Scottish Rock Garden Club Forum
Bulbs => Galanthus => Topic started by: Brian Ellis on February 18, 2015, 10:07:02 AM
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Idly looking through eBay (as you do) I noticed that North Green have a G.'Mother Goose' in the auction. It is of no doubt that it is a handsome snowdrop with a green receptacle and yellow marks (grym).
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This set me to wondering how many other snowdrops like this there are and putting the old grey matter into action I came up with a few. I have borrowed a few pictures from round the forum to save getting the camera out I hope the owners don't mind (besides I don't have many of them)! G.’Blonde Inge’ immediately springs to mind
[attach=2](Chas’s picture), as does G.’Chadwick’s Cream’
[attach=3](Rob Marshall's picture) and G.’Ilse Bilse’
[attach=4](Hagen’s picture) - I then remembered Snow Clock’s picture of G.’Robert Wijnen'
[attach=5]can anyone add to the list?
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Lady Elphinstone.
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Of course! Silly me, any more Anne?
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What a very interesting little collection. When I knew much less about snowdrops than I do now I wrote about some nice possible pairings and one was 'Chadwick's Cream' with 'Blewbury Tart' and another 'Big Boy' with 'Long Tall Sally'. What a good fun article in a newspaper you could have with these plants with a little imagination ;)
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I think the most interesting thing Tim, is that it is a little collection when you see all the possibilites with various yellows, poculiforms, greens, pterugiforms etc Perhaps more are in the pipeline. I like the pairings and might have to move my 'Blewbury Tart' and 'Long Tall Sally' !
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There's Hagen's Schorbuser Irlicht (I might have spelled that wrongly).
Tim, you've set me thinking now...
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'Schorbuser Irrlicht' will feature in the next IRG - in Hagen's article on greens..... online on the 27th February .....
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Loving the photo's and the information on these different drops, I know it is a big ask but does anyone know of any commercial grower that does Chadwick's Cream or is it only in private collections now - I know there was one or two sold on Ebay last year by Joe but since then not seen anything. thanks so much in advance if anyone can help out. I spoke with Joe at Shaftesbury and we were discussing 'Yellow ' drops and I asked how easy was it to keep McKenzie - he said he knew of only a couple of clumps that have done well, so no matter what, it might not make it forgot to ask about Chadwick's Cream though.
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As far as I know you will be exceedingly lucky to clap eyes on 'Chadwick's Cream' let alone get hold of one. It is one of those snowdrops which is exceedingly slow to increase, taking ages to produce a side bulb and I have heard of it being chipped with no success once. From what I have heard recently I think it is unlikely that one will appear on eBay this year - although I hope I am proved wrong in that. I don't think there are many people growing it even now, although I do know of one successful attempt at propagation.
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By the way it wasn't Joe selling it on eBay it was farmhouse500.
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Sounds more like a group to me Brian.... ;D. ;D. ;D
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My single flower of CHADWICK'S CREAM.
Very slowly plant.
Small flower
Unique color
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My single flower of CHADWICK'S CREAM.
Very slowly plant.
Small flower
Unique color
beautiful Hagen - well done on growing this one, I know your collection and breeding is brilliant from what I have read on this forum, you are an inspiration to us newbies and a wonderful source of information - thank you
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My single flower of CHADWICK'S CREAM.
Very slowly plant.
Small flower
Unique color
...and I would add that it is a small plant Hagen, or is that because mine is young?
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Brian, I believe CC is always a small plant. I got the bulb 2013, now there is the real fine first flower.
Colineddie1, I'm only a hopeless kind of galanthophile. :)
Here is another fine BLONDE INGE-type, waiting for a suitable name
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Brian, I believe CC is always a small plant. I got the bulb 2013, now there is the real fine first flower.
Colineddie1, I'm only a hopeless kind of galanthophile. :)
Here is another fine BLONDE INGE-type, waiting for a suitable name
Golden Hagen ;D
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Here is Hagen's DAS GELBE VOM EI from another thread. How could I have forgotten that Hagen - I must be getting old ;)
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Very beautiful, Brian and Hagen. I have a garden full of snowdrops at the moment but nothing like any of these except for the tiny 'Blonde Inge' which came from Ann Borrill. These and Hagen's virescent-virescent snowdrops open up a whole new world to explore but methinks I shall have to be patient and look long to discover them!
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Good to see that Galanthus nivalis 'Das Gelbe vom Ei' was given a preliminary commendation by Joint Rock at Loughborough. Congratulations Hagen ;D
http://www.alpinegardensociety.net/discussion/atshows//Loughborough+Show+th+March/19865/?page=3 (http://www.alpinegardensociety.net/discussion/atshows//Loughborough+Show+th+March/19865/?page=3)
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Off topic, but I have often wondered what the process is of submitting a plant to the Joint Rock. can anyone enlighten me?
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........ I have often wondered what the process is of submitting a plant to the Joint Rock. can anyone enlighten me?
I will try to help .... RE : "Joint Rock", the joint RHS, AGS, SRGC plant Committee.... here is a link ( below) an article : "The Mysterious Joint Rock Committee" from the Rock Garden journal of the SRGC from 1990 by Lyn Bezzant (who was at that time the SRGC Secretary to the committee) This may be helpful to those who know little about it....
'The Mysterious Joint Rock Committee ' by Lyn Bezzant , article from "The Rock Garden" -
http://files.srgc.net/journals/TheMysteriousJointRockCommittee_LynBezzant.pdf (http://files.srgc.net/journals/TheMysteriousJointRockCommittee_LynBezzant.pdf)
You can discover from the Show Schedules those shows at which the Joint Rock will meet. At those shows, plants which will be submitted to the committee are usually also entered in the show, though I believe that is not necessarily a prerequisite. The show secretary will provide a form for you to fill in the details of your plant and there is also a card which tells the JRGPC secretary which class the plant is in, so it may be retrieved from the show bench to be taken to the committee room for assessment at the appointed time. Care is usually taken to keep the plants from the benches- and the viewing audience, for as short a time as possible. After the committee has reached its conclusions, a card stating that an award is pending will be placed with the plant, back on the show bench - that's in in a nutshell, read Lyn's article- it is some years old and some minor changes have been made to the make up of what is still referred to as "joint rock" but the article is still relevant. :)
The current Scottish Secretary of the committee is Carole Bainbridge - also the SRGC President.
I'll give this it's own topic too, under "Shows" for future reference.
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Thanks Maggi, that is most interesting, I'd always wondered too ;D
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Maggie
Could you check the link you gave please, it won't connect me.... Thanks,
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Yes, Steve, the link has gone wrong but if you copy the bit as far as .pdf then paste into the web browser address bar it will work.
On a PC:
Highlight the text
Hold down the Control (Ctrl) key and press c to copy
Hold down the Control (Ctrl) key and press v to paste
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Sorry, hadn't spotted that the link had been compromised in the text. Thanks for the advice to get round the error, Alan - fixed now. and here it is again :
http://files.srgc.net/journals/TheMysteriousJointRockCommittee_LynBezzant.pdf (http://files.srgc.net/journals/TheMysteriousJointRockCommittee_LynBezzant.pdf)
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The article was very interesting as these organizations and awards are often referred to on the forum and in the Bishop book. As someone on the outside looking in, I find it very confusing especially when acronyms are used. Are all the awards mentioned in the article still in use and where does an AGM fit into the scheme?
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You can read more about the AGM - Award of Garden Merit - on the RHS website.
In the past the various committees of the RHS could make that award when a plant was well-known to be og good constitution in a garden setting - but now such awards are made after trials in the likes of Wisley or Harlow Carr. Not ideal since the conditions there are not typical of all climates in the UK - which is where these awards are primarily aimed.
Over the last while "old" awards have been reviewed ( and then confirmed or rescinded ) by circulation of lists to committees to vote for the best plants. Preponderance of southern opinions is, again, not always helpful to growers in more rigorous climates!
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I have copied the last couple of posts- (Carolyn's and my reply to her ) to the relevant thread on the main part of the forum :
http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=12924.msg327404#msg327404 (http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=12924.msg327404#msg327404)
I would appreciate it if further comments on the matter were to be made there, since they are likely to be of interest to a wider audience and not only to galanthophiles! :)