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Re: Tulipa 2021
« Reply #15 on: April 11, 2021, 11:55:38 AM »
Tulipa zenaidae in red from Kyrgiz ridge collected by Aleksandr Naumenko

It does look different from typical zenaidae / lehmanniana but this group appears to be quite variable - as often with tulips.




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Re: Tulipa 2021
« Reply #16 on: April 12, 2021, 09:25:26 AM »
Tulipa vvedenskyi x Kursu Dzelts
Tulipa fosteriana self sown
Tulipa clusiana 'Lady jane' that set seedlings all round
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Re: Tulipa 2021
« Reply #17 on: April 13, 2021, 07:46:24 PM »
Yann, how long did it take fosteriana from sowing to flowers?

Tulipa humilis alba coerulea oculata from Dutch stock does very well here and multiplies nicely.
However despite a fine mesh fence I do have a mouse problem - look at the leaves.

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Re: Tulipa 2021
« Reply #18 on: April 13, 2021, 08:32:28 PM »
Yann, how long did it take fosteriana from sowing to flowers?

Tulipa humilis alba coerulea oculata from Dutch stock does very well here and multiplies nicely.
However despite a fine mesh fence I do have a mouse problem - look at the leaves.

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Re: Tulipa 2021
« Reply #19 on: April 14, 2021, 08:33:49 AM »
Even longer than I had imagined...  :-\

Tulipa heweri has also been attacked by mice which ripped off some flowers, but fortunately there are so many it does not even matter. An excellent and prolific Dutch selection, though it looks a bit overbred for my taste. Then again I guess all material comes from Grey-Wilson's and Hewer's single Afghan collection in the 70s so I wonder -  are there even distinct clones in culture?

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Re: Tulipa 2021
« Reply #20 on: April 14, 2021, 12:23:14 PM »
Some photos of Tulips in his collection from Janis Ruksans in Latvia


 Tulipa cf. biflora 12KZ-090 - from Kazahstan


Tulipa biflora aff 12KZ-059


Tulipa kaufmanniana seedling with semi-double flowers -


Tulipa kurdica - from Iraq Kurdistan


Tulipa humilis WHIR-111 -Iran, Kuh-e Sendan Dag, alt. 2395 m
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Re: Tulipa 2021
« Reply #21 on: April 14, 2021, 12:27:40 PM »
more Tulips from Janis' collection

Tulipa polychroma WHIR-108 - with purple ovary - Iran, between Aftar and Gur Sefid, alt. 1730 m


Tulipa dasystemon Kugart, Kirghizia

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New Tulipa species from Iran - its publication is in process.


This beautiful Tulipa kaufmanniana I got from Bishkek Botanical garden as Tulipa ferganica


Tulipa hissarica from Tajikistan - has up to 4 flowers on stem and can vary in height. Usually earliest and shortest form still not started blooming, season is quite strange.

There are  more  photos from Janis  of tulips and other  bulbs in this thread :
https://www.srgc.org.uk/forum/index.php?topic=18458.0
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Re: Tulipa 2021
« Reply #22 on: April 14, 2021, 03:18:07 PM »

Tulipa humilis alba coerulea oculata from Dutch stock does very well here and multiplies nicely.


They are beautiful anyway. Good to hear that they do multiply.
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Re: Tulipa 2021
« Reply #23 on: April 15, 2021, 11:55:01 PM »
Tulipa eichleri from Dutch stock

There is some confusion between T. eichleri Hort. commonly found in commerce and the one naturally occurring in the Caucasus region. Of unknown origin and in cultivation for more than a century the first is supposed to be quite different from T. eichleri in the wild (which is closely related to or a synonym of  T. undulatifolia) and most likely some other species. According to Diana Everett, T. eichleri Hort. may be T. affinis / fosteriana or even belong to Neotulipae. Christenhusz (2013) placed it in T. agenensis s.l.
Note the blotch and yellow rim on the inner tepals in my plants ends in a horizontal line forming a 'radioactive' sign while being convex in the outer tepals.

I have seen this clone in both pictures designated as the cultivated and wild version so I am a bit at loss here.???
According to D. Everett there is a lot of variation in the blotches of plants she encountered in the wild but they all look different from mine.
Janis offers T. eichleri from seeds collected in Caucasus with exactly the same blotches as mine so it appears to be the real deal.
http://rarebulbs.lv/index.php/en/catal/product/view/1/7673

According to Curtis Botanical Magazine, T. eichleri Hort. does look very much like T. agenensis.
https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/page/436175#page/199/mode/1up

In any case a spectacular plant flowering in the brightest red imaginable.

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Re: Tulipa 2021
« Reply #24 on: April 18, 2021, 10:50:07 PM »
Tulipa doerfleri like my heavy clay
Tulipa whittallii from seeds i collected 15 or so years ago in Outer Mani.
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Re: Tulipa 2021
« Reply #25 on: April 18, 2021, 11:20:38 PM »
Very nice, Yann!
If you ever have any bulbs of those two to spare, please let me know! :)

Meanwhile another pleasant surprise - Tulipa stapfii from Dutch stock
The bulbs were ridiculously cheap for such beautiful and unusual plants. The flowers are rather small but the deep red color is amazing in contrast to the black blotch, bright violet pollen and turquoise undulate leaves with purple rim. Definitely one of my favorite species.

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Re: Tulipa 2021
« Reply #26 on: April 19, 2021, 07:30:30 PM »
I planted a few Tulipa clusiana in the autumn, and they have opened very nicely now we are at last getting a bit of warmth.

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Re: Tulipa 2021
« Reply #27 on: April 19, 2021, 07:33:19 PM »
'Apeldoorn Elite' is a very nice Darwin tulip that I have grown for years without lifting.

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Another nice long-lived Dutch tulip.

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Re: Tulipa 2021
« Reply #28 on: April 22, 2021, 04:40:42 PM »
Last week Tulipa humilis ‘Red Beauty’ opened. It was a gift and defenitly a nice surprise. Thanks Hein688051-0688053-1
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Re: Tulipa 2021
« Reply #29 on: April 23, 2021, 12:47:39 PM »
Plenty tulips in the  collection of  Janis Ruksans, including  some  of his  most  successful introductions   see  here : https://www.srgc.org.uk/forum/index.php?topic=18458.msg421387#msg421387
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