Scottish Rock Garden Club Forum
Bulbs => Ian Young's Bulb Log - Feedback Forum => Topic started by: mark smyth on July 23, 2010, 11:42:49 AM
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Ian where do you buy or collect volcanic dust?
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Mark, the rock dust is from a Scottish couple, Cameron and Moira Thomson, who have been researching its use for about 15 years
SEER CENTRE
Ceanghline, Straloch Farm
Enochdhu, Blairgowrie
PH10 7PJ
Scotland
Tel. 01250 881789
http://www.seercentre.org.uk/
http://www.seercentre.org.uk/purchase.htm
available in "Norn Iron" here: Strabane Garden Centre
51 Dock Road
STRABANE
BT82 8EE
Tel: 048 7188 3698
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thanks
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Hello Ian ,
How many gramms of this rock dust you add it per ltr. of compost ?
On the label of my rock dust is only written :
12,5 kg per 100 qm ....
Thank you
Hans
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I have used Black Rock Phosphate on all my bulbs and plants for yearss. It comes in 50# bags here. It is part of a "Complete Organic Fertilizer". Has done wonders for my Colchicums
Kelp meal
Dolomitic lime
Seed meal ( cotton, rape seed or Alfalfa)
Gypsum
Blood meal
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The Icelanders ought to be able to make a fortune from this :P
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I do not measure the quantities very accurately at all as I said in the bulb log I add a good pinch, the amount I can pick up between my thumb and two fingers, to 7 &9cm pots perhaps slightly more in 11 & 13 cm ones. In my compost mix I add the same quantity of rock dust as I do of bone meal which is a mug full to 5 buckets of ingredients.
I think that part of the advantage of using these more organic type additaves is that they can do less harm than the concentrated chemical forms of fertiliser.
If you want to read more about how and why I use rock dust check out these links.
http://www.srgc.org.uk/bulblog/log2007/210607/log.html
http://www.srgc.org.uk/bulblog/log2007/260607/log.html
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Many thanks for all your informations !
Hans
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Anyone else having problems viewing the pdf pages of the bulb logs, or is it just me? I keep getting bits missing, photos funny colours and Adobe messages saying there's a problem with the pdf and/or not enough information to display the page. Other, non bulb log, pdfs display okay for me. Not had this problem before.
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I had a similar problem when I was looking at an IRG issue online the other night, Martin. Was very worried that the file had been corrupted in some way and was about to take action to remove it and re-do it when I was sidetracked by something else. Went back an hour later and all loaded first time and with no problem. I thought it might be a connection problem that was transient.
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For mail order the cheapest place I found was
http://www.harrodhorticultural.com/HarrodSite/search/product/Organic_Feeds_and_Fertilisers_Granular_Plant_Food/GFE-001.htm
and if use the promotional code lvgg you will save another 10%
and if you live close to Gloucester then use http://pinetumproducts.co.uk/ and pick up their own label one £10 for 20kg
And if you want bulk then use http://www.angus-horticulture.co.uk/ and telephone for a quote
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Anyone else having problems viewing the pdf pages of the bulb logs, or is it just me? I keep getting bits missing, photos funny colours and Adobe messages saying there's a problem with the pdf and/or not enough information to display the page. Other, non bulb log, pdfs display okay for me. Not had this problem before.
It happened to me once Martin and I cured it by deleting Acrobat Reader and downloading a new version.
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Anyone else having problems viewing the pdf pages of the bulb logs, or is it just me? I keep getting bits missing, photos funny colours and Adobe messages saying there's a problem with the pdf and/or not enough information to display the page. Other, non bulb log, pdfs display okay for me. Not had this problem before.
Martin, we do create the PDF files to some degree in a backward compatible format but it depends on how old your Adobe reader is. I decided that to give the best image quality and keep the files to a reasonable size we could not make the files compatible with all older versions of Adobe reader so I optimise for the last couple of years.
As adobe reader is free and quick to download I do suggest that everyone updates to the latest version if you have not updated in the last year or two.
Occasional problems can occur in the download due to connection or browser glitches, these are usually only temporary and simply trying again will normally rectify any corruptions.
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For mail order the cheapest place I found was
http://www.harrodhorticultural.com/HarrodSite/search/product/Organic_Feeds_and_Fertilisers_Granular_Plant_Food/GFE-001.htm
and if use the promotional code lvgg you will save another 10%
and if you live close to Gloucester then use http://pinetumproducts.co.uk/ and pick up their own label one £10 for 20kg
And if you want bulk then use http://www.angus-horticulture.co.uk/ and telephone for a quote
very helpful, Neil, thanks!
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I did think that reinstalling Adobe Reader might be a good idea but hadn't got around to it. Have now done that and now no problems viewing the latest bulb log. Odd though, as this is a brand new computer I had recently downloaded the latest version, Adobe Reader 9.3.3, which is exactly what I just re-downloaded now (although the download did say 9.3.3 Update, so maybe there was a glitch which has been patched?)
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Ian I love your print design with the sheep - can you show us the final print? How will you use it in the end?
The saffron colour of the Crocus scharojanii is fabulous.
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Thank you Robin,
The prints I made at the workshop were all intended to be just test works but a number of the other artists on the course showed interest in acquiring a number of my prints so I will be making a short edition of around 10 prints of a couple of them including the sheep one I showed in the Bulb Log.
I have attached a picture of the second state of this print which adds some colour for you to see.
Crocus scharojanii has a fantastic colour. I remember when egg yolks used to be that colour.
Ok this time I have posted the picture
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Wow that's great! How many more times do you add colour? I'll wait in the hope of seeing the final result 8)
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There's more colour to come? I think he's perfect as he is above, with nicely muted high country tints but then I'm a sheepophile. ;D
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Lesley you are correct there is no more colour to be added - these are just trial proofs and now I must start an edition.
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Hi,
I just wanted to come back to the volcanic dust if you don't mind.
Builders use a granite dust when laying floors for a really smooth hard surface. Is it possible to use this in my compost as a volcanic dust? Is it the same thing anyway?
Graham
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I'm not sure about that, Graham. Not all rock dust is volcanic rock dust, I suppose... :-\
Ian is off to Pitlochry for the Photographic workshops with Sandy Leven at the Explorers Garden this weekend, so I'll draw this to his attention on his return.
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Thanks Maggi
Graham
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Graham... is that magnificant dog in your avatar yours? Hard to tell from the little photo, is he a SharPei?
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The onions are all very well, Graham... but is that magnificant dog in your avatar yours? Hard to tell from the little photo, is he a SharPei?
Yes Maggi he is mine. I was just looking through some old photo files and came across the photo and thought I would change my avatar.
He is a Shar Pei. He is six years older than the photo - less hair, more grey, slower and some arthritis - now that sound familiar!
Dexter age 5
Dexter age 11
In his favourite place in the garden on the coffee table.
Graham
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He's lovely.... nice to see a black rather than the more usual biscuity/red ones.
He looks to be enjoying his sunny spot in the garden..... don't suppose he does any weeding or tidying, does he? Just sits about lording it over you and checking that you keep the onions in good order!
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He's lovely.... nice to see a black rather than the more usual biscuity/red ones.
He looks to be enjoying his sunny spot in the garden..... don't suppose he does any weeding or tidying, does he? Just sits about lording it over you and checking that you keep the onions in good order!
No work I'm afraid.
He lords it in the house too. ;)
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Graham sorry for the great delay in answering your question.
The quick answer is that you can use granite dust in your compost as long as it is well mixed through - it has a tendency to pan or form crusts if present in quantity..
Will it do the same as the volcanic rock dust -no it has less beneficial minerals in it.
Quarry workers in our area used to spread granite dust on the gardens to great effect.
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Graham - who is the extremely handsome dog and what breed??
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Graham - who is the extremely handsome dog and what breed??
Exactly my question, Gail... I have moved the answer to this thread.... see some posts ( #23 -26)above ...... ;D
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Thanks for doing that Maggi.
You will now have your answer Gail :)
Graham
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Graham sorry for the great delay in answering your question.
The quick answer is that you can use granite dust in your compost as long as it is well mixed through - it has a tendency to pan or form crusts if present in quantity..
Will it do the same as the volcanic rock dust -no it has less beneficial minerals in it.
Quarry workers in our area used to spread granite dust on the gardens to great effect.
Thanks for the reply Ian and no problem about the delay.
I can see that it would pan or crust if not mixed completely, and as it isn't as beneficial as volcanic dust I probably won't consider it.
Thanks
Graham