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Re: Crevice Gardening ......in defence of rock.....
« Reply #795 on: May 08, 2014, 11:37:55 AM »
I agree, Ebbie.  It gets woody very quickly as it gets older and here, large sections of the older plants will die off in the spring.  But it makes a tremendous amount of seed and every year I will find a few seedlings from the left-over seed I didn't collect.
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« Reply #796 on: May 08, 2014, 11:59:00 AM »
Penstemon nitidus looks to be lovely little plant Anne and not one that seems to be freely available in the UK.
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« Reply #797 on: May 08, 2014, 12:15:01 PM »
Penstemon nitidus looks to be lovely little plant Anne and not one that seems to be freely available in the UK.
I having been sending seed for it to the seedex since I joined, so keep an eye out for it!
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« Reply #798 on: May 08, 2014, 12:31:24 PM »
Thanks for that Lori, will do.
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« Reply #799 on: May 08, 2014, 05:38:02 PM »
Today in the crevice garden:
-Carduncellus rhaponticoides
-Thymus richardii ssp. nitidus 'Peter Davis'
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« Reply #800 on: May 08, 2014, 10:36:22 PM »
The Carduncellus is beautiful.  Where did you get the seed?
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« Reply #801 on: May 09, 2014, 07:46:47 AM »
The Carduncellus never makes seeds here. My plant was grown from "Wurzelschnittlingen" (sorry, I don't know the English word. I mean pieces of the root). That should work without problems.
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« Reply #802 on: May 09, 2014, 08:00:23 AM »
The Carduncellus never makes seeds here. My plant was grown from "Wurzelschnittlingen" (sorry, I don't know the English word. I mean pieces of the root). That should work without problems.


Root cuttings, Ebbie.
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« Reply #803 on: May 09, 2014, 08:20:39 AM »
Oh yes -  root cuttings. Very simple. Thanks Cliff.
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« Reply #804 on: May 09, 2014, 06:23:10 PM »
Pictured today in my nearest equivalent of a crevice bed:-

Scutellaria indica
Erigeron chrysopsidis 'Grand Ridge'
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« Reply #805 on: May 09, 2014, 08:31:52 PM »
Love the erigeron, David, but I wasn't very good at getting it to stay permanently.
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« Reply #806 on: May 09, 2014, 08:34:48 PM »
I have the same experience, Anne - I've tried it a number of times and couldn't ever keep it any longer than 2 or 3 years... I was wondering if it is short lived ??
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Re: Crevice Gardening ......in defence of rock.....
« Reply #807 on: May 09, 2014, 09:20:51 PM »
Today in the crevice garden:
-Carduncellus rhaponticoides

Ebbie, Carduncellus are wonderful plants. The plant you showed is probably Carduncellus pinnatus, which is flowering here too. The (in my eyes) real C. rhaponticoides I have never seen the last ? 30 years when I lost it somehow. I know that Eugen Schleipfer has sold the plant you showed under this name several years ago.
Here a pic. from an old dia of the original Carduncellus rhaponticoides.
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« Reply #808 on: May 10, 2014, 08:43:33 AM »
I have the same experience, Anne - I've tried it a number of times and couldn't ever keep it any longer than 2 or 3 years... I was wondering if it is short lived ??

In his "Alpine Plants of North America" Graham Nicholls says it is prone to sudden collapse and his have never lasted more than 3/4 years. He says it is easy from cuttings though.
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« Reply #809 on: May 10, 2014, 08:49:47 AM »
Ebbie, Carduncellus are wonderful plants. The plant you showed is probably Carduncellus pinnatus, which is flowering here too. The (in my eyes) real C. rhaponticoides I have never seen the last ? 30 years when I lost it somehow. I know that Eugen Schleipfer has sold the plant you showed under this name several years ago.
Here a pic. from an old dia of the original Carduncellus rhaponticoides.

Thank you Luit. You are right. It is certainly the prickly and feathered Carduncellus pinnatus (maybe forma acaulis). It is also true that the plant I purchased from Eugen Schleipfer years ago.
Eberhard P., Landshut, Deutschland, Niederbayern
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