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David Nicholson

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Re: Primula 2015
« Reply #90 on: March 30, 2015, 08:36:58 AM »
Matt, my copy and paste is playing up again but if you search for Primula marginata 'Gold Plate' History it should bring up a pdf report of Wisley trials on Primula marginata 1996-98. For Gold Plate it says "foliage good, flower poor".
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Re: Primula 2015
« Reply #91 on: March 30, 2015, 09:12:26 AM »
Thanks, David. I have found a reference to it in the report of the 2008 Stirling show (Journal #121): http://files.srgc.net/journals/114to125/SRGC121.pdf
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Variation within a species is fascinating. Two forms of Primula marginata sit at extremes of the height range of this species. A tiny form was raised by Margaret and & Henry Taylor whereas David Millward’s Primula marginata ‘Gold Plate’ was larger.
I wonder if Dave might be able to tell us anything about it?
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Re: Primula 2015
« Reply #92 on: March 30, 2015, 09:22:17 AM »
You can find a photograph of Dave's excellent plant from this show here (top of page 22): http://files.srgc.net/oldshowreports/Stirling08.pdf
I think the flowers on this well-grown plant are rather fine?

'Gold Plate' was show in a foliage class at Perth in 2006 (page 5): http://files.srgc.net/oldshowreports/Perth06.pdf
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Re: Primula 2015
« Reply #93 on: March 30, 2015, 09:39:34 AM »
David M. will likely know more about the that plant- but he's just off on  his travels, to return just before the Edinburgh show - so a reply may take a while!  :)

I think the closer a plant is to "wild " marginata, the deeper the serrations are likely to be. It's always been one of my favourite primulas.
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Re: Primula 2015
« Reply #94 on: March 30, 2015, 12:04:55 PM »
Thanks, Maggi. Will patiently await Dave's return. The marginatas are my favourites too. The varied leaves, gorgeous hue to the flowers and generally tough constitution make for great plants.
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Re: Primula 2015
« Reply #95 on: March 30, 2015, 01:48:53 PM »
Just before the rains came just time to get a few pics in the greenhouse:-

Primula 'Peardrop'
P. 'Ellen Page', a lovely colour
P. 'Moonbeam' an old(ish) variety that sometimes goes under HME 469-07 (Margaret Earle)
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Re: Primula 2015
« Reply #96 on: March 30, 2015, 02:01:29 PM »
..... and three allionii cultivars:-

Primula allionii 'Crusader', I read "that this is one of the Wharfedale series" originally bred by Alec Stubbs
P. a. 'Chivalry' again from the Alec Stubbs stable
P. a. 'Marjorie Wooster' looking a bit dusty and water spotted (too near a vent).  Originally raised by K R Wooster in 1975.
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Re: Primula 2015
« Reply #97 on: March 31, 2015, 12:01:59 PM »
P.'Allen Queen'
P.allionii 'Mrs Dyas'
P.allionii 'Pinkie'

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Re: Primula 2015
« Reply #98 on: April 02, 2015, 07:55:51 PM »
Nice ones Philip.
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Re: Primula 2015
« Reply #99 on: April 03, 2015, 10:23:26 AM »
Primula allionii Agnes
Primula x Bilekii no flowers as yet but the foliage is wonderful.
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Re: Primula 2015
« Reply #100 on: April 03, 2015, 10:49:44 AM »
This very small Primula marginata 'Napoleon' started to bloom in its outside tufa trough.
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Re: Primula 2015
« Reply #101 on: April 03, 2015, 10:54:56 AM »
Nice allionii Mike, nice healthy x bilekii too, I lost mine to botrytus last year.

Nice Napolean Luc, mine in the greenhouse are just starting. 
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Re: Primula 2015
« Reply #102 on: April 04, 2015, 01:18:48 AM »
P. 'Broadwell Milkmaid'

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Re: Primula 2015
« Reply #103 on: April 04, 2015, 07:22:29 PM »
Primula allionii 'Jenny'. A lovely wee thing.

My internet researches suggest this is not the clone named after Jenny Archibold, which is pin flowered. But is the other one thrum? http://www.auriculas.org.uk/Allionii_Data.htm

Any views, based on this photo?
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Re: Primula 2015
« Reply #104 on: April 05, 2015, 06:33:19 PM »
Any views, based on this photo?
looks like a maginata to me
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