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Title: Bulb Log 44 - 02/11/11/
Post by: Maggi Young on November 02, 2011, 04:33:16 PM
Log 44 of 2011 is online... http://www.srgc.org.uk/logs/logdir/2011Nov021320245163BULB_LOG_4411.pdf

I'm quite pleased that the BD has deigned to show a couple of my snowdrops...... I think he's coming round to them..... I've got quite fond of them myself  :o :o  ;D


I especially like the dainty little G. peshmenii... they have a delicate charm  and a pretty good scent, too.
Reginae-olgae is  existing in a pot but they won't do outside here.
Title: Re: Bulb Log 44 - 02/11/11/
Post by: Michael J Campbell on November 02, 2011, 05:09:54 PM
Careful Maggi,your catching the bug. :o :o :o
Title: Re: Bulb Log 44 - 02/11/11/
Post by: Maggi Young on November 02, 2011, 06:43:01 PM
I'm keeping it under check, Michael....  I get an anti-galanthus shot every year with my flu vaccination to keep the excesses of the infection at bay.  ;)
Title: Re: Bulb Log 44 - 02/11/11/
Post by: fleurbleue on November 02, 2011, 07:23:04 PM
I have not yet autumn flowering Galanthus  ::) I have to correct it !  ;D
Title: Re: Bulb Log 44 - 02/11/11/
Post by: Maggi Young on November 02, 2011, 07:42:16 PM
They are not exactly plentiful, Nicole.... they do not seem too easy to find  and they do not seem to like it very much in our garden, but they are very charming in a pot and so pretty at this time of year when they seem rather 'out of time'.
Title: Re: Bulb Log 44 - 02/11/11/
Post by: Lesley Cox on November 02, 2011, 08:06:16 PM
A wonderful way to distribute the seeds of Cardiocrinum, is to give a couple of dried stems to little boys who will use them in a "star wars" type (or maybe medieval) battle, not quite to the death, the seeds flying everywhere. Works well in a large garden. ;D

I have been cleaning Arisaema seeds between paper kitchen towels but newspaper would be better, much cheaper and unlimited. :D

I've not yet taken to sowing Crocus seed at depth (must try this year as I had a lot of C. longiflorus so can experiment) but I was sent 20 seeds of C. pelistericus from Marcus Harvey and bewcause of its water needs, put the sown pot in about 2cms of water along with pots of Pinguicula seed, all in a polystyene tray with no holes. No sign of the Pings but 18 of the crocus are up and flourishing.

I wish I had had my camera with me on Monday night when I was at a different-from-usual alpine meeting. A member there had a pot, maybe 8 or 9" across packed to the brim with Rhodohypoxis 'Kiwi Joy,' a double crimson, and in full flower. I have a small pot bought at the Trillium weekend so will take a pic of that today.
Title: Re: Bulb Log 44 - 02/11/11/
Post by: fleurbleue on November 02, 2011, 09:04:41 PM
I bought "Kiwi Boy" last spring, it was so cute  :D
Title: Re: Bulb Log 44 - 02/11/11/
Post by: tonyg on November 02, 2011, 09:26:05 PM
Two mystery crocus in one Log - must be a first!

The biflorus type is most likely ssp melantherus.  Autumn flowering with black anthers.

The other one ?pallasii .... well if it is pallasii it should have lots of narrow, grey green leaves.  I'm leaning towards Crocus serotinus here, leaves look likely to be wide(r than pallasii) and green(er).  The subtle feathering on the outers is something I have seen on some forms of C serotinus.  But all my Crocus serotinus finished flowering weeks ago  ???

Marvellous pollen shot by the way!
Title: Re: Bulb Log 44 - 02/11/11/
Post by: angie on November 02, 2011, 10:40:16 PM
Was just looking at my cardiocrinum giganteum today and wandering when the seed pods would open,  Ian to the rescue  ;D
Love the snowdrops, can't wait till the members start getting excited about these lovely little white gems. I really enjoying reading the galanthus posts.

Angie :)
Title: Re: Bulb Log 44 - 02/11/11/
Post by: David Nicholson on November 02, 2011, 11:01:47 PM
Cracking pollen shot Ian
Title: Re: Bulb Log 44 - 02/11/11/
Post by: Lesley Cox on November 03, 2011, 12:21:32 AM
I bought "Kiwi Boy" last spring, it was so cute  :D

All our Kiwi boys are cute Nicole. You only have to look at their legs to know that. ;D
Title: Re: Bulb Log 44 - 02/11/11/
Post by: fleurbleue on November 03, 2011, 08:31:23 AM
 ;D And Weldenia is still flowering...  :D
Title: Re: Bulb Log 44 - 02/11/11/
Post by: Maggi Young on November 03, 2011, 10:23:07 AM
Two mystery crocus in one Log - must be a first!

The biflorus type is most likely ssp melantherus.  Autumn flowering with black anthers.



Of course it is.... BD had a senior moment!  ;D
Title: Re: Bulb Log 44 - 02/11/11/
Post by: Lesley Cox on November 03, 2011, 08:09:48 PM
I'm so pleased Nicole. Weldenia must be the easiest plant to transfer to the other hemisphere with no ill effects. Glad it has done well for you. Mine are just emerging though I daresay Bill in Tauranga has in well into flower by now. ;D

Also pleased about C. biflorus ssp melantherus on the Bulb Log. I thought I must have another wrongly named, but no. :D We are allowed senior moments but the BD is NOT or we'll ALL be in trouble. :o ::)
Title: Re: Bulb Log 44 - 02/11/11/
Post by: Maggi Young on November 03, 2011, 08:41:16 PM
I don't mind if the BD has senior moments.... so long as he doesn't take up taxonomy.  ::)

And if he has a senior moment in Belgium and doesn't buy me a box of yummy Belgian Chocs when he's there this weekend then I'm changing the locks...... :-X
Title: Re: Bulb Log 44 - 02/11/11/
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on November 04, 2011, 10:58:38 AM
I don't mind if the BD has senior moments.... so long as he doesn't take up taxonomy.  ::)

And if he has a senior moment in Belgium and doesn't buy me a box of yummy Belgian Chocs when he's there this weekend then I'm changing the locks...... :-X

 :o :o :o
Title: Re: Bulb Log 44 - 02/11/11/
Post by: Janis Ruksans on November 11, 2011, 06:36:56 PM
Two mystery crocus in one Log - must be a first!

The biflorus type is most likely ssp melantherus.  Autumn flowering with black anthers.

The other one ?pallasii .... well if it is pallasii it should have lots of narrow, grey green leaves.  I'm leaning towards Crocus serotinus here, leaves look likely to be wide(r than pallasii) and green(er).  The subtle feathering on the outers is something I have seen on some forms of C serotinus.  But all my Crocus serotinus finished flowering weeks ago  ???

Marvellous pollen shot by the way!
I tend agree with Tony. Crocus of biflorus group seem to be C. melantherus. Subsp. pseudonubigena isn't earliest in spring, so it's blooming in autumn?
The next didn't look as pallasii. Pallasii stigma is distinctly trifid without fimbriate tips as on your picture. Without seeing of corm difficult to judge, but I more tend to serotinus, too. With me last serotinus finished around week ago.
Janis
Title: Re: Bulb Log 44 - 02/11/11/
Post by: Ian Y on November 11, 2011, 06:54:29 PM
Thank you Tony and Janis - I must say that I agree with you both on the Crocus identifications - it is easy when it is pointed out. I will amend the label accordingly and make a note to check the corm for confirmation.

The unusually mild weather is effecting the flowering times of a number of bulbs. The first Narcissus 'Cedric Morris' flower is open in the garden - the earliest we have ever flowered it -  and a number of Galanthus that we would not expect until after January have well developed buds already.

I have never known so many of our Crocus laevigatus to flower as early as they have this year. It will be interesting to see if some still flower through until February like they have in other years.

Title: Re: Bulb Log 44 - 02/11/11/
Post by: tonyg on November 11, 2011, 07:57:23 PM
I think many of these early flowers are due to last years early cold spell followed by a very hot spring.  Down here last winter started in November, harsh cold and plenty snow.  By February it was spring for many plants and bulbs, not spectacularly warm but much less cold than the preceding period.  A warmer, dry March was followed by an April heatwave, the best 'summer' weather we had until late autumn!  It's 6 months since April, so some plants are ready for the next spring early, before winter has begun!
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