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Bulbs => Galanthus => Topic started by: Tim Harberd on February 03, 2021, 07:40:45 PM
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The mighty ‘Glenorma’ is only just clearing 50mm this year….. Mind you it had got rather overcrowded last season.. One of the problems of growing a vigorous cultivar!!
Once again about 10% of inflorescences show some fasciation .
I wonder whether any other cultivars will challenge Glenorma for sheer size this season.
Tim DH
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The snowdrop talk, via Zoom, by Anne Repnow that I posted about in Events is this Saturday, 6th February. You can book by following this link: https://www.plantheritage.org.uk/events/national/some-snowdrops-by-anne-repnow/ . It says the talk is open to members of the Hardy Plant Society, Plant Heritage and I have been informed that this has been extended to members of the CGS Snowdrop Group. I'm sorry that members of the SRGC have not been included but that's undoubtedly just an oversight and many of us are in multiple societies anyway.
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A peculiar snowdrop-flower discovered by my husband in a local wood two days ago.
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´John Long´
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´Trymlet
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A seedling of ´Trymlet´
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Not a perfect poc, but an early one.
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I love your "Gemini"-type snowdrop, Mariette. Does it manage to do that every year?
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Thank You, Alan - it´s certainly a very odd one my husband found last week . I do not expect it to perform like that again next year as the other flowers of that clone looked quite usual.
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Ah days, somehow I read years; I must have still been half a asleep. One year I found two clumps where all the flower scapes had produced twins. I took specimens and they have never done it since! Nor did I ever again find the original clumps.
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Galanthus 'Sutton Courtenay'
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Last minute, so I am posting it here. Forumist Tim Ingram will be speaking on snowdrops tomorrow evening: https://ngs.org.uk/shop/online-events/the-allure-of-snowdrops-live-online-talk-with-tim-ingram-tuesday-9th-february-7-00pm/
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Last minute, so I am posting it here. Forumist Tim Ingram will be speaking on snowdrops tomorrow evening: https://ngs.org.uk/shop/online-events/the-allure-of-snowdrops-live-online-talk-with-tim-ingram-tuesday-9th-february-7-00pm/
Still time to book for this talk - with a £10 donation to the National Garden Scheme - Tim and Gillian usually open their garden forthe Scheme, but of course .....covid happened!
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´John Long´
'John Long' is one of my favourites. It has increased quite slowly but it is so pretty when it flowers.
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Booked for this talk but unfortunately the link I was sent does not work. Hope I get my £10. back.
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Eventually found an email to message and was sent another link. I'll get the hang of these Zoom talks yet. It's not always obvious who to contact if things don't work.
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Diggory
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and Trymposter
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'John Long' is one of my favourites. It has increased quite slowly but it is so pretty when it flowers.
Here it´s a good doer, perhaps it likes my heavy soil.
This yellow Galanthus nivalis originated in Berlin and shows an excellent colouring right from the start, even in the green house, where others flowering now look a bit greenish: ´Frohnauer Gold´.
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Nice Yellow Mariette. I know what you mean about the greenish ones.
This little seedling is a bit of a curiosity… The label suggests it is Sandersii x Bertram Anderson. However, maybe nature beat me to pollinating its mother? My guess for the F1 of this cross would have been a large green flower. (Another possibility, of course, is that I mixed up the labels.)
Either way, its appearance was a pleasant surprise.
Tim DH
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Well, this one looks really promising! The flower seems to be much larger than ordinary G. nivalis, what would You say?
Occasionally I had the impression that sometimes ants transport seeds from one pot to another - at least I had no better explanation for some results.
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Short video from Phil Kay, head gardener at Ness Botanic Gardens on Snowdrops ....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVu5Q5CRmMc&feature=youtu.be
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Hi Mariette,
My promising seedling opened a bit wider in today's sunshine to reveal a decent sized mark. Proper yellow too!
Even at this first showing the flower is more substantial than any of my Sandersii, it's more like one of the Wandlebury yellows.... SO: Here's hoping for next year.
Tim DH
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Well, it really looks more like a yellow´Bertram Anderson´ than like any G. nivalis of the sandersii-group. I´d say it´s similar to ´Treasure Island´ in size and proportions, though Yours shows a receptacle better matching the flower. Perhaps ´Bertram Anderson´owns some hidden yellow genes? Is this the only seedling of this cross?
For comparison: ´Treasure Island´with ´Primrose Warburg´behind.
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If you would like to grow some other flowers to accompany your snowdrops it's not too late to book for a talk by Wim Boens on "Snowdrop's Companions". Details of this event and how to book are here: https://www.srgc.org.uk/forum/index.php?topic=18327.0
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Somebody's been pollinating... ;)
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Somebody's been pollinating... ;)
Well, either that or one of your minions is getting very destructive!
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Hi Mariette. Thanks for the comparison picture.
Sadly this was the only seedling.. My favourite Sandersii, (a relatively cheap and un-named one from Ivycroft!) only sets small pods.
I attach a photo of the mother plant.
Tim DH
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Well, that´s a very pretty form with its elongated receptacle! Obviously Your seedling ows it to its mother. :)
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It's amazing how quickly snowdrops bounce back after a wintery battering.. Here is PHD33463 in the open garden responding to the milder wind and a bit of sunshine.
Tim DH
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Our Estonian Spirit group are flowering very well this year, even in pots. It's interesting to compare the different clones.
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This is a seedling I've grown to love! Bred from Fieldgate Superb x South Hayes, the flowers are huge, and much earlier than its mother.
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Hi Anne,
That seedling looks seriously big.. I don’t have a petal length record for South Hayes, but I have Fieldgate Superb as 41mm and yours appear to be quite a bit longer than that. How long are they?
Tim DH
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I'll measure it.
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Galanthus nivalis in my garden right now - they are looking quite nice this year and bulking well.
I feel more confident now to try the fancy ones! :D
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I wanted to split up some clumps of Galanthus woronovii as they have clumped up nicely since I planted them. Only been in a couple of years too. However the bulbs were at least 9 inches down. The soil here is a very sludgy clay. What has me puzzled is that in our previous garden the bulbs were almost always no more than and inch or two underground. The soil there was a peaty silt. Seems odd the me that the bulbs here should work themselves down to that sort of depth and in such a short period of time too. So then I tried the other Galanthus too and they are also at that sort of depth.
Why?
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The bulbs of snowdrops tend to place themselves at a depth of soil where a reasonable humidity is provided for their needs. Perhaps You are gardening in an area where the soil is drier during summer?
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Hi Anne,
That seedling looks seriously big.. I don’t have a petal length record for South Hayes, but I have Fieldgate Superb as 41mm and yours appear to be quite a bit longer than that. How long are they?
Tim DH
37cm length of outer segments.
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I would say :
37 mm
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I would say :
37 mm
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Otherwise that is one seriously big snowdrop! :)
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Mrs Thompson is her usual batty self this year - so reliably unreliable!
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I would say :
37 mm
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HaHa! 37CM would be worth a name!
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A warm and sunny day today.
G. woronowii 'Elizabeth Harrison' just opend
G. 'Mother Goose'
G. 'Lowik'
G. 'Dryad Gold Nugget'
G. nivalis 'Ray Cobb'
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Rays of sunshine!
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Really nice pictures to compare different yellow snowdrops. I keep going back to 'Mother Goose', so sturdy shape and the contrast between green and yellow. :) Also 'Dryad Gold Nugget' is nice, these newer varieties seem to stand out from the older ones.
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G. 'Lowik'
Lowick, actually. It's a village in Northumberland, quite close to where I live. The local pronunciation is to rhyme the first syllable with "cow". I believe it was originated by Lady Catherine Erskine of Cambo near St. Andrews. I wonder what she was doing in a small village off the beaten track and south of the border?
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Of course, 'Lowick'. Thank's Alan for the background of the plant.
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HaHa! 37CM would be worth a name!
Hi Anne, Thanks for measuring.... On the subject of BIG flowers... You posted a massive 'Comet' back in March 2016 which had a petal length of 47mm.. Was that just a 'one off', or does your Comet regularly attain such size?
Tim DH
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I'll measure Comet too.
Meanwhile, E A Bowles is in full flower ( what a find by Michael Myers), and also three seedling clones from E A Bowles x The Bride. These are therefore plicatus x elwesii.
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Reporting back - Comet 36mm outer segments. Unnamed plicatus seedling from Taavi Tuulik 43mm.
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Galanthus x valentinei 'Strasbourg Twins'
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'Moby Dick' not really whale-sized, but has a nice expression
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'Melanie Broughton', an Anglesey Abbey snowdrop, named for Lord Fairhaven's younger daughter
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Meanwhile, E A Bowles is in full flower ( what a find by Michael Myers), and also three seedling clones from E A Bowles x The Bride. These are therefore plicatus x elwesii.
'E.A.Bowles' is one of my favourites, and your seedlings seem also very nice with round flowers.
Gail, it is nice that you write also some background of them. Snowdrops look so perfect when pictured on black background:).
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.... also three seedling clones from E A Bowles x The Bride. These are therefore plicatus x elwesii.
Nice clones, Anne; another great success from your breeding programme. Lets hope they have hybrid vigour.
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Slovenian galanthus from the Ljubljana Botanic garden
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Galanthus nivalis 'Veliki Progasti'
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Unnamed. Found by me. I think it is a hybrid between elwesii and gracilis.
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Lovely photos from your garden, Stefan!
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Thanks Maggi, I'm glad you like it!
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A nice find, Stefan!
Here are some more, now established in the garden.
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Galanthus elwesii ‘David Shackleton’ - one of the later flowering elwesii and a very good garden plant, building up well.
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I was enjoying watching a big Queen bumblebee doing some cross-pollinating for me today. She chose 'Miss Adventure' x rhizensis - not a cross I'd have thought of so I shall be interested to see what comes of it!
(Sorry Maggi I'm having trouble with my images again! ) edit by maggi - no worries Gail, makes me feel useful! Lovely snowdrop!
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One week of warm spring weather (last week we had -13°C, this week +18°C) has rushed all the snowdrops into full flowering. This is one of those years where the air in the garden is carrying a subtle perfume of snowdrop flowers.
And they are still spreading further in the garden & surroundings, single bulbs appear at new spots while some established large clumps still seem to double every year.
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Perfect whites:
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A find from the Austrian Danube forrests: a nivalis with shiny light green leaves
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That´s a nice find, Pauli! I´m very partial to snowdrops with green leaves!
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Nice snowdrops from everyone:).
Hannelore, your 'Anglesey Abbey' is so perfect. Mine (still under snow) hasn't been as perfect for some reason, maybe it needs time to settle.
Pauli, it must be wonderful to find such different snowdrops, lucky you!
Here are some more, now established in the garden.
I especially liked the one in the middle picture, very nice green tipped.
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Thank you all :)
Until my (most regular) snowdrops appear it is very nice to see these spring sceneries. Anglesey Abbey is a very beautiful and particular snowdrop, but I am not choosy -
I would want them all!
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Galanthus elwesii ‘David Shackleton’ - one of the later flowering elwesii and a very good garden plant, building up well.
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The marks on the inners are very much what I like! It´s good to learn that it grows well with You!
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Elwesi albino but I fear it’s caused by virus
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We are heading into the virescent time of year! One of my favourites is Hagen's 'Schmalhans im Grünen. It makes a great pot plant as it is so compact. Must try one in a trough.