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Gerry Webster

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Re: FRITILLARIA 2011
« Reply #15 on: February 20, 2011, 03:09:33 PM »
art600 it looks like as Frit. elwesii what we grow
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I agree, almost certainly F. elwesii. The anthers are characteristic; very thick.
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Re: FRITILLARIA 2011
« Reply #16 on: February 20, 2011, 06:18:43 PM »
Hi Alessandro, here is a (poor, sorry) picture of the whole plant, as well as another, better form of ariana and striata, now with flowers open.

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 Edit by maggi to rotate first pic of bench with F. ariana - now pic 3
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Re: FRITILLARIA 2011
« Reply #17 on: February 20, 2011, 11:53:30 PM »
Thank you, Maggi...much better

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Re: FRITILLARIA 2011
« Reply #18 on: February 26, 2011, 07:22:04 PM »
Some Frits today - another F. ariana and a sp. from the Rhinopetalum section acquired from Janis - it's very pretty even though the flowers are small, can anyone put a name to it?

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Re: FRITILLARIA 2011
« Reply #19 on: February 26, 2011, 10:29:33 PM »
F. bucharica perhaps.
Is that orange one in your second pic Corydalis sewerzowii Alex?  
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Re: FRITILLARIA 2011
« Reply #20 on: February 26, 2011, 11:50:00 PM »
Yes, next to C. macrocentra.

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Re: FRITILLARIA 2011
« Reply #21 on: February 27, 2011, 03:40:11 PM »
Anybody any idea about this rather plain Frit from China? Is this F. thunbergii?

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Re: FRITILLARIA 2011
« Reply #22 on: February 27, 2011, 09:20:24 PM »
I think so but thunbergii often has more defined checkering and tendrils at the leaf tips.
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Re: FRITILLARIA 2011
« Reply #23 on: February 27, 2011, 09:43:31 PM »
Could be a thunbergii... they're very variable  :-X
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Re: FRITILLARIA 2011
« Reply #24 on: February 27, 2011, 09:49:17 PM »
Thanx Lesley and Maggi, that means I am gonna move it to the garden and take it out of the pot. It is not terribly exciting and if it is thunbergii, it should do fine in the border. One pot less to worry about.... ;)

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Re: FRITILLARIA 2011
« Reply #25 on: February 27, 2011, 11:17:09 PM »
Apropos F. thunbergii,  Flora of China states that the style (which unfortunately is absent in the photo) is 3-lobed, & the seed capsule is broadly winged; the upper leaves (not visible) are slightly cirrose, ie tendril-like.
While this could be F. thunbergii, I don't think we have sufficient information for a definite identification.
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Re: FRITILLARIA 2011
« Reply #26 on: February 28, 2011, 06:46:16 AM »
Apropos F. thunbergii,  Flora of China states that the style (which unfortunately is absent in the photo) is 3-lobed, & the seed capsule is broadly winged; the upper leaves (not visible) are slightly cirrose, ie tendril-like.
While this could be F. thunbergii, I don't think we have sufficient information for a definite identification.

Just went to the glasshouse to check but the style is completely absent in this particular flower, will check when the second one opens (no more flowers). If not thunbergii, what possible other species can there be for China that look sort of like this Gerry?

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Re: FRITILLARIA 2011
« Reply #27 on: February 28, 2011, 10:06:49 AM »
Apropos F. thunbergii,  Flora of China states that the style (which unfortunately is absent in the photo) is 3-lobed, & the seed capsule is broadly winged; the upper leaves (not visible) are slightly cirrose, ie tendril-like.
While this could be F. thunbergii, I don't think we have sufficient information for a definite identification.

Just went to the glasshouse to check but the style is completely absent in this particular flower, will check when the second one opens (no more flowers). If not thunbergii, what possible other species can there be for China that look sort of like this Gerry?
Pascal - The best known form of F. thunbergii is the plant that was widely grown for years as F. verticillata & the flowers of this (possibly a single clone) look somewhat different to those of yours. However, fritillaries are extremely variable & notoriously difficult to identify, especially from photographs. So, without going through the whole Flora of China, I  hesitate to make any definite pronouncements on identity. You could look for your self:

http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=113029
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Re: FRITILLARIA 2011
« Reply #28 on: March 02, 2011, 01:34:57 PM »
The small Fritillaria pudica flowering here now.
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Re: FRITILLARIA 2011
« Reply #29 on: March 03, 2011, 11:35:21 AM »
A couple of pictures of a fritillaria from Arthur which he thinks may be a new species
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