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Title: "Erythroniums in Cultivation" an e-book by Ian Young
Post by: Maggi Young on March 08, 2017, 05:08:56 PM
It seems some are unaware of how to find  Ian Young's e-book - Erythroniums in Cultivation -  in pdf form - 278 pages in full colour - free download via this link :

http://www.srgc.net/filessub/general/ERYTHRONIUMS-IN-CULTIVATION%20-2016-IanYoung.pdf

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-and  at least one enterprising reader has has  it printed!

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 278 full colour pages!
Title: Re: "Erythroniums in Cultivation" an e-book by Ian Young
Post by: TheOnionMan on March 10, 2017, 01:28:03 AM
e-FANTASTIC, a treasure trove of information, meticulously organized and illustrated, BRAVO Ian!

And to offer this as a free PDF download, an incredible gift for serious gardeners everywhere, Thank You Ian.
Title: Re: "Erythroniums in Cultivation" an e-book by Ian Young
Post by: Shadylanejewel on March 10, 2017, 04:44:06 AM
I agree with Mark. Such an incredible and very generous gift, I downloaded a copy as soon as it was available.

Thank you, thank you, thank you Ian and Maggi!
Title: Re: "Erythroniums in Cultivation" an e-book by Ian Young
Post by: Jan Jeddeloh on March 13, 2017, 04:12:52 AM
I too would like to get a printed copy as would some others on this side of the pond.  I got a reply from our "enterprising forumist" and he and friends went to together to have multiple copies printed.  This, of course reduces the price per copy.  I see that Ian's copyright notice says the book can only be printed for personal use.  For a group order would Ian authorize the printing of multiple copies?  If this venture seems feasible I would "advertise" this offer on the PBS forum and possibly the NARGS forum and take orders charging a bit more than expected cost and then donate any extra to the SRGC forum.

Would Ian authorize such a venture?

Jan
Title: Re: "Erythroniums in Cultivation" an e-book by Ian Young
Post by: Ian Y on March 13, 2017, 09:46:46 AM
Jan,

I am happy for a number of people, who would like to print my book for their personal use, to get together to bring down the printing costs.
It would be good if anyone printing batches in this way would let me know.

I did not want someone to print a batch on a speculative basis and especially I did not want it being used for someone to make money.

Title: Re: "Erythroniums in Cultivation" an e-book by Ian Young
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on March 13, 2017, 11:25:15 AM
I would welcome a printed copy. To print off the electronic version, given the extortionate price of printer ink, would be expensive!
Title: Re: "Erythroniums in Cultivation" an e-book by Ian Young
Post by: Ian Y on March 13, 2017, 02:44:30 PM
John

The costs that I have heard for having it printed and bound are around 35 per copy less than it would cost if it had been published as a printed book.

Title: Re: "Erythroniums in Cultivation" an e-book by Ian Young
Post by: Maggi Young on March 13, 2017, 03:00:48 PM
 Tens of thousands of people read the Bulb Log every week - free -   now tens of thousands of people can have Ian's e-book - free.  That works  for me  and sits rather well with the SRGC ethos of informing and sharing, I think!
Title: Re: "Erythroniums in Cultivation" an e-book by Ian Young
Post by: Shadylanejewel on March 13, 2017, 04:05:29 PM
I am thrilled with the e-book, but also would love to have a printed copy. My four year old granddaughters really enjoy sitting with me and reading plant books. They're able to tell me the names of many of my flowers when we're in the garden.

As I am also on the other side of the pond, please Jan Jeddeloh add me to the list for the printed version.  :)
Title: Re: "Erythroniums in Cultivation" an e-book by Ian Young
Post by: Matt T on March 13, 2017, 08:27:47 PM
I think the e-book format is great. It is so easy of find what you're looking for by using a search function. No more leafing through pages for hours trying to find something you half remember. And so easy to magnify the page to get a closer look at the images. Whilst we all have the option to print a copy, and I dearly love my groaning shelves full of garden books, I'm just as happy to use this as an e-book to refer to on my laptop time and again. A gift to the gardening world, thanks Ian!
Title: Re: "Erythroniums in Cultivation" an e-book by Ian Young
Post by: Jupiter on March 13, 2017, 09:20:30 PM
Yes I agree with Matt, very convenient in e-book format. I briefly entertained the idea of printing it out but too much paper and ink for the home printer! I have other books as e-books and find it easy to navigate and handy, but we are digital natives in this house.
Title: Re: "Erythroniums in Cultivation" an e-book by Ian Young
Post by: astragalus on March 14, 2017, 12:06:59 PM
I agree, Matt. And it is incredibly generous of Ian to share his expertise and photographs.  No one who has not visited the Forum would ever believe the wealth of information and help (and photos) to be found free on its pages.
Title: Re: "Erythroniums in Cultivation" an e-book by Ian Young
Post by: Matt T on March 14, 2017, 04:20:41 PM
Believe me Anne, incredible as it may seem, there are still plenty of folk who have yet to discover the amazing resources held on this Forum. Let's keep spreading the word!
Title: Re: "Erythroniums in Cultivation" an e-book by Ian Young
Post by: Ian Y on March 15, 2017, 10:03:47 AM
I now have also have a printed out copy and I am very pleased at how it comes out, due to the shine of the paper the pictures below do not do full justice but do give an illustration of what you will get if you print it from the PDF.
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Title: Re: "Erythroniums in Cultivation" an e-book by Ian Young
Post by: Carolyn on March 15, 2017, 11:13:42 AM
Ian, that looks great! Did you get it printed by lulu.com or what? It looks like a hardback copy, is it?
Title: Re: "Erythroniums in Cultivation" an e-book by Ian Young
Post by: Ian Y on March 15, 2017, 11:23:14 AM
No, it is not hardback and I am very grateful to a friendly forumist, who had some printed for himself and a few friends, organised the printing for me.
Title: Re: "Erythroniums in Cultivation" an e-book by Ian Young
Post by: David Nicholson on March 15, 2017, 08:12:16 PM
Having had a small part to play in the printing of Ian's wonderful book (a very skilful one-man jobbing printer local to me did the hard work)  I have seen that others might be interested in having a copy made and subject to agreement on price and other matters I will refer to later
I would be willing to persue the matter further.

The printed copy is on good quality semi- gloss paper with a card cover front and back and is professionally stitch-bound. It has 278 pages plus covers and weighs a fraction less than 1KG per copy. The price per copy printed and bound would be of the order of 32.00 (subject to agreement) and to be fair to the printer who has worked very closely with me throughout the process I would not wish to place a further order for under 10 copies in total. In addition carriage would be at cost.

I would of course wish to be certain that any order placed fully complied with Ian's Copyright.

I would anticipate that delivery to me would be within two weeks of me placing an order.

Those interested in obtaining a copy should let me know by email or PM by noon on Wednesday ofnext week. On Thursday of next week I will confirm to all who have responded as to whether or not we are in a position to place an order. At this stage, and if we have a viable order, I will request a deposit the amount of which will equate to the estimated cost of carriage which would otherwise need to be found from my own resources (Mrs N will wish to ensure that we continue to eat!).

On placing an order and being able to confirm the date of delivery to me I would request the full amount of the printing and binding cost.
Title: Re: "Erythroniums in Cultivation" an e-book by Ian Young
Post by: David Nicholson on March 17, 2017, 03:32:36 PM
Orders for a printed copy continue to trickle in so just a reminder that I shall need final numbers by noon on Wednesday of next week.
Title: Re: "Erythroniums in Cultivation" an e-book by Ian Young
Post by: Jan Jeddeloh on March 18, 2017, 01:34:54 AM
Hi David,
I would love a copy.  I've checked on this side of the pond and the local print on demand place doesn't do color and it would cost $200 at the local coffee shop.  Ouch.  This is a much better deal. 

I completely understand Ian's concern about someone profiting from the book.  To that end Ian have you gotten the book an ISBN number?  It might help in case of piracy. 

Let us know David when you want the money and our addresses.  As I mentioned before I'd be happy to do whatever I could to help on this end.  I've looked at postage costs in the US and each copy would be under $4 for domestic postage only but first there would be the postage cost to mail the box from Great Britain to the US.  I'm not sure if this is worth fooling around with or not.  I guess it depends on your tolerance for filling out customs forms. 

Off to send emails to three other people who might be interested.

Thank you,
Jan
Title: Re: "Erythroniums in Cultivation" an e-book by Ian Young
Post by: Carolyn on March 18, 2017, 09:39:40 AM
Jan,
If this is starting to get too complicated with customs (and maybe import duty too for you to pay?), why not have a look at lulu.com?
Title: Re: "Erythroniums in Cultivation" an e-book by Ian Young
Post by: Jan Jeddeloh on March 18, 2017, 04:41:35 PM
Books don't have customs duties coming into the US so there wouldn't be a problem there.  I just popped onto Lulu.com and actually the price would be comparable maybe even a bit more using Lulu.  It's the color printing that kills.  So David's kind off looks like the best deal out there.

Jan
Title: Re: "Erythroniums in Cultivation" an e-book by Ian Young
Post by: chasw on April 11, 2017, 05:44:23 PM
Great book,mine arrived today ,thanks to David............................and of course Ian  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: "Erythroniums in Cultivation" an e-book by Ian Young
Post by: Brian Ellis on April 12, 2017, 09:04:56 AM
Mine too, thanks to all.  There's nothing like having the book in your hands!
Title: Re: "Erythroniums in Cultivation" an e-book by Ian Young
Post by: David Nicholson on December 01, 2017, 09:41:52 AM
There has been some interest in another printing and binding of Ian's book. My Printer would need at least ten copies to make the work viable for him. Cost last time was 32.00 per copy plus the cost of postage.

If you are interested let me know as soon as you can please.
Title: Re: "Erythroniums in Cultivation" an e-book by Ian Young
Post by: Maggi Young on April 08, 2018, 12:17:37 PM
The Exhibition of Erythroniums by Ian Young,  in the Douglas Pavilion, sponsored by The Scottish Rock Garden Club is open till end of October at The Explorers Garden, Pitlochry
www.explorersgarden.com (http://www.explorersgarden.com)

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and next week Ian and Jim Jermyn will take part in the second  annual Erythronium Festival at Inverewe Gardens

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"Come and join us at our very special week here at NTS Inverewe....and find out all about the many wonderful and varied of these woodland beauties - Erythronium or trout lily.
So much to see and learn from our experts about this amazing flower."

www.nts.org.uk/visit/places/inverewe (http://www.nts.org.uk/visit/places/inverewe)
Title: Re: "Erythroniums in Cultivation" an e-book by Ian Young
Post by: Helga on January 05, 2019, 08:23:32 AM
I would like to say thank you to Ian for making it possible for me to see the beauty of erythronium and learn about them!!
Beautiful informative pictures, great information and easy to understand!
I found the link in a German gardening forum and read the book in one go. Now I'm reading the logs (8 more years to enjoy  ;))
My own erythroniums are very lonely single plants still - I'll have to work on that.
I have also started to collect vocabulary to improve my English  ;D
Title: Re: "Erythroniums in Cultivation" an e-book by Ian Young
Post by: Ian Y on January 06, 2019, 07:17:13 PM
Thank you Helga for taking the time to write here and for joining the SRGC and the Forum.
It is very rewarding to learn that I am am able to share and spread my love of Erythroniums with others which was my intention in writing the book and making it freely available.
We all start from single plants and work from there.
Title: Re: "Erythroniums in Cultivation" an e-book by Ian Young
Post by: Maggi Young on March 18, 2020, 11:57:09 AM
As  Erythronium season ramps  up, and  folks  may be  looking  for  something  to  occupy  some  "down-time"  during the  virus crisis,   Ian Young's e-book - Erythroniums in Cultivation -  in pdf form - 278 pages in full colour - is  free to download via this link :

http://www.srgc.net/filessub/general/ERYTHRONIUMS-IN-CULTIVATION%20-2016-IanYoung.pdf

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