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Some Gardeners Have Lot To Answer For
« on: August 29, 2008, 09:39:05 PM »
OK  I’ve fixed the forum so that entitles me to at least one moaning  post!   ;D

My other great interest outside of plants is fly fishing;  a  40 year old passion  that  takes me to lots of different wild places. The number of non-native plant species that infest some of our  river banks really  is beyond belief. Impenetrable  and often dangerous stands of  giant hogweed, Himalayan  balsam, Japanese knotweed make  the trek along some parts of our rivers hazardous and often impossible. Skunk cabbages, mimulus of various  species, lupins  and other exotics are attractive but really should not be there.

The detrimental environmental effects of these invaders  on native flora and fauna are hard to quantify, but this mess, out of sight and out of mind as it is, should be publicised to serve as a warning to us all that we have to be careful how we dispose  of  unwanted exotic plant material.

And don’t get me started on non-native fish………………..   ;)

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Re: Some Gardeners Have Lot To Answer For
« Reply #1 on: August 29, 2008, 09:58:49 PM »
Good to see the forum back running again - Many thanks.

Couldn't agree more re plants. Impatiens balsamica, fallopia japonica and the giant hogweed are our local pests.

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Re: Some Gardeners Have Lot To Answer For
« Reply #2 on: August 29, 2008, 10:34:13 PM »
I'm interested in hearing what the non native fish are
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Re: Some Gardeners Have Lot To Answer For
« Reply #3 on: August 29, 2008, 10:53:31 PM »
There are several non native trout in our rivers and lakes now (Rainbow trout, Brook trout, Steel head, Blue trout etc) and there are Pike Perch more commonly known as Zander, Catfish and various others that I can't remember.

Rainbow trout can be found in many rivers in the South which are stocked. Leave the brown trout alone!

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Re: Some Gardeners Have Lot To Answer For
« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2008, 12:23:44 AM »
And over here we have lots and lots of carp infesting our local waterways. ::)
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« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2008, 12:25:07 AM »
No to mention all the live fish that are brought up to be used as bait and now infest our lochs!
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Re: Some Gardeners Have Lot To Answer For
« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2008, 09:03:40 AM »
No to mention all the live fish that are brought up to be used as bait and now infest our lochs!

Yes, roach, dace, ruff, gudgeon etc etc. All non-natives in Scotland. The vile practice of live baiting has been illegal here for a good few years now, but I have little doubt it still goes on. Roach were recently discovered in the Loch Of Lorriston in Aberdeen. They just “mysteriously”  appeared. Pike are still being moved around by selfish idiots too I'm afraid and in uniformly shallow lochs they reek havoc on populations of native salmonids
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Re: Some Gardeners Have Lot To Answer For
« Reply #7 on: August 30, 2008, 09:48:34 AM »
Fred

If you are ever out down this way, look me up and we can go fly fishing together.

Of course the Brown and Rainbow are introduced ,however they grow like Trilliums here ...rather large.

Cheers dave.
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Re: Some Gardeners Have Lot To Answer For
« Reply #8 on: August 30, 2008, 09:52:02 AM »
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The River Don near my home in Aberdeenshire. Giant hogweed is a beautiful and statuesque plant and one can understand its attractions to  large gardens, but my goodness it’s a real problem once it gets into the riparian environment.  Japanese knotweed is not as dangerous but in many ways it’s worse as it smothers everything else out and as a result allows serious  bank erosion when it dies down in winter due to the loss of stabilizing native plants.

Best to grow alpines I think.

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Re: Some Gardeners Have Lot To Answer For
« Reply #9 on: August 30, 2008, 09:56:50 AM »
Fred

If you are ever out down this way, look me up and we can go fly fishing together.

Of course the Brown and Rainbow are introduced ,however they grow like Trilliums here ...rather large.

Cheers dave.

Dave,

Oddly enough I’m heading for the South Island with Alex,  a pal of mine, for 4 weeks next February. Alex has been there 5 times already, this will be my first trip. Yes, the trout there are huge and  no one’s mugs I’m told.


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« Reply #10 on: August 30, 2008, 10:53:35 AM »
That's terrific Fred.

I'll PM you to see if we can meet up.

Cheers Dave.
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Re: Some Gardeners Have Lot To Answer For
« Reply #11 on: August 30, 2008, 01:47:32 PM »
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Oddly enough I’m heading for the South Island with Alex,  a pal of mine, for 4 weeks next February. 


WHAT!!??!!  FRED...... ABROAD FOR 4 WEEKS ??? But how will I cope??? :'( :( :o :P :-\ :-X ???
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« Reply #12 on: August 30, 2008, 05:19:10 PM »
This topic relates to another...see here:
http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=2081.0
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« Reply #13 on: September 01, 2008, 12:18:22 PM »
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Oddly enough I’m heading for the South Island with Alex,  a pal of mine, for 4 weeks next February. 


WHAT!!??!!  FRED...... ABROAD FOR 4 WEEKS ??? But how will I cope??? :'( :( :o :P :-\ :-X ???

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Re: Some Gardeners Have Lot To Answer For
« Reply #14 on: September 01, 2008, 12:37:35 PM »
And chocolate, LOTS of chocolate.  The better the quality the better you'll cope Maggi!  ;) ;D
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