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General Subjects => Flowers and Foliage Now => Topic started by: Catwheazle on September 04, 2023, 01:53:48 PM
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The first Colchicum autumnale appears in September. Cyclamen europaum (among the Cornus mas) and Gentiana asklepiadea are beginning to fade and from the Ophrys a curious holosericea is joining the party.
Greetings from the Allgäu / Bavaria
Bernd
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Hi Catwheazle,,
Do you have any suggestions on sourcing the Cyclamen europaum ?
Lovely pictures!
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Hi Marc,
i bougt it there: http://www.alpengarten-suendermann.de/index.php
years ago....
Bernd
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Brend,
Thank you
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We have this Campsis radicans since more than 40 years, but never had so many flowers
and seedpods on it. The outstanding hot summer is probably the reason for this.
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We have this Campsis radicans since more than 40 years, but never had so many flowers
and seedpods on it. The outstanding hot summer is probably the reason for this.
my word, the seedpods are a interesting as the flowers- I don't think I've ever seen those in reaal life.
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Do you have any suggestions on sourcing the Cyclamen europaum ?
C europeum is a synonym for C purpurascens.
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Yes, that's right. Sorry, I still used the outdated name :-(
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We have this Campsis radicans since more than 40 years, but never had so many flowers
and seedpods on it. The outstanding hot summer is probably the reason for this.
Yes, the hotter climate causes a lot of different experiences! For decades I was able to grow tomatoes and runner beans true from self-harvested seed, but they are producing a puzzling range of hybrids nowadays.
Also a hybrid, maybe Arum italicum ´Pamela Harper´ x A. maculatum, white Cyclamen hederifolium in the background.
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A surprisingly hardy Arum concinnatum.
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Hylotelephiums are the stalwarts of the month, together with Salpiglossis sinuata and Phlox paniculata ´Marjellchen´in the foreground.
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Another Salpiglossis sinuata with Aichryson in the background, both flowering for a very long time.
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A recently bought Roscoea purpurea ´Paul Bygrave´s hybrids´.
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Closer.
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Mariette,
Great color! Yours are a much deeper red than mine.
I will look for more seeds on the exchanges.
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A recently bought Roscoea purpurea ´Paul Bygrove´s hybrids´.
Mariette, very beautiful Roscoea! I found mine in Hessenhof in Ede (Netherlands) but with the name Roscoea purpurea ´Paul Bygrave´s hybrids' https://www.srgc.org.uk/forum/index.php?topic=19338.0
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Thank You, Marc and Herman!
Marc, a more experienced grower of roscoea in Austria told me, that his R. purpurea never produced ripe seed, unlike other species of roscoea, perhaps due to the late flowering? The few years I grow ´Red Gurkha´ and two of the ´Royal Purple Strain´ I wasn´t able to collect seed, either. Perhaps one should cultivate these plants in a greenhouse to gain seed in this part of the world? Of course it would be great if You could offer seed of this species!
Herman, You´re perfectly right, it´s Bygrave and not Bygrove - perhaps that the beauty of the plant didn´t want me to think of a grave? My plant is from the same source, it was a lucky dip when we visited De Hessenhof in July. It was chosen due to the red stems and 4 sprouts. Unlike Hans Kramer states, ´Red Gurkha´doubles each year with me, whereas the two ´Royal Purple Strain´plants bought there never grew on. Are You able to gain seed from Roscoea purpurea?
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Thank You, Marc and Herman!
Marc, a more experienced grower of roscoea in Austria told me, that his R. purpurea never produced ripe seed, unlike other species of roscoea, perhaps due to the late flowering? The few years I grow ´Red Gurkha´ and two of the ´Royal Purple Strain´ I wasn´t able to collect seed, either. Perhaps one should cultivate these plants in a greenhouse to gain seed in this part of the world? Of course it would be great if You could offer seed of this species!
Herman, You´re perfectly right, it´s Bygrave and not Bygrove - perhaps the the beauty of the plant didn´t want me to think of a grave? My plant is from the same source, it was a lucky dip when we visited De Hessenhof in July. It was chosen due to the red stems and 4 sprouts. Unlike Hans Kramer states, ´Red Gurkha´doubles each year with me, whereas the two ´Royal Purple Strain´plants bought there never grew on. Are You able to gain seed from Roscoea purpurea?
Mariette, I only collect seeds on demand. In the past I have collected seeds from Roscoea purpurea 'Vannin' HWJK 2406 which flowers much later. From 'Red Gurkha' I looked for seeds last year but couldn't find any. It is certainly not very fertile. I will keep an eye on Roscoea purpurea for seeds this year as I remove the stems in late fall.
Hans Kramer had a lot of seedlings of Roscoea purpurea 'Paul Bygrave's hybrids', so I think that plant is very fertile.
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Thank You Herman! It´s interesting to learn that You were able to harvest seed from Roscoea purpurea at least once. I trust it was from a plant in the border?
As far as I understand what Hans Kramer wrote concerning Paul Bygrave´s hybrids, they result from a deliberate cross of ´Red Gurkha´with the ´Royal Purple Strain´. Therefore, the seedlings are all a bit different, plainly to be seen by the ones You bought, as well as with the seedlings of ´Royal Purple Strain´. Most likely, they will not be grown from one of these crosses, but the hybridisation of the two repeated every year or so. As Forde Abbey sell seeds, too, seed of Paul Bygrave´s hybrids may be available there and Hans Kramers plants are grown from that source.
As Marc was so kind and generous to offer to buy seeds of trillium species of interest and donate them to the seed exchange, perhaps someone in Britain would be kind enough to buy seed of Roscoea purpurea ´Paul Bygrave hybrids´ and donate them as well to provide Marc with these?
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Iberis sempervirens 'Masterpiece', planted on two different places, is flowering since May and is still going on.
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Cyclamen hederifolium spreads over the dryer parts over the garden under conifers and other trees.
One plant followed the trend to "modern" crevice gardening and appeared in a horizontal service, supported
by ants.
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Hi Rudi,
Almost all my cyclamen are evergreen here, but I don't expect flowers for another month. Yours are beautiful!
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Cyclamen hederifolium spreads over the dryer parts over the garden under conifers and other trees.
One plant followed the trend to "modern" crevice gardening and appeared in a horizontal service, supported
by ants.
Rudi, what a wonderful display!
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Thank you, Marc and Herman.
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C europeum is a synonym for C purpurascens.
Diane,
I hadn't realized that. C. purpurascens is usually available on one or more of the seed exchanges.
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Hello, I have 3 different Sternbergias. No. 1 is Sterbnergia greutheriana (ex J. Ruksans),
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which is considered by many to be lutea. No. 2
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is purchased as S. lutea and is sized between No. 3,
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also purchased as lutea.
Incidentally, the greuteriana is the one that gets the most water and nutrients and whose flowers are more reminiscent of crocus
because they are very short stems. On Pic 3 you can see, that for this sternbergia, the leave appear bevore! the flower???
Does anyone have any information about this for me?
Greetings
Bernd
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Bernd,
I have never grown Sternbergia; but, seeing yours makes me want to try some.
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Bernd, Nr. 3 is truly Sternbergia lutea, Nr. 2 could be S. sicula. All Sternbergia
species are good performers if they grow in suitable places; in my experience
S. lutea is the easiest to cultivate. Good luck with your plants!
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Thanks Rudy. This is very informative for me! The plants have been in place for a long time, so I assume they are established. Another question: is there an identification key for Sternbergia online?
Bernd
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Sternbergia sicula blooms in my garden before lutea.
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Sternbergia sicula
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Unfortunately, my garden offers hardly any places where to grow sternbergias successfully. My only clone was collected more than 45 years ago on the Istrian isle Losinj. It flowers always with leaves developed and obviously doesn´t require much sun, as long as a dry rest in summer is provided.
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A begonia I bought as B. taliensis, more probably B. asperifolia or something similar.
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Some more roscoeas of the Paul Bygrave´s strain, this one with rosy-lilac flowers.
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This one resembles ´Red Gurkha´, yet the stems are green and the red of the flowers a bit more purplish.
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Several Roscoea scillifolia are in flower, I received the seed only a few months ago from SRGC! Many thanks to the kind donors!
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Things are going faster than i thought, it's still warm but bulbs are very quick to bloom.
Colchicum cilicium
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Colchicum autumnale, double form
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Colchicim byzantinum
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Colchicum haynaldii
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Cyclamen rohifsianum
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Slugs were shy until now but the colder nights offer better opportunities for our friends ;D
Allium rupestre
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Crocus goulimyi, a real star in the garden and so easy to grow
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Sternbergia greuteriana
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Merendera filifolia, those in the garden started to root so a few patience for flowers
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Hyacinthoides lingulata
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Colchicum bivonae, this species can grow under deep shade as sunny position.
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As Marc was so kind and generous to offer to buy seeds of trillium species of interest and donate them to the seed exchange, perhaps someone in Britain would be kind enough to buy seed of Roscoea purpurea ´Paul Bygrave hybrids´ and donate them as well to provide Marc with these?
Mariette,
I donated a selection of Trillium seed to NARGS. I briefly forgot to whom I had promised them. I will donate a large selection of US trillium seed to SRGC next year :-\
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Hi Marc, it was Herman Mylemans, who uttered an interest in certain species - I do not own the amenities to grow a large collection of anything. Nevertheless, I admired Your generosity when reading it. :)
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Colchicum bivonae, this species can grow under deep shade as sunny position.
C.bivonae is also one of my favourites, and it does well here.
These pictures are from mid September.
'Violet Queen' and white C.x byzantinum 'Album'
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Some more Colchicums.
'Glory of Heemstede' is also a good one.
'Gracia' is really beautiful. In the background there is 'Emerald Town'.
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These pictures are from the end of September.
'Nancy Lindsay'
'World Champion's Cup'
'Rosy Dawn' just coming up, in the right 'Autumn Herald'
Colchicum x byzantinum 'Album' and asters
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In the foreground 'Autumn Queen' and in the back plants bought as Colchicum cilicicum 'Purpureum' from garden center. I'm wondering if these are C.cilicicum??
What do you think?
In the second picture the ones only coming up on the right are 'Faberge Silver'.
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So many good Colchicums! I love the plant combinations in * DSC_3667.jpg
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So many good Colchicums! I love the plant combinations in * DSC_3667.jpg
Thank you Maggi. It is a bit crowded corner but I like how all are flowering at the same time. :)