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Seedy Subjects! => Seeds Wanted => Topic started by: corydalisambigua on September 10, 2022, 09:06:41 PM
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Hello Rock Garden people!
Could I pay someone to forward me seeds from Yuzawa Engie in Japan? I have been looking for corydalis ambigua seeds for years and they are the only source I have found but they are not shipping to Canada because the pandemic has limited air travel and therefore air mail. They are shipping to USA. Netherlands, Switzerland, Ireland, Italy, New Zealand, Belgium, Australia and South Korea. I can buy the seeds, ship them to you, and pay you to forward them to me. If you want to buy seeds from Yuzawa as part of the deal I'm sure that can be arranged! Canada allows the import of small amounts of seed without permits. Thanks for your consideration, happy gardening,
Dorothy
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Hi Dorothy
Will the seller issue a phytosanitary cert', so that import into either the UK or EU would be legal?
I have no idea what perecntage of seed shipments are found by customs, it certainly isn't 100%, but without a phytosanitary cert', any that are found are confiscated and destroyed.
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Dorothy,
Yuzawa Engei are now accepting plant orders from the UK and I assume they may take a seed order although they don't say as much on the website.
Buddy
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Yuzawa Engei are now accepting plant orders from the UK
i have not searched the website thoroughly, but I can't see mention of phyto' cert's.
There are countless nurseries and seed suppliers across the world who will accept orders from anywhere that you care to mention, but without a phyto', imports into the EU or UK are illegal. If this nursery offers phyto' cert's, great, no problem.
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Hi,
Thanks for the replies Vinny and Buddy. Yuzawa Engei does provide phytosanitary certificates for the EU. It looks like they are still not shipping seeds to Canada, unfortunately. Alternately, if anyone knows of any other source of corydalis ambigua seeds please let me know, I have not found any.
Dorothy
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They are only shipping to USA. Netherlands, Switzerland, Ireland, Italy, New Zealand, Belgium, Australia and South Korea.
Their problem is that Japan Post have ceased sending mail to most countries - a problem that I have come across with things other than seeds/plants. Why they will not use DHL or another carrier......................
The charge for a phyto' is 21 Euros (which is cheap compared to many countries). If customs stop the pacakage, there will be charges on the total value - seeds, plus phyto', plus postage. In the UK that would be around 22% plus 15 Euros admin' charge. I don't know about all of the EU, but in Germany there is also a phyto' inspection on incoming material, which you have to pay for.
The minimum order for seed is 14 Euros, but they do not give a postage cost. Looking on Japan Post website, something like 7 Euros would be somewhere close.
So, minimum cost to get the order to Europe, assuming that the package is stopped by customs, is going to be something around 70 Euros.
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if you're living in UK https://www.kevockgarden.co.uk/plantlist/plant.asp?sku=C6A-1P&Plant_Name=Corydalis_ambigua
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It is not availavle there at the moment.
But in Germany they have it. https://www.floramontana.de/pflanzen/c-d.html I already asked if this is true.
I will buy some and plant it in one of my floating gardens. In case I get seeds I could send you some. Fresh of course, because Corydalis seeds are usually very short viable.
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I have ordered 5 bulbs. Hopefully they are big enough to bloom. ;)
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It is only the Small Packet category that Japan Post have ceased sending. If you order plants from Yuzawa Engei you can add seeds to the order to be delivered with the plants (in November). It's an expensive way to get seeds if there are no plants you want.
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Are Corydalis seeds from the spring still viable? Dry stored probably not. So bulbs would be better for you.
Fresh seeds from geophyte are usually sent in May.
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Thank you for the input everyone!
As for plants, Yuzawa says. "For now, we can take the plants order only from France, Ireland, UK, USA, South Korea."
I would prefer bulbs as I am impatient, but I need a phytosanitary certificate to bring those into Canada and a phyto from Germany is 60 Euros.
PartisanGardener, if you get seeds from your bulbs next spring, I would happily pay for them! My other hope is maybe there will be seeds in the SRG seed exchange this year. :)
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The Phyto from Germany is quite expensive, but the bulbs seem quite cheap here only 5 Euros a piece. But I do not know if he bothers about all the paperwork
and how much is the postcharge to Canada? Did you ask?
I keep you updated and might post here some flowers ( if I get them to flower).
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Bulbs arrived today. I am quite surprised. 5 bulbs ordered and on the bill.
Look what I got.
11 additional bulbs.
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Plantmaterial into US and Canada is not permitted wrote Mr. Schmidt, regrettably .
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But are seeds classified as plant material?
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He sells only plants. I personally would classify seeds as plant material. So are crops and wood. Both imports inflicted massive damage to local ecosystems.
Laws are not always logical. ::)
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If you get seeds you might like to know whats written in this article.
https://cdnsciencepub.com/doi/10.1139/b05-027
I am still waiting for the arrival of seeds from Japan.
edit by maggi to add :
Abstract of that paper....
In Japan, the herbaceous perennial Corydalis ambigua Cham. et Schlecht. occurs in Tohoku and Hokkaido, where it grows in deciduous woodlands. Seeds have an underdeveloped embryo that is physiologically dormant at the time of dispersal in late May. In laboratory experiments, embryos did not grow when kept continuously at 5 °C or at alternating diurnal temperatures of 25/15 °C. However, following warm stratification at 25/15 °C, they grew at 15/5 °C and continued to do so at 0 °C. Radicles emerged after a relatively long period at 0 or 5 °C, following warm stratification at 25/15 °C and then incubation at 15/5 °C. Embryos began to develop in autumn in seeds under near-natural conditions in a metal frame-house, and they had grown to an average of about 90% of their full length by December. Beginning in December, the seed coat split, exposing the endosperm, and in March both the radicle and the cotyledon emerged under the snow or immediately after snow melt. Dormancy in seeds of C. ambigua is the same as that in seeds of Hydrastis canadensis L., which has been described as a special type of deep simple epicotyl morphophysiological dormancy.Key words: Corydalis ambigua, embryo growth, morphophysiological dormancy, seed germination phenology, underdeveloped embryo.