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Bulbs => NARCISSUS => Topic started by: Gerdk on March 02, 2021, 04:59:26 PM
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Narcissus cyclamineus -
in flower since about 2 weeks
Gerd
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Having seen the lovely cyclamineus posted here I decided I had to get some and a lovely parcel arrived today from Twelve Nunns with 4 pots beautifully packed in hessian jackets;
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I'm keeping one potful on my desk for the moment to I can enjoy it in close up while working. They have a strange musty scent.
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Very nicely presented package from Twelve Nunns (https://www.twelvenunns.co.uk), Gail.
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Yes, I was thinking they would may a lovely gift for someone, although in this case myself!
Thank you for rotating my photos again.
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Good point Gail - with such neat packaging, they'd make a lovely gift - I think Twelve Nunns are well-known for that lovely hessian covering to keep all the soil and grit safe.
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Having seen the lovely cyclamineus posted here I decided I had to get some and a lovely parcel arrived today from Twelve Nunns with 4 pots beautifully packed in hessian jackets;
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I'm keeping one potful on my desk for the moment to I can enjoy it in close up while working. They have a strange musty scent.
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So cute - would make a great Mother's Day gift :D
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The efforts to create different forms of x susannae-type (triandrus x cantabricus) narcissi have come to fruition this year with many of the seedlings flowering for the first time. The first to flower are:
AW 4490 Narcissus triandrus pallidulus (I think) x eualbidus sown 2015, 8 clones
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AW 4490 - 8 clones multi.
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AW 4490 - 8 clones rule
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AW 4504 Narcissus triandrus triandrus x eualbidus sown 2015, 2 clones
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AW 4897 Narcissus iohannis x cantabricus laciniatus sown 2017, 5 clones
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I just HAD to change your photos to showing large size, Anne : I just LOVE these hybrids - Ian had to make our own N. x susannae plants too - and I think they are my all time favourites.
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Narcissus tazetta 'Autumn Colors' from Bill Welch seed sown in 2014. Second year of flowering here in East Auckland. Third photo was the afternoon of the same day as the first two.
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Anne,
Glorious variety with your triandrus x cantabricus crosses!
Difficult to choose which is best.
Gerd
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Narcissus moschatus [or Narcissus pseudonarcissus subsp. moschatus?].
Can anyone get seed set on this?
Chad
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AW 4897 Narcissus iohannis x cantabricus laciniatus sown 2017, 5 clones
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They're all very nice, where was found cantabricus laciniatus?
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Here are some of my N. cyclamineus. They are among my top 10 bulbs for the garden.
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...and a pretty little cyclamineus hybrid.
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They're all very nice, where was found cantabricus laciniatus?
It was a gift from a Croconut!
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Here are some of my N. cyclamineus. They are among my top 10 bulbs for the garden.
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...and a pretty little cyclamineus hybrid.
Beautiful - I have yet to find a place in my garden where they are happy.
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More portraits of our miniatures, taken last week. Struggling to keep up now!
2817 N.calcicola x cyclamineus
AW 3525-3-16 (F2 from Little Spell x KB/M/1/98 (Keira hybrid)) A very old-fashioned looking flower, which is why I like it - not an exhibition flower.
N asturiensis single clone
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Gale Force
Jeanine - I can find no record of this being registered or who it came from - if you can tell me please do!
Narcissus KB-M-16-02 (Keira hybrid)
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Narcissus KS-M-1-2007 (Keira hybrid)
Lemon Breeze
Little Racer
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Minionette
Mitimoto (bicolour hoop)
Sleek
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Narcissus confusus (thx to Rafa to confirm id) ex. north of Spain
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Anne you're little mini's are adorable. It looks like you use a lot of cyclamineus in your breeding for that lovely swept back look.
Jan
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Today I went for a walk in some woods near us. Narcissus pseudonarcissus (probably an introduced population) was in flower and looking very beautiful.
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Some closeups show the variation in the population, which was clearly self seeding.
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Narcissus 'Canaliculatus' flowers reliably here in Cornwall.
Once its leaves have died down this area is mown regularly until next spring.
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Very pretty Chad. This one doesn't survive for me here, I think it may be a little too cold.
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I was given this pretty little cyclamineus hybrid this spring - he nicknamed it 'Don's Daff'. I don't have the official name, if it has one.
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Narcissus asturiensis
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I was given this pretty little cyclamineus hybrid this spring - he nicknamed it 'Don's Daff'. I don't have the official name, if it has one.
Nice looking daffies. You N. asturiensis is holding itself very upright.
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Some photos from SRGC friend Frankie Wulleman of the VRV of "Yellow fever, Narcissus pseudonarcissus in habitat" in the Belgian area of Yvoir
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next batch from Frankie.....
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last set from this lovely area of Belgium
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Thanks, Frankie!
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A fantastic place - there is a little joy with all the restrictions of Covid-19...
All narcissus cultivars are honored, but the wild form is still my number one!
Thanks to Maggi and Frankie for showing!
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I have got this Narcissus from wild seeds from Morocco (1998) with the name Narcissus bulbocodium ssp romieuxii. The flower is bigger then my other Narcissus bulbocodium and the anthers are different. Is this some crossing or what?
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I have got this Narcissus from wild seeds from Morocco (1998) with the name Narcissus bulbocodium ssp romieuxii. The flower is bigger then my other Narcissus bulbocodium and the anthers are different. Is this some crossing or what?
Narcissus bulbocodium and Narcissus romieuxii are sonsidered as different species. According my experience N. romieuxii does not survive outdours here. I guess your plants are some variety of bulbocodium.
I do not know much about the shape and hardiness of hybrids of the two species mentioned.
Perhaps Ian knows more!
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Narcissus bulbocodium and Narcissus romieuxii are sonsidered as different species. According my experience N. romieuxii does not survive outdours here. I guess your plants are some variety of bulbocodium.
I do not know much about the shape and hardiness of hybrids of the two species mentioned.
Perhaps Ian knows more!
Thank you Gerd.
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Yes I would remove the suggestion of romieuxii all that I can see in the flowers and the leaves are in line with it being a bulbocodium.
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Yes I would remove the suggestion of romieuxii all that I can see in the flowers and the leaves are in line with it being a bulbocodium.
Thank you Ian, what about the difference in anthers?
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Narcissus bulbocodium is a variable species- and also rather promiscuous, so hybrid action may be in play.
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A Narcissus which has increased to five flowers over a 15 year period. Has anyone an idea of the name?
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More narcissus photos from Anne Wright's collection .....
'Andy Blanchard' x 2
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AW 2655-1-10 x 2
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three of AW 2658-2
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two images of AW 2813-2-14 a tiny cyclamineus hybrid in palest lemon with a diamond sparkle
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Two images of AW 2827-1
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two of AW 2972-6-15 N. triandrus x Second Fiddle
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AW 2972-8-15.
two of AW 2991-2 Tiny flowers with a tendency for extra petals - the relatively long stems make it a charming cut flower
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three of AW 3101-1-16 Candlepower x Snook
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three images of AW 3110-1-15
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AW 3110-3-15 below AW 3110-1-15 above
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AW 4216 mixed seedlings triandrus x cantabricus petunioides
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AW 4216-2-18 selected triandrus x cantabricus petunioides
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AW 4216-3-18 selected triandrus x cantabricus petunioides
two of AW 3267-1-16
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AW 3509-A Triandrus x assoanus
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AW 4895
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three of 'Citron Baby'
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two of 'Coo'
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Two of 'Dormouse'
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'Giselle'
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'Jim Lad'
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two of N hedreanthus luteolentus
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N rupicola 'Re-entry' group showing variation in cup form
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N rupicola selected form ('Re-entry')
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three of N. cuatrecasasii
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two of N. provincialis
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three of N. 'Ectandrus'
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two of N. x fosteri
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two of 'Peach Twist'
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two of 'Propeller Group'
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Selected form of N. rupicola
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two of 'Sweet Petite'
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last for now....
two of Vitrina (nivalis x triandrus)
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and two of 'Whippet'
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Thanks, Anne!
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No - thanks MAGGI!
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'Greenstart'
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N. bulbocodium 'Oxford Gold' in the lawn. These were planted last year, we'll see if they persist.
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'W.P. Milner'. A recent acquisition, I can't think why I never planted it before, it's a beatuiful little daff.
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N. moschatus. I love this one but it is getting congested - I opened the clump up a little last year but some more vigorous splitting is needed methinks.
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Close-up of 'Oxford Gold'
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The triandrus hybrids are coming now. This is 'Petrel' which is one of my favourites.
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'Jetfire' is still going strong and has made some large clumps down the bottom of the garden. This area is rather wet but it seems to do better here, perhaps the Narcissus fly don't like wet soil?
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This N. bulbocodium is a survivor from when this area was a rockery. It seems quite happy here, so I have left it.
Lastly here are a couple of nice daffs that have appeared, and I suppose must be spontaneous cyclamineus x moschatus crosses, as I don't recall planting them there.
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Would that we could get N. triandrus cultivars, N. moschatus and 'W.P.Milner' naturalising here! I wonder if the fact they are in grass is the answer to your success?
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The triandrus hybrids don't seem to increase massively, but nor do they go backwards. Probably if I fed them a bit they might bulk up a bit more, but I quite like the more slender, wild appearance you get when cultivars are grown unfertilized. I have had 'Petrel', 'Pipit', 'Thalia' and 'Rippling Waters' for years (still can't tell the difference between the last two but they are both lovely).
We'll see about W.P. Milner but it seems to be more or less straight pseudonarcissus so I'm fairly hopeful. I'm opening up a woodsy area of the garden and planting it up with suitable plants.
N. moschatus I find easy in leafy thin grass (actually more leaf than grass) at the base of a goat willow. I'd have thought it would suit your conditions Maggi? Again it doesn't increase much vegetatively though. I reckon it's been there 15 years and I have maybe 3x as many bulbs as when I planted them. More like a snowdrop than a daff!
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I suppose the other point about my conditions is that our soil is quite thin and dusty, so it dries out readily in summer, especially under grass and / or trees. I think that's probably a good thing for many summer dormant bulbs of a Mediterranean bent, so long as they don't need a real baking. Tulips seem to do well here for example, even though 1000ft up a Welsh hill with more than 1000mm of rainfall annually doesn't immediately sound like tulip country!
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Anyone else finding that the very earliest flowering Narcissus (for me it was Narcissus romieuxii in January) are already showing yellowing leaves?
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They do look at home in the grass, don't they?