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Re: "Fat Plants" : cacti,succulents, caudiciforms, whatever..
« Reply #390 on: June 07, 2011, 07:26:58 PM »
More cacti from my collection ...

Acanthocalycium aurantiacum
Lobivia marsonerii
Lobivia pampana
Hildewintera x Chamaecereus
Puna subterranae
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Re: "Fat Plants" : cacti,succulents, caudiciforms, whatever..
« Reply #391 on: June 07, 2011, 08:04:28 PM »
Chris ,

Sorry - but your Lobivia marsonerii is wrong named ....
It should be have a dark hymen ...your plant looks like a hybrid

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Re: "Fat Plants" : cacti,succulents, caudiciforms, whatever..
« Reply #392 on: June 07, 2011, 08:07:42 PM »
Chris ,
Sorry - but your Lobivia marsonerii is wrong named ....
It should be have a dark hymen ...your plant looks like a hybrid
Hans
Thank you Hans for this usefull remark. I grew it from seed some many years ago...Never paid attention to it ... 
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Re: "Fat Plants" : cacti,succulents, caudiciforms, whatever..
« Reply #393 on: June 07, 2011, 08:18:07 PM »
No problem !

I grow Lobivia,Rebutia + Aylostera since more than 30 years ....
Walter Rausch ,Ernst Markus,Willi Gertel,Rainer Wahl,Wolfgang Krahn are good friends of me  :D

I have visit the north of Argentina several times and it was possibly for me to see the most Lobivia in her habitats .

From Lob. marsonerii exist two types :
L. marsonerii
L. marsonerii var. iridescens

Nice to see your Acanthocalycium aurantiacum - I know it from the typ locality  ;D

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Re: "Fat Plants" : cacti,succulents, caudiciforms, whatever..
« Reply #394 on: June 07, 2011, 08:25:53 PM »
No problem !
I grow Lobivia,Rebutia + Aylostera since more than 30 years ....
Walter Rausch ,Ernst Markus,Willi Gertel,Rainer Wahl,Wolfgang Krahn are good friends of me  :D
I have visit the north of Argentina several times and it was possibly for me to see the most Lobivia in her habitats .
From Lob. marsonerii exist two types :
L. marsonerii
L. marsonerii var. iridescens
Nice to see your Acanthocalycium aurantiacum - I know it from the typ locality  ;D
Hans

Oh very impressive list Hans ! I grow cacti and succulents (mixed collection)since 1984. I have been in Chil /Argentina once (Patagonia). But the main target at that time are the many alpines ...We travel more in the south and we only find some Pterocactus , Austrocactus ...
Some are maybe  not identified correctly ? Maybe you know some specialists on this matter ?
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Re: "Fat Plants" : cacti,succulents, caudiciforms, whatever..
« Reply #395 on: June 07, 2011, 08:38:22 PM »
From Lob. marsonerii exist two types :
L. marsonerii
L. marsonerii var. iridescens
Hans

Hans , doublechecked my original order (always kept my originals !) Bought it (seeds)as marsonerii subsp. grandiflora from our famous Belgian nursery.
I think you must know the name " Gebroeders Deherdt " ?
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Re: "Fat Plants" : cacti,succulents, caudiciforms, whatever..
« Reply #396 on: June 07, 2011, 08:47:53 PM »
I have visit only one time Patagonia ( Perrito Moreno ) and in Bolivia I was only by foot ( near the border of Argentina ) ;D
In the south we have not found only one Cactus ...I think we was in the wrong time  :-\

Sorry but I can not help you with Pterocactus and Austrocactus - maybe you could look on the DKG website ...there is now also a forum .
In the KuaS are sometimes articels about this plants ...but I have really no interest for them .

In earlier times I have also collect Sulcorebutia ...but after a fire in my greenhouse in year 1992 I have lost all my cacti and I have start it again - after this I have not collect more Sulcorebutia .

To the nomenclature from Hunt ....it is a big waste and many of my friends have never accept it ( like me too ) ...now after many years and DNA research is it clear that it is wrong !

It is not so complicatet :
Sulcorebutia is only in Bolivia !

Rebutia ( in sensu Schuhmann ) is only in Argentina ( exept R.padcayensis which grow in Bolivia )
I have seen near all Rebutia in habitat:
R.minuscula
R.senilis
R.margarethae
R.xanthocarpa
R.fabrisii
R.wessneriana ( + R.beryllioides )
R.krainziana

To field researchers :
I forgot Alfred Lau , Jörg Piltz ,Dietrich Herzog,Heinz Swoboda,Ernst Zecher.....

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Re: "Fat Plants" : cacti,succulents, caudiciforms, whatever..
« Reply #397 on: June 07, 2011, 08:52:55 PM »
From Lob. marsonerii exist two types :
L. marsonerii
L. marsonerii var. iridescens
Hans

Hans , doublechecked my original order (always kept my originals !) Bought it (seeds)as marsonerii subsp. grandiflora from our famous Belgian nursery.
I think you must know the name " Gebroeders Deherdt " ?

Yes Chris ,

This name ( L.marsoneri ssp. grandiflora ) is only a product of phantasia !!!
I know De Herdt well ...I have there also in earlier times ordered seeds ...later we had with this plants always troubles with the ID ...I think they had a lot of butterflies as pollinators  ;D
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Re: "Fat Plants" : cacti,succulents, caudiciforms, whatever..
« Reply #398 on: June 07, 2011, 09:03:53 PM »
Many thanks Hans for your explanation ! Make a new label , something like "affinis marsoneri " or  "x marsoneri" is maybe better. 
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Re: "Fat Plants" : cacti,succulents, caudiciforms, whatever..
« Reply #399 on: June 07, 2011, 09:12:11 PM »
Chris ,

If I find time so I will post some pictures of L.marsonerii ( sorry flowers are finished ) -my plants came all from well defined material .

Your plant is shure a hybrid ( without any genes of L.marsoneri ) ....please look for the small offsets ...also wrong are the spines ...and the flower is complete wrong

Do you know Mats Nilson ( now Winberg ) from Sweden ?
He has a good nursery and sells also seeds

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Re: "Fat Plants" : cacti,succulents, caudiciforms, whatever..
« Reply #400 on: June 07, 2011, 09:20:16 PM »
Chris ,
Do you know Mats Nilson ( now Winberg ) from Sweden ?
He has a good nursery and sells also seeds
Hans

Oh yes I know Mats ! Many years ago I ordered some seeds overthere ....I have still many cacti with the "MW" -abbreviation on the back of the label.....
But thanks for the information anyway !
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Re: "Fat Plants" : cacti,succulents, caudiciforms, whatever..
« Reply #401 on: June 07, 2011, 09:26:04 PM »
and now for something completely different


Echinocereus baileyi
Echinocereus pectinatus subsp. rigidissimus
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Re: "Fat Plants" : cacti,succulents, caudiciforms, whatever..
« Reply #402 on: June 07, 2011, 09:43:40 PM »
Chris ,
Do you know Mats Nilson ( now Winberg ) from Sweden ?
He has a good nursery and sells also seeds
Hans

Oh yes I know Mats ! Many years ago I ordered some seeds overthere ....I have still many cacti with the "MW" -abbreviation on the back of the label.....
But thanks for the information anyway !

The Cacti world is also small !
I know Mats from earlier times - we made our travels in similar times and swapped often informations .
Please look on his website -there are pictures of L.marsonerii

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Re: "Fat Plants" : cacti,succulents, caudiciforms, whatever..
« Reply #403 on: June 07, 2011, 09:58:14 PM »
The Cacti world is also small !
I know Mats from earlier times - we made our travels in similar times and swapped often informations .
Please look on his website -there are pictures of L.marsonerii
Hans

Everything even more clear now ! Now I see his pictures I am even more convinced !
Hans , did you ever visit the "ELK" ?
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Re: "Fat Plants" : cacti,succulents, caudiciforms, whatever..
« Reply #404 on: June 08, 2011, 04:17:21 AM »
Some of the smaller Mammillaria's are flowering here ...
Also M. herrerae .

This is my favourite of this group, for the flower colour and spines..
Many beauties posted lately by everyone!

 


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