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Bulbs => Ian Young's Bulb Log - Feedback Forum => Topic started by: Roma on June 30, 2010, 09:31:00 PM
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Ian, your unknown lily looks like the one I have as Lilium ledebourii. Mine has been growing in a pot for years and has grown and dwindled and grown again as it has been alternately cosseted and neglected. This is the first time I remember it flowering. There are four flowers on three stems and only one has a stigma! I have pollinated the one complete flower and hope for seeds if I keep up with the watering.
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P S. Love your Dactylorhizas
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me too :o
I know two people with Eskimo Nell who wont let me multiply their plants. "They might die" they say
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Roma, you are correct that looks like my lily thank you for the quick ID.
Mark
They are far more likely in my experience to loose 'Eskimo Nell' or any Dactylorhiza if they do not lift and split them.
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Try telling that to Mrs G and Mr G - not related
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Refusal to share is, I suppose, anyone's right but it's stupid as anyone can lose the plant concerned - as Ian says - and if you haven't given some away, how can you replace the one you lose?
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Lesley it's not the sharing. I want them to create more plants
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How do you want that to happen Mark? Division is possible but very slow if a large numer are required. Do the white forms come true from seed? Or are you thinking of micropropagation?
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I think Mark is referring to the chance to increase the number of tubers produced , by the lifting the plants, removing the offstes and replanting the old stem and tuber, to encourage extra regeneration from the old tubers.... as o described previously in the Bulb Log ( Ian will cover this again in due course as we do this in our garden).
There is little doubt from our experience that this will result in more plants, allowing them to be replanted in other situations ( or swapped, whatever!) so all the plants are not in one place and so rather more vulnerable to either disease or simple overcrowding.
Is that the case, Mark? :D
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Ledbouria cooperi LEG 270 WHAT A THING THAT IS !!!!!! Stunning
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Isn't it a little cracker? As Ian says, he got it from Sweden under that name from the Gothenburg Gang who had collected it.... but it doesn't look like L. cooperi to me... which I always associate with upstanding, pointed leaves, with pinstripes :-\
In the absence of another opinion we're sticking with that name meantime.... whatever it is it's super. I was wondering ovalifolium or such..... we do know the area it came from so that should help when the BD gets around to tracking it with Gerben et al.
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That's correct Maggi
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That's correct Maggi
Oh, good, I like to keep my powers of translation oiled! ;D
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The Ledebouria looks somewhere near L. mokobulanensis, but lacks the pitted/pustulate surface. Yours is a beautiful plant and I don't have one like it in my Ledebouria collection.
Aaron
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I wondered initially about L. galpinii, but the lack of the bullate.pustulate leaves was a problem there, too.... marvelous how a little plant can keep us occupied, isn't it?
I haven't seen L. mokobulanensis in real life .
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Ian,
You grow the best Dactylorhizas. Congratulation!
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The Dactylorhizas are certainly amazing Franz, aren't they? And Maggi, there doesn't seem to be any sign of virus in the leaves of 'Eskimo Nell.'
It's really hard to equate that Ledebouria with L. cooperi as we know it. Who is the LEG?
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I think LEG stands for Lesotho-Edinburgh-Gotenburg expedition, but I'm not 100 per cent sure on that.
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That would be a nice little round trip. :D
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I think LEG stands for Lesotho-Edinburgh-Gotenburg expedition, but I'm not 100 per cent sure on that.
No Maggi ... it was an expedition organised by an American religious group ... SHAKER LEG!
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News from Gerben Tjeersdma about the Ledebouria .... it is correctly identified now as Ledebouria ovatifolia.
So that problem is solved! Thanks, Gerben :-*
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I think LEG stands for Lesotho-Edinburgh-Gotenburg expedition, but I'm not 100 per cent sure on that.
No Maggi ... it was an expedition organised by an American religious group ... SHAKER LEG!
I believe the leader of this expedition was named Margaret, or Peggie, occasionally shortened even further.
Good to have the correct name for that lovely Ledebouria.
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Good to have the correct name for that lovely Ledebouria.
It is indeed.... I hope this is a plant which will be propagated commercially... I think it would be very popular.
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Peg Leg, Lesley.... really! ;D