Juno (Scorpiris) season 2012

[Janis Ruksans]

Just got unpleasant news from Tony Hall - DNA research found that plant which I and Zhirair and someone else grew (and were very proud of it) as Iris atropatana - really is only Iris pseudocaucasica. It is allways very poor feeling when you see that plant which you supposed as great rarity turns nothing very special and really is quite common. But pseudocaucasica isn't too often offered in catalogues. So it isn't reason to fall in depression. Keep smiling!
Janis
Just found that name under picture remained atropatana - it must be corrected to pseudocaucasica.

edit by maggi: photo file renamed

[PeterT]

What are the features which seperate them Janis?

[Janis Ruksans]

What are the features which seperate them Janis?

I didn't saw true atropatana and turned that I haven't it. Up to last Friday I supposed that mine is true. It was said that difference is in shape of falls. I suppose that true plant must be in Kew because Tony wrote me: 
"the two I. atropatana you kindly sent me from Armenia 2 years ago, are both Armenian Iris pseudocaucasica and not true I. atropatana, which is a very different taxon."
Janis

[PeterT]

I have just been reading his paper but apart from his placing autropatana in the follwing group: postii, caucasica, nezahataie, caucasica turcica, hymenospata leptoneura, persica, edomensis, autropatana, hymenospata, fosteriana, pseudocaucasica;  fosteriana and pseudocaucasica are sisters, and cousins to the rest of this group,  I have written the names in the sequence that they appear on the chart, I haven't worked out the physical diferences between the two species from the paper yet.

[PeterT]

First Juno in flower for me this year was a surprise - Iris Sindpers, given to me by a very kind forumist in 2010.

[art600]

Janis

Even though your Juno turned out not to be rare, the plant is a stunner and so different from most pseudocaucasica.

[PeterT]

I like it too Art, and to me a different form of a species is a different plant!

[David Nicholson]

First Juno in flower for me this year was a surprise - Iris Sindpers, given to me by a very kind forumist in 2010.

Very nice Peter. It looks as though Warlsind is going to be my first.

[Janis Ruksans]

Janis

Even though your Juno turned out not to be rare, the plant is a stunner and so different from most pseudocaucasica.

Mostly we know Turkish pseudocaucasicas which are quite uniform, but in earlier "soviet" Talish they are very variable by color. Unfortunately I lost them in "pre-greenhouse" period. The plants from Iranian side are similar to their neighbours North of border and quite variable, too.
Janis

[Janis Ruksans]

Well, on that report, mine is going straight to the compost pile!

I wish you more tolerance...
Janis

[ian mcenery]

Some lovely plants on this thread

Here is one of mine flowering at the moment Iris nicolai

[Tony Willis]

Naw,
Not harsh at all.    I've only got so much space, and alot of Junos.    I'll find some little corner  in the greenhouse for I.
pseudocaucasica, but not front bench.
Hello eveyone.

Welcome,the answer here is surely to give it to somebody who would like it. 'If it is spare then share'

[Janis Ruksans]

Some lovely plants on this thread

Here is one of mine flowering at the moment Iris nicolai

Seems that it is Varzob form?
Janis

[PeterT]

Lovely Ian.
 Tony I was considering whether to jump in on this; Iris pseuducaucassica is quite uncommon and no less desirable for it's name correction. It is just as lovely as it was a week ago!

[ian mcenery]

Some lovely plants on this thread

Here is one of mine flowering at the moment Iris nicolai

Seems that it is Varzob form?
Janis

Janis the plant originated I believe from Pilous I know no more than this. Perhaps you can say more?