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mark smyth

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Euonymus alatus f. compactus
« on: November 05, 2011, 12:22:35 AM »
I bought a Euonymous elata Compactus because the label description and photo showed a plant with fantastic red autumn foliage.

Mine is poor. I would remove it and plant something different. How do your plants compare to mine? Any idea why mine isnt red?
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Re: Euonymus alatus f. compactus
« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2011, 08:38:37 AM »
My Euonymus elata is always one of the best autumn shrubs. I am not sure it is 'Compactus' though but it is more than 20 years old and still a handy size. The autumn colour differ a little from one year to the next, more sun produces stronger colours. However, the colour is never quite like yours. Here is a picture:

Btw, did you mean E. alatus 'Compactus'? The twigs of your shrub doesn't show the cork ridges.
« Last Edit: November 05, 2011, 08:44:24 AM by Hoy »
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Re: Euonymus alatus f. compactus
« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2011, 10:37:22 AM »
Euonymous elata Compactus
My Euonymus elata
I haven't found anything about the species. Are ou sure it's exists?

Think Mark asked about Euonymus alatus.

It has 4 wings on it's branches. It's fall color depends on sunny place and poor soil.
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Re: Euonymus alatus f. compactus
« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2011, 10:40:10 AM »
The twigs of your shrub doesn't show the cork ridges.
Yes. Mark's Euonymus isn't alatus. It looks more like E. europaeus.
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Re: Euonymus alatus f. compactus
« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2011, 10:47:58 AM »
E. alatus cork ridges

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Re: Euonymus alatus f. compactus
« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2011, 12:29:47 PM »
Euonymous elata Compactus
My Euonymus elata
I haven't found anything about the species. Are ou sure it's exists?

Think Mark asked about Euonymus alatus.
It has 4 wings on it's branches. It's fall color depends on sunny place and poor soil.
I agree, Olga. I realized that the name was wrong but forgot to correct before posting.
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Re: Euonymus alatus f. compactus
« Reply #6 on: November 05, 2011, 01:00:25 PM »
Euonymus alatus f.  compactus is a synonym of E. alatus .... spelling!




 Mark's plant is something else, as Olga and Trond suggest, I'm sure.
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Re: Euonymus alatus f. compactus
« Reply #7 on: November 05, 2011, 01:54:00 PM »
Euonymus alatus f.  compactus is a synonym of E. alatus .... spelling!

"forma compactus" comes within the species botanically, but "Compactus" is a distinct horticultural cultivar with an AGM.  Here it is listed on the RHS site
Euonymus alatus "Compactus"
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Re: Euonymus alatus f. compactus
« Reply #8 on: November 05, 2011, 01:57:34 PM »
Well done, Diane, thanks!  I can rely on you to keep me right.... thank goodness. :-[
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Re: Euonymus alatus f. compactus
« Reply #9 on: November 05, 2011, 02:30:26 PM »
My mistake - it's alatus with winged stems
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Re: Euonymus alatus f. compactus
« Reply #10 on: November 05, 2011, 09:10:59 PM »
Trond and Olga, that is certainly outstanding autumn colour. I must find it here. But Mark, while not so fiery, yours is very pretty. :)
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Re: Euonymus alatus f. compactus
« Reply #11 on: November 05, 2011, 10:18:46 PM »
It'll be in the bin next autumn if it does not perform
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Re: Euonymus alatus f. compactus
« Reply #12 on: November 05, 2011, 11:59:51 PM »
Here are a few pictures of E. alatus 'Compactus', it was a house warming gift from friends 22 years ago. Every year I whack it back by 3-4', it's such a vigorous grower.  It was widely planted in New England for the past half century or longer, but it is now banned from sale from some States such as in Massachusetts, because it is widely considered an invasive in eastern USA.  Fall color can vary, depending on weather, most years its a brilliant red (the inner leaves that are shaded turn yellow or pinkish).  Also seen here is regular E. alatus which gets much taller and grows more open, and typically has pinkish fall color.  Interesting to note, young wood does not always show the strong corky wings.

Fall color on 10/29/2010
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Fall color on 11/01/2004, when I was building my deck
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Seeds, which are spread around by birds eating them:
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This site describes a number of cultivars  although 'Compactus' is the one universally seen here.
http://hcs.osu.edu/hcs/tmi/plantlist/eu_latus.html

Variants
virtually all cultivars of Burning Bush are more compact than the species form, but they differ primarily in how compact they are, how corky or non-corky the stems are, cold hardiness, upright versus rounded shape, and whether they branch to the ground versus become leggy with age; the following is an expanded list of modern cultivars:

Euonymus alatus 'Bailey Strain' - similar in all aspects of appearance to 'Compacta', but hardy to zone 4; rare availability

Euonymus alatus 'Compacta' - a "compact" form maturing slowly at 8' tall by 8' wide, with virtually no corky wings on its first-year, relatively thin, but more dense green stems, but only hardy to zone 5; the most popular cultivar by far and abundantly available; sometimes alternatively spelled Euonymus alata 'Compactus'

Euonymus alatus 'Nordine Strain' - heavily cork-barked, branching to the ground, to 10' tall by 10' wide, hardy to zone 4; low availability

Euonymus alatus 'Phellomanus' - heavily cork-barked, to 10' tall by 10' wide, hardy to zone 4; rare availability

Euonymus alatus 'Rudy Haag' - similar in appearance but much smaller than 'Compacta', slowly growing to 5' tall by 5' wide, hardy to zone 4; rare availability

Euonymus alatus 'Synnestvedt' - branching to the ground, to 10' tall by 10' wide, hardy to zone 4; rare availability


Invasives.org, google Euonymus alatus invasive for lots of information:
http://www.invasive.org/gist/alert/alrteuon.html

Massachusetts Prohibited Plant List, this plant is banned from sales here:
http://www.mass.gov/agr/farmproducts/prohibitedplantlist.htm

Interesting: "Stop the seeds, stop the spread? Sterile burning bush developed"
Researchers at the University of Connecticut have painstakingly developed a sterile triploid cultivar of Euonymus alatus, winged burning bush.
http://www.invasiveplantguide.com/blog/
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Re: Euonymus alatus f. compactus
« Reply #13 on: November 06, 2011, 05:44:21 AM »
Mark (Smyth) could you please make a photo of your Euonymus berry? The berry I can see at the third image looks not like of E. alatus (look at TheOnionMan photo).
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Re: Euonymus alatus f. compactus
« Reply #14 on: November 06, 2011, 05:53:59 AM »
Mark (TheOnionMan) you've made an outstanding autumn scenery!
My E. alatus is from our botanic garden. It's branches are always strongly winged. Berries are the same to yours. 
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