with Lesley. They look superb. I tried a Trinidadian gesnerid I brought back last October but it damped off. I have a yellow flowered monocot which has flower buds, so that should be interesting? Wouldn't mind trying some of these hardier types in exchange for something you fancy Tony?
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Excellent plants, as you known, There are over 400 species own Gesneriaceae in China. A book named Plants of Gesneriaceae in China ，nice pictures for you confirm your babies name.
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A great shame (for me) that none of these lovely things is on our bio index and so we can't bring in seed, even if it is ever available. Just as well I'm not travelling to China for the Olympic Games, as I could be tempted to be very naughty! ;D ;D ;D
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That Tremacron aurantiaca is a real stunner...
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Dear Wim,
.....oooh no!!!!!
...it's got all its 'bits' hanging out,
(so undignified)
Giles
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2 and 5 are great, but #6 is a stunner. Wonderful display or intriguing flowers and great leaves. Never seen it before, nor likely to in a hurry again I'd imagine unfortunately. It is VERY nice. Well done in growing them so well!! 8)
Giles, sometimes having your "bits" hanging out can look quite effective!! ;) ;D
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Flower "bits" hanging out never really schocked me... I'm used to this fellow flowering in my garden every year (although there is not much hanging)
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As an EASILY shockable lady of advancing years, I'll keep right away from this conversation. I'm tempted though. ;)
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Dracunculus has the same sort of chock value as that Amorph. Never been a problem for me (the smell is more shocking than the exposed bits!! ;D)
I'm pleased to see you've resisted temptation Lesley..... but how long can that last? ;)
Back to the Gesneriads..... One thing I do like about that Tremacron aurantiaca is the exposed style and stamen etc. Gives a very different look. That and the strong yellow colour make it something I will certainly look out for in the future, if I can ever remember the name of course! ::) ;D
And finally.... out of interest, how long do Gesneriad seed stay viable for? Are they a very limited viability, or does it depend on the genus and species?
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Flower "bits" hanging out never really schocked me... I'm used to this fellow flowering in my garden every year (although there is not much hanging)
Good gracious. Is that hardy? Now there's a plant I must get! 8)
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Actually it is "hardy" ;D in Belgium. It comes up every year but it never flowers if you leave it outside for the winter. So the picture I showed you was of a plant in a pot.
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...and (for you US'ers) I just located--and ordered--the Tremacron aurantiaca from Plant Delights in North Carolina.
For now the gesneriads I grow (with the exception of Ramonda) are indoor plants. They do well in fish bowl windowsill culture. My favorite of the moment (well two actually--both blooming...) the impossibly small but stunning Sinningia concinna and its larger cousin S. 'Playful Porpoise'.
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Flower "bits" hanging out never really schocked me... I'm used to this fellow flowering in my garden every year (although there is not much hanging)
Good gracious. Is that hardy? Now there's a plant I must get! 8)
But what will you do with it Anthony? Tucked under your arm you could knock King 'enry orf 'is 'orse.
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Anthony,
It (Amorph rivieri AKA Amorph konjac) is fully hardy here, outside in the ground without hassles. I know in colder parts they just lift the tubers for their winter rest and store them in the basements until they start shooting in spring.
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One that is in flower for the first time. Its a bit odd for my taste
calcareoboea coccinea
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Oh no Tony, it's beautiful, if different. Super name too. :)
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I live in Russia. Zone 4. Chinese Gesneriaceae not hardy in the zone 4, but I select the most hardy seedlings from Corallodiscus lanuginosus and Corallodiscus kingianus. Corallodiscus lanuginosus has blossomed in 2011. I got a hybrid with Ramonda myconi. It is surprising that the Chinese and European plants made a successful hybrid. Now these hybrids is about 1 cm in diameter. In the spring I plan to plant them outdoors.
Unfortunately, I could not get it to bloom Tremacron aurantiaca. He died in a house in the winter. The reason - the excess moisture. It to me courtesy of Tony Willis. I am very grateful to him. Very sorry about the loss of this plant, as I had planned to get a hardy hybrid with yellow flowers.
Alex.
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Welcome Alex. Interesting to hear about your work with these plants. Hope to hear more. 8)
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Thank you Margaret! I hope you will forgive my awful English :)
Of course, I will continue to work on the selection of particular Hardy Gesneriaceae. On this occasion, I want to say that I am happy to buy seeds or leaf cuttings Briggsia aurantiaca and Tremacron aurantiaca.
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@Tony
Only these days I discovered this thread with your pictures of these wonderful gesneriads.
Chirita monantha is really a beauty and I have to admit, that it was my last thougt when I went to bed and the first one when I woke up. 8)
Unfortunatly I have no interesting gesneriads to swap, but if you would give a plant or a leaf away even so, I would pay for postage, packing and plant.
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Maya
yes I think I have a few things spare,I am away at the moment and I will email you early next week
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Tony
I guess I have to post in the 'I am so happy thread'! :D
I'm looking forward to your mail.
Maya
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Tony, if you have mature seeds after flowering Salcareoboea coccinea and Tremacron aurantiaca?
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A couple of poor pics of Tremacron aurantiaca shown 2 weeks ago at our meeting in Olinda by Viv Condon; I think she imported the plant from NZ!
cheers
fermi
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It is amazing and great. I have a weakness for such delicate plants. And the color of the corolla is unique! I hope that after flowering will seed.
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Wow, Fermi. That's a cracker!!
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Tremacron aurantiaca
Hello Tony Willis,
the China flower hawker do not have the ability handling of scientific names correctly,
your Tremacron aurantiaca
Tremacron aurantiaca
Tremacron aurantiacum
Tremacron aurantiacum K.Y.Pan is an unresolved name
http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl1.1/search?q=Tremacron+aurantiacum (http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl1.1/search?q=Tremacron+aurantiacum)
other Tremacron species in China :
Tremacron forrestii
Tremacron forrestii W. G. Craib is an accepted name
Tremacron mairei
Tremacron mairei (H. Lév.) W. G. Craib is an accepted name
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Hello Tony Willis,
the China flower hawker do not have the ability handling of scientific names correctly,
your chirita liboense
chirita liboense
Chirita liboensis
Chirita liboensis W.T.Wang & D.Y.Chen is a synonym of Primulina liboensis (W.T.Wang & D.Y.Chen) Mich.Möller & A.Weber
Primulina liboensis
Primulina liboensis (W.T.Wang & D.Y.Chen) Mich.Möller & A.Weber is an accepted name,
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Hello Tony Willis,
the China flower hawker do not have the ability handling of scientific names correctly,
your chirita speciosa
Chirita speciosa Kurz is a synonym of Henckelia speciosa (Kurz) D.J.Middleton & Mich.Möller,
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Hemiaboae calveri
Hello Tony Willis,
the China flower hawker do not have the ability handling of scientific names correctly,
your Hemiaboae calveri
No plant name records match your search criteria Hemiaboae.
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Petracodon delbeata g61
Hello Tony Willis,
the China flower hawker do not have the ability handling of scientific names correctly,
your Petracodon delbeata
No plant name records match your search criteria Petracodon.