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Re: Crocus to identify? Post them here....
« Reply #255 on: March 08, 2010, 09:05:57 PM »
Helen, thanks.
center and style, anthers yellowish with black tipped lobes -> "Snow Bunting".  ;)
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Re: Crocus to identify? Post them here....
« Reply #256 on: March 08, 2010, 09:13:07 PM »
Thanks Armin  ;D
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« Reply #257 on: March 08, 2010, 09:29:36 PM »
Well even tulips flower exceptionally well here and also with friends who live north of Auckland. They get no cold at all - ever. Not a single frost in 30 years!
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« Reply #258 on: March 08, 2010, 09:51:43 PM »
You probably live in the perfect climate for growing just about anything.
Do you have any Gallica or Alba roses?
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« Reply #259 on: March 08, 2010, 11:06:48 PM »
I don't grow them myself Helen, but there are heaps around Dunedin and the whole country. The Heritage Rose Society probably has a good website but I haven't been there. I believe Pat Toolan who is a Forumist in South Australia and grows stunning onco irises, is involved with Heritage Roses.

I'm finding that docks, sorrel, ragwort, creeping thistle (won't call it Californian in case I offend those from there), cleavers, blackberry, Euphorbia lathyris and a hundred other weeds are doing exceptionally well at present, in spite of a lack of rain. So yes, just about anything will grow in New Zealand, in some part of it anyway. My sister who lives in Tauranga has a good avocado tree and has cymbidiums under her trees. And she's NOT a gardener. They just grow anyway, like Topsy.
« Last Edit: March 08, 2010, 11:11:19 PM by Lesley Cox »
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« Reply #260 on: March 11, 2010, 10:11:37 PM »
I saw this in a garden today. Anyone know what it is?
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« Reply #261 on: March 12, 2010, 10:31:18 AM »
Crocus etruscus
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« Reply #262 on: March 12, 2010, 10:39:26 AM »
Lesley, Sam McGredy the rose breeder from Portadown in Ireland went to NZ and was breeding roses over there. Do you know anything of him or have you herd of him.?

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« Reply #263 on: March 12, 2010, 11:10:29 AM »
Thanks Thomas. I will let the grower know.
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« Reply #264 on: March 12, 2010, 01:06:42 PM »
Hi These crocus came as C. corsicus but they look the same or very similar to what i have growing as C. imperati  'de Jagar' but the C. corsicus  are larger. 

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« Reply #265 on: March 12, 2010, 07:50:45 PM »
Rimmer - you have definitely got Crocus imperati there.  Yellow throat, very yellow looking outer ground colour.  It might be a different clone or perhaps the corms have been nursery grown before you got them.  They can seem more vigorous (bigger) the first year.  At least the value is similar ... so often the wrong 'un is a cheap one!

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« Reply #266 on: March 13, 2010, 12:57:39 AM »
Thanks Tony, i got them in 2007 but they got starved and this is their first year to bloom, so much for specialist nurserys...

The attached photo is of a crocus i got last fall as C. scepusinensis leucostigma,  i find nothing on this crocus can someone confirm and provide some culture information

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« Reply #267 on: March 13, 2010, 06:22:53 AM »
  Hi to everybody,
Can anybody tell what is the difference of Chrysanthus Uschak than standart Chrysanthus? I think that is just a cultivar name of a selected form of chrysanthus from Uşak (or Uschak in English)! Last week I have visited surrounding Uşak. I have seen lots of C. chrysanthus, C. fleischeri and C. flavus dissectus.
Here are some forms. They all have black lobes and red style only a few I have seen full orange but they were also mixed with red style.



Just returned from marvellous trip with excellent discoveries in Turkey and more will report later. Now I'm making quick view of entries.

cv. 'Uschak Orange' was selected by van Tubergen company in seventies of last century (not remember date). Here it was the brightest yellow and the earliest of chrysanthus known to me at that time. It had deep orange stigmatic branches, well reproduce itself from seeds. I think that true UO was the clone from surroundings of Uşak, but later Michael Hoog sent me under that name another with yellow stigmatic branches. I would prefair that the first form could be kept as cv. 'UO'. All others from this district must be regarded as C. chrysanthus from Uşak.

Problem with chrysanthus is the great variability of chromosome number from 2n=8 to 2n=20 (Uschak Orange is 2n=20). It is the main reason why in some places it hybridise with biflorus, but in most cases - not. Really I suppose that there could be several species indistinguishable by flower and other features. Just during my last trip I thought that there would be excellent thesis for doctorage - researches on DNA variability throughout the range and populations of chrysanthus. If I would be only 40...

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« Reply #268 on: March 13, 2010, 06:26:56 AM »
Mark, your first plant is clearly 'Snowbunting' - see the yellow groundcolour of the outer petals and the long stripes.
White Beatuy has pure white groundcolour and much shorter stripes.

The second one isn't a cultivar - at least I don't know of one looking like your plant. Perhaps it's a seedling.

Ibrahim, are you sure, the flavus with the short style are ssp dissectus?
This ssp is separated by its long, multiple devided style.

Thomas,
A lot of dissectus has dissected but short branches sometimes even below the tips of anthers.
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« Reply #269 on: March 13, 2010, 06:28:34 AM »
Thomas your study on cultivars is great!
I want to attache some more from same region.
 C. flavus dissectus; some of them have very short style like standart flavus but the size of flowers and many narrow leaves are more helpfull to identify.
 C. fleischeri; is a common plant averywhere in this species the corm was very interesting for me. I am not sure if is this normal! I just tryed to make a photo of corm for my archives. First one lies on its side, second also, third one has stalon and the last two have up right coms!

Many thanks for picture of stoloniferous fleischeri. Never saw such, but such is mentioned in Brian Mathews Monograph.
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