Fritillaria I/D

[Sinchets]

Sorry, Gerry. I posted the follow up pic in the wrong thread. The nectaries are small and circular and apart from the difference in flower shape the inside of the flower looks the same as the one posted by Mike I. earlier in this thread.
I also have this flowering now. I am wondering if it fits in with F.pyrenaica/hispanca?

[Gerry Webster]

Sorry, Gerry. I posted the follow up pic in the wrong thread. The nectaries are small and circular and apart from the difference in flower shape the inside of the flower looks the same as the one posted by Mike I. earlier in this thread.
I also have this flowering now. I am wondering if it fits in with F.pyrenaica/hispanca?

Simon - difficult to see the nectaries in this pic but your description is consistent with F. kotschyana. The reason I hesitated is the leaves. As I know it F. kotschyana has quite broad, shiny green leaves. Your plant seems to have quite narrow & somewhat glaucous leaves. These frits can be hell to identify without knowing the provenance.

Sorry, I'm not familiar with F. pyrenaica/hispanica.

[Pauli]

Hello from Austria!

Can somebody help and identify this Frit for me please


Best wishes

Herbert

[Gerry Webster]

Herbert - It would be helpful to see the entire plant & the inside of the flower. From what is visible in your photo I would guess either F. tuntasia or F. obliqua (which are possibly the same thing).

[Gunilla]

I like the pattern on the inside of this Fritillaria but I don't know what name to put on the label.

 

[Gerry Webster]

Gunilla - the presence of a whorl of 3 leaves below the flower & the fairly broad leaves suggests F. thessala (= F. graeca subsp. thessala), a very variable plant. There are other possibilities but I think this is the most likely. Where did it come from?

[Gunilla]

Sorry Gerry, I don't know where it comes from originally. I found it on a plant market many years ago and it has grown outside in my garden since then. 

[Ian Y]

Gunilla

I have another suggestion for the identity of your Fritillaria - it is F. tubiformis.

It is always difficult to get any idea of scale from a picture so it is never so easy to id a plant from a picture as it is when you are standing in front of it.

[TheOnionMan]

I've had this Frit for years, came to me incorrectly identified as an American species.  Any idea about what it could be?

[Ian Y]

Mark

It looks like Fritillaria pontica, check and see if it has dark round nectaries that will confirm it.

[Gerry Webster]

Gunilla
I have another suggestion for the identity of your Fritillaria - it is F. tubiformis.

It is always difficult to get any idea of scale from a picture so it is never so easy to id a plant from a picture as it is when you are standing in front of it.

I must admit I hadn't thought of F. tubiformis as a possibility. I agree the flowers seem consistent with this sp. but the leaves? As I know it F. tubiformis has glaucous or very glaucous leaves; this also how Martyn Rix describes it in Flora Europaea. The leaves on Gunilla's plant seem to be green. Looking again I'm no longer convinced by  my suggestion of F. thessala so, in brief, I don't know.   

[Gerry Webster]

Mark
It looks like Fritillaria pontica, check and see if it has dark round nectaries that will confirm it.

This plant seems to be lightly tessellated so my guess would be F. thessala. If so, the nectaries will be ovate to ovate-lanceolate.

[Lesley Cox]

I ws going to suggest thessala as I've never seen tesselation on pontica but when the BD has spoken......one tends to keep one's own mouth closed.

[Gerry Webster]

I ws going to suggest thessala as I've never seen tesselation on pontica but when the BD has spoken......one tends to keep one's own mouth closed.

From Flora Europaea (Rix):

F. pontica - "perianth......segments green, often tinged with reddish-brown but not tessellated".

F. graeca subsp. thessala (= F. thessala) -  "perianth-segments.....green, usually lightly tessellated".

[Gunilla]

Thanks Gerry and Ian.  The colour of the leaves are just like Galanthus elwesii leaves.  In the photo below I have added a Fritillaria meleagris for size comparison.