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Re: Crocus to identify? Post them here....
« Reply #150 on: February 10, 2010, 10:22:55 AM »
 ;) Thanks Thomas. I know I have been bitten by that kind of 'commercial selection' before and did have the nonflowering, but quickly increasing C.kotschyanus for a while. Does anyone else have experience with 'commercial forms' that want to take over the world by both seed and corm- like the C.cartwrightianus and C.cancellatus mazziaricus I mentioned?
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« Reply #151 on: February 10, 2010, 10:44:13 AM »
I've never had this experience with crocus but I have with Chionodoxa. In a few weeks my garden will look like a Turkish hillside. I am convinced that every seed produces a flowering-size bulb within a year & subsequently increases vegetatively at the same rate. A very pretty weed. 
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Re: Crocus to identify? Post them here....
« Reply #152 on: February 10, 2010, 10:51:40 AM »
;) Thanks Thomas. I know I have been bitten by that kind of 'commercial selection' before and did have the nonflowering, but quickly increasing C.kotschyanus for a while. Does anyone else have experience with 'commercial forms' that want to take over the world by both seed and corm- like the C.cartwrightianus and C.cancellatus mazziaricus I mentioned?

I have three pots of Crocus kotschyanus with corms the size of onions (well nearly!). I bought the originals in 2007 and they flowered once and haven't performed since. They are heading for the bin.
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Re: Crocus to identify? Post them here....
« Reply #153 on: February 10, 2010, 11:31:59 AM »
Can somebody tell me where Labranda in Turkey is, please. Putting it into Google Earth,does not produce an answer.
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Re: Crocus to identify? Post them here....
« Reply #154 on: February 10, 2010, 11:56:36 AM »
Jim I think it's also spelled Labraunda, in Muğla Province, SW Turkey.  Those who know the area may comment further.
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Re: Crocus to identify? Post them here....
« Reply #155 on: February 10, 2010, 12:45:11 PM »
I have three pots of Crocus kotschyanus with corms the size of onions (well nearly!). I bought the originals in 2007 and they flowered once and haven't performed since. They are heading for the bin.
Save the as mouse bait, David. They can be sacrificial lambs  ;)
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« Reply #156 on: February 10, 2010, 01:16:08 PM »
I have three pots of Crocus kotschyanus with corms the size of onions (well nearly!). I bought the originals in 2007 and they flowered once and haven't performed since. They are heading for the bin.
Save the as mouse bait, David. They can be sacrificial lambs  ;)

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Re: Crocus to identify? Post them here....
« Reply #157 on: February 10, 2010, 05:04:54 PM »
Can somebody tell me where Labranda in Turkey is, please. Putting it into Google Earth,does not produce an answer.

Labranda, which is the holy area of Zeus Labraundeus, is in ancient Caria (Southwestern Anatolia), 13 kms northeast of Milas (Mylasa), the city to which it is affiliated. The site is famous with its Temple of Zeus, its delicious water, and its pine and plane tree forests. There are daily tours to Labranda from Bodrum as well which is about 1 hr away.
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Re: Crocus to identify? Post them here....
« Reply #158 on: February 10, 2010, 08:18:04 PM »
I have three pots of Crocus kotschyanus with corms the size of onions (well nearly!). I bought the originals in 2007 and they flowered once and haven't performed since. They are heading for the bin.
Save the as mouse bait, David. They can be sacrificial lambs  ;)

 ;D ;D

Quite seriously David. If mice eat crocus corms, better that they eat poor ones than the better forms when baiting your traps. Fortunately NZ mice don't seem to have acquired the taste. I've never heard of it happening here. :D
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Re: Crocus to identify? Post them here....
« Reply #159 on: February 10, 2010, 09:01:26 PM »
Can somebody tell me where Labranda in Turkey is, please. Putting it into Google Earth,does not produce an answer.

Labranda, which is the holy area of Zeus Labraundeus, is in ancient Caria (Southwestern Anatolia), 13 kms northeast of Milas (Mylasa), the city to which it is affiliated. The site is famous with its Temple of Zeus, its delicious water, and its pine and plane tree forests. There are daily tours to Labranda from Bodrum as well which is about 1 hr away.
Hendrik

Hendrik forgot to mention the several quarries in the area and the enormous number of lorries which have reduced the approach road to a state where it has one foot deep ruts which shake the car to pieces and make you glad its a hire car and not your own. It is where Crocus nerimaniae was originally described from.
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Re: Crocus to identify? Post them here....
« Reply #160 on: February 10, 2010, 09:48:32 PM »
;) Thanks Thomas. I know I have been bitten by that kind of 'commercial selection' before and did have the nonflowering, but quickly increasing C.kotschyanus for a while. Does anyone else have experience with 'commercial forms' that want to take over the world by both seed and corm- like the C.cartwrightianus and C.cancellatus mazziaricus I mentioned?
Crocus pulchellus is gradually spreading through my garden by seed spread by ants.  It also increases by division.  I think i got it originally as a few corms at a Discussion weekend but do not know its origin.  The crocuses in the garden came from seed and/or cormlets in old potting compost.  It flowers very well . I have posted pictures of it flowering in October.
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« Reply #161 on: February 10, 2010, 09:59:00 PM »
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Re: Crocus to identify? Post them here....
« Reply #162 on: February 13, 2010, 05:31:25 PM »
Does anyone have any ideas on this one? Could it be my 'lost' Crocus adanensis?
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Re: Crocus to identify? Post them here....
« Reply #163 on: February 13, 2010, 08:47:46 PM »
Simon,
a very beautiful crocus. I checked my C. adanensis reference pictures but unfortunately none are matching :o

In the first view I thought of a form of C. abantensis but your sample leaves are much broader then typical and the whitish anthers and the black bottom inner markings confuse me.
Maybe it is a nice C. biflorus ssp. (adami) hybrid? :-\
As usual only a picture of the corm could give us more hints...
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Re: Crocus to identify? Post them here....
« Reply #164 on: February 13, 2010, 08:49:56 PM »
Does anyone have any ideas on this one? Could it be my 'lost' Crocus adanensis?

It isn't Crocus adanensis (see attached picture). What is the corm tunic?
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