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J.Ian Young (Iyoung)
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Posted on Tuesday, March 01, 2005 - 5:51 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The snow is back in Aberdeen today so I have no picture but I thought I would open the March thread.
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Posted on Tuesday, March 01, 2005 - 6:39 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

When I have time will post a couple of pix from alpine house
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Talking of snow, can we persuade Mark Smyth to get out into the snow and identify that crafty celandine doing a clever soldanella impression the pic of which he posted somewhere recently?.He can persuade snowdrops to let him peep inside their petals so maybe he can at least get a hint of the inner colour of the petals of the celandine
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Posted on Tuesday, March 01, 2005 - 7:30 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

some goodies from my weekend away
Narcissus longispathus


Narcissus pallidiflorus


Narcissus 'Navarre' ex Primrose Warburg


Ashwood Hellebore


Ashwood Hellebore

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Posted on Tuesday, March 01, 2005 - 7:34 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

what snow?

Gwen is it the blue backed Celandine you are refering to?

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Posted on Tuesday, March 01, 2005 - 8:21 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The sun is shining in Blackpool and a few more plants have raised their heads.

Scilla greilhuberi seems to have more than its fair share of leaves at first but when they begin to recline to leave the flower stems proud it is not such a problem.
It really pays to have a closer look at the individual flowers because they have reflexed petals and beautiful navy blue anthers






The second is a freebie having started life in the plunge (they do seem to grow more quickly there) and then potted. I think it must be Fritillaria pudica which is the only small yellow that I have grown near there (no doubt someone will correct me if it is wrongly named).



Lastly Saxifraga burseriana Gloria growing in a piece of tufa on top of a sink garden

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Posted on Tuesday, March 01, 2005 - 9:18 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

John,

That scilla is rather speccy.... looks wonderful in closeup. The Fritillaria is just so elegant.... I've only have any of the yellows flower for me once or twice and thoroughly enjoyed them as they do seem to have a bit more elegance than many of the frits.

Mark, that last Hellebore is stunning!! What a colour combination with that dark throat. Would certainly stand out in the crowd.

Paul T. Canberra, Australia
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Posted on Tuesday, March 01, 2005 - 10:05 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mark, the pic you posted of an un-named R fic bud pushing up through the snow showed a soft bluish grey reverse if I recall. I'm dashed if I can find it now.
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Posted on Tuesday, March 01, 2005 - 11:59 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Gwen all my plants were, note were, all labelled. Some are now missing including that one. I'll have a hoke tomorrow.

Peeps I have quit Q&B so no more tips.
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Posted on Wednesday, March 02, 2005 - 8:24 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Just so you kow how favoured you are.
We had -16C in the night and yesterday the warmest temperature was -5.8. This is in town. Our main garden is 3-6 degrees colder. Since we had a mild January and first half of February I expect many plants that have been lured to start too early to die.
Spring with all Hepaticas is in April in my place.
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Posted on Wednesday, March 02, 2005 - 8:32 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Gosh Mark how are we all going to cope without your insider advice? Hope you have another job to go to.
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Posted on Wednesday, March 02, 2005 - 2:49 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Here is Primula allionii which we had hoped to take to Edinburgh Show! Mind you if it stays as coldas this we might just be able to

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Posted on Wednesday, March 02, 2005 - 10:01 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Carol,

Glorious!! I would so love to get to one of your shows to see some of these things in the flesh. We just don't grow anything in displays like you lot do up there for the alpines etc. The pics from the shows really blow me away. I am looking forward to the show threads as discussed somewhere else for the various shows as they come through, even if it is going to make me jealous and wistful! LOL

Paul T. Canberra, Australia.
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Posted on Wednesday, March 02, 2005 - 10:19 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Paul
Suspect I could make you very jealous if I showed some of our other primulas. But then we can't grow a lot of the stuff you grow. The Inverness Group had a great talk tonight by Julia Cordon on the Bernes Oberland - reminds me why we need to go back there - but there are so many other areas to explore and, at present, a limited amount of holiday time!
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Posted on Thursday, March 03, 2005 - 12:29 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I know I'm about to repeat a query from last year but can someone ID this Narcissus bought as romieuxii. It grows very well outside in one of my raised beds. Every year it's getting better. This the first of many flowers.
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Posted on Thursday, March 03, 2005 - 10:44 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Carol,

I am sure you WOULD make me very jealous.... so PLEASE go right ahead. I'd definitely love to see them, either here or maybe you'd rather put them into the Primula area? I really would love to see more of them.... they are just things I don't see here. Some of them would likely grow here, they just aren't available much down here unless you know someone who has them.

Paul T. Canberra, Australia.
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ok paul as they flower will put up on monthly thread - easier for most folks. Will try to get a few pix over weekend. Snow gone again, thank God!
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Posted on Thursday, March 03, 2005 - 7:48 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Carol
Can I ditto Paul's plea to make us jealous, seeing their pictures is only second best to seeing them in the flesh.
Paul
Keep yours coming also for the same reasons plus the fact that we get '2 bites of the cherry' that is 2 seasons in one.
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Posted on Thursday, March 03, 2005 - 8:00 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Will do John, we get to almost all of the Scottish Shows so will take lots of pix for the Show Thread - and hope at least some are ok!
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Posted on Thursday, March 03, 2005 - 8:16 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm just wondering if everyone is aware of the Show Area elsewhere on this site where informal reports and assorted pix of interest are archived from previous years' SRGC shows? Look for the link from the SRGC Homepage for SHOW REPORTS. I don't think Sandy has got anything on for the early Bulb day, yet, from 2005, but there are plenty old reports to interest you, I hope!
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Posted on Thursday, March 03, 2005 - 11:01 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Maggi
There is a new thread under SRGC show questions which is now receiving posts of shows - as us mere mortals can not post to Show pages - seems to be a good way forward
Carol
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Posted on Friday, March 04, 2005 - 12:51 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi All,
Some more pictures from my 'alpine house'. Firstly, the very small Crocus sieberi discussed in February has opened in the sunshine, as you can see I've also spent 4p since last week!:



And here is another view of Corydalis 'Hotlips'. As I mentioned last week the red colouration is not evenly distributed, especially on the spurs. This makes the flowers look a bit untidy. This effect does vary from year to year, last year it looked good but this year it is back to being scruffy.



On to less hardy subjects: this is Gladiolus scullyi from South Africa. The flower is resting on a leaf from the Ranunculus asiaticus growing behind it:



Also from South Africa, this is one of the 700+ species of Cape Heaths, Erica monsoniana. This species flowers in autumn and these flowers are the last few stragglers of the season, the flower is about 15mm long. I've now cut the plant back hard to keep it compact. Two of the spring species are about to open so watch this space.



Hope to see some of you at Blackpool next week but Susan and I are going to take the plunge and go to the Perth show in April so I guess more of you will be there?
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Posted on Friday, March 04, 2005 - 6:05 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Darren
We wont be at Blackpool, too far to drive when we are both working but we definitely expect to be at Perth. Maybe all us active forum members need to wear badges so we can identify each other! Or put pix up on that thread in general alpines.
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Several Ipheions have begun to bloom in the garden and alpine house.
The ordinary I. uniflora which increases readily. The book says that the bulbs and leaves smell of onion and the flower of soap but I can only detect the onion.




Secondly is the form, which I bought and have grown for 20 odd years as I. Wisley Blue. I am less and less sure of the true names of bulbs in my collection particularly those from garden centres.




Next is I. Rolf Fiedler which I bought and grew in the alpine house before planting out. It had sent out a ‘runner’ through the drain hole into the plunge and I forgot about it until leaves and now a flower wre produced.



I had the next as I. Froyle Mill .


I. Alberto Castillo I got from a certain member who produces something called the Bulb Log and so I think its provenance is assured.




Lastly I received as Beauvardia sellowiana which is now subsumed under Ipheion. This is the only one for which my inadequate nose can detect a perfume, which although it has a diminutive stature has a lovely sweet scent.


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Anthony, you mentioned the possibility of seed from Gentiana depressa. It's still a little early to be quite certain, but I think there could be half a dozen capsules forming on my plant. Whether they'll develop and actually contain seed remains to be seen but if they do, would you like some? Won't be much.
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Hello John F.I am really taken by your "untidy' Corydalis 'hotlips'.Does it come true from seed? and if so do you want to swop seed ,say for some fresh collected Ranunculus aff. haastii seed. Dave
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Just realised my message above should have been adressed to Darren S. Anyhow can either of you two guys help me .Dave
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Posted on Saturday, March 05, 2005 - 2:33 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Saxifraga struggling with their dayly portion of snow.

Saxifraga ferdinandi coburgi - self sown on a tufa lump - 5 years old and flowering for the first time : Hurray !!
S. ferdinandi coburgi

Saxifraga Nottingham gold - suffering from slugs (or is it something else ?) - even in this weather
S. Nottingham gold


Finally Saxifraga "Gelber Findling" peeping through its snow cover
S. "Gelber findling"

Hoping for more sun soon !
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Posted on Saturday, March 05, 2005 - 3:48 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Just for Paul a pix. of P. tantalon - more soon



Weather forecast was not good for today but it has been great - we even ate lunch sitting on the patio (and yes I was well wrapped up!). The birds were actullay glad when we went away as they are mobbing the feeders right now. We are goingthrough sunflower seed at an amazing rate but the peanut are going much more slowly - is anyone else experiencing this?
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Carol, At the risk of turning this into an RSPB thread, yes, here in Cumbria we cannot get birds to eat peanuts at this time of year but sunflower seeds are flavour of the month. The waxwings have cleared all the rowans berries and departed but the odd Bullfinch is lurking about the blossom buds
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Posted on Saturday, March 05, 2005 - 9:18 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Carol,

Thank you so much. The effect of the perfect rosette of leaves with the bunch of flowers nestled in the centre is just wonderful!! I am green!! (but enjoying it! LOL)

Paul T. Canberra, Australia.
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Posted on Saturday, March 05, 2005 - 9:21 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

John,

I like your Ipheion collection..... do you have 'Charlotte Bishop' as well? That is the pink one. A definite addition to any collection as it is just so different and unexpected a colour.

Isn't your "normal" Ipheion uniflorum blue over there? The picture you post of the standard one (with the comment about onions and soap) is white..... our common one here is the spidery blue.

Paul T. Canberra, Australia.
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Lesley. Would be delighted to receive some of the Gentiana depressa seed. Thanks.

Here's some blooming in garden and greenhouse today. Cold but sunny enough for some of the Dunblane folk to hang their washing out!

Crocus etruscus in the garden.

Crocus etruscus

Crocus chrysanthus which I bought as C. korolkowii 'Golden Nugget' and is still flowering away.

Crocus chrysanthus

Two Hermodactylus tuberosus from different sources.

Hermodactylus tuberosus 1

Hermodactylus tuberosus 2

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here's a pot of Narcissus romieuxii from our Alpine House this week:
N romieuxii 2

N romieuxii 1



and here is my version of "pest control": Drosera alicae. This year I kept this pot right next to the pots of bulbs, and it really seems to have kept the aphids in check!

drosera alicae
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here's my front garden without the snow cover


Narcissus minor var pumilis plenus with a not so nice cultivar name 'Rip Van Winkle'. Seen here in immature form
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Following on from John's Ipheion postings here is an interesting colour form a stray seedling in a pot of Ipheion 'Froyle Mill'.
 Ipheion 'Froyle Mill'
I quite like it and the only way I am going to get it out is to tip the pot out before the flowers fade.
 Ipheion seedling
I think it is worth the effort.
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Paul
I don't know I. Charlotte Bishop, do you have a picture? The pale I. uniflora is just what I originally started off with milennia ago. I do have some others in pale blue but aren't in flower now.
Ian
your purple stripe one is very attractive.
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oe tie a wee piece of string around the flowering stems
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Posted on Sunday, March 06, 2005 - 9:59 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

John,

This is a pic of Ipheion 'Charlotte Bishop' (this pic was taken in my garden in late July).


Ipheion 'Charlotte Bishop'

She is very variable in colour, starting the season as a rather washed out pinky white and intensifying in colour the warmer it gets. At the end of her season she is almost electric pink. The pic doesn't accurately show her colour at that time of the season... she really is a strong hot pink without so many of the mauve undertones present in this pic.

I have found this year for some reason she has come back into full growth (even a flower) at the moment in the middle of summer. Not quite sure why she has done it, but if it gives me a better clump then I'm happy about it as I have only had her for a few years.

Cheers.

Paul T. Canberra, Australia
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Hurrah for the SRGC seed distribution and an especial hurrah for Margaret and Henry Taylor who collected the seed in this case. I think that true Narcissus cantabricus is one of the nicest winter/early spring bulbs.

Narcissus cantabricus ssp cantabricus

And just in case you aren't convinced - a close-up.
Narcissus cantabricus ssp cantabricus

Narcissus minor 'Douglas Bank'
Narcissus minor 'Douglas Bank'
Narcissus minor 'Douglas Bank' is another narcissus here with Scottish connections. Can anyone enlighten me as to just how it differs from the form sold as 'Midget'?

Narcissus jacetanus
Narcissus jacetanus is sometimes talked of as a larger form of Narcissus asturiensis - what do others here think? Ian showed us a nice pic of this recently, I have some in the garden where they do quite well ... despite the snow.

Amana edulis
Amana edulis usually flowers in January, getting rather drawn in the dull winter days. At the Harlow show recently it drew favourable comments from the judges for being so compact. At least the cold weather has done me some good!
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Posted on Monday, March 07, 2005 - 8:51 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Tony what are Amana related to? It's good to see you out of the Crocus pages.

Here are some Narcissus from my garden.

my 'Candlepower' (4"/10cm) is the real one as it has now faded to off white


'Gipsy Queen' 3"/8cm


'Jack Snipe' wrongly labelled last month as 'WP Milner'


'Midget' 3"/8cm


'Small Talk' 5"/13cm
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What lovely narcissi - Candlepower especially. Here's a better pic of 'Jim Lad' for you Mark.Narcissus 'Jim Lad'
Sorry I made sure size was less that 600mm and dropped dpi to 50 but it's still too big - help!
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You know I've never really liked many hybrid narcissi until seeing some of the pictures on here. 'Jim Lad' is particularly nice. I also like the 'X susannae' types re-created by the Youngs. I'd love to do this but my triandrus don't flower till well after the last cantabricus has gone over. I've made my own 'minicycla' but have had no flowers yet.
Don't know if Corydalis 'Hotlips' is fertile, being a hybrid, but I can try selfing it Dave - will let you know how I get on as I'd definitely like some of the Ranunculus seed.
Hope to meet you at Perth Carol (and David of course), I've seen your pictures in show reports etc. Not sure I want to put my own picture up on here as it might scare persons of sensitive disposition. At Blackpool I'll be the grumpy looking bloke in his thirties manning the members plant stall. At Perth I'll be the grumpy looking bloke in his thirties wandering about looking lost.
Now then - on to some flowers.

Ophrys tenthredinifera:






Another Cape Gladiolus - G.caeruleus. A lovely pale blue and scented as well:



This is a confused Cyclamen purpurascens!



Finally - a high altitude alpine cushion plant member of the succulent Mesembryanthemum family. There are, of course, numerous hardy yellow Delosperma in cultivation with confused nomenclature. This is something different; Delosperma sphalmanthoides is from the high mountains of the Winter rainfall area of South Africa and seems cold hardy. Introduced by Steven Hammer it has been distributed in the UK by Terry Smale who also submitted it to the Joint Rock when it got a PC a few years ago. This needs moisture all year round but definitely goes semi-dormant in summer. The flower buds become visble in December and I find that excessive dryness after this point leads to poor flower development. The plant is in a 15cm pot if you are wondering about scale. There is a close-up of the flowers underneath, by the end of the week I will expect them to cover the foliage. Bad news is that nothing will persuade the flowers to open before very late morning - after the show jufges have been round!



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Darren email sent 10 mins. ago requesting your postal details .Dave
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Paul
Thanks for the pic of Charlotte, she's a bonny lass( I think my Scottish ancestry is beginning to show) I will look out for it over here.
Tony, Anne & Darren
I love the N.cantabricus and Jim Lad. I do have a soft spot for Ophrys and that Gladiolus is v. beautiful
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Anne the photo is 894 pixels wide. The one you sent to me is 1169 pixels wide. I've just edited them for you and emailed them back for your own use. I'll call you too.
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guess what? My 'Jack Snipe' is actually 'Little Beauty'. Thanks Anne.
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sings "bring me sunshine, everyday ..."

Anemone blanda


Anemone blanda 'White Splendor'


Eranthus cilicius
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Mark,

Lovely pics!! I have bought Anemone blanda 'White Splendour' this summer, so hopefully I'll have some nice flowers like that this coming season.

Darren,

I love that Ophrys.... and the Gladiolus is wonderful. I've heard of the species before but I've never seen it in person unfortunately. I love the smaller species so much better than the big florist types. Some of the species like G. uysiae and the various forms of alatus (all now given their own species names) are just so intricate in their colourations. The one you showed looks to have some lovely shadings and spottings as well. It must be beautiful!!

Paul T. Canberra, Australia.
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Thanks to Mark for showing me how to post small pix! Here's one to practice with - Narcissus cyclamineus x asturiensis 'Sidora'
Narcissus 'Sidora'
HMMM bit fuzzy...
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Mark - Amana are sometimes referred to tulipa. As the habit and bulb are very similar this makes sense, in fact I am probably just a bit behimd the times! Mind you the pesky judges at Harlow did not correct me and they are wont to let exhibitors know if a plant is misnamed!
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A thread last month looked at Dionysia aretioides 'Bevere'. Here are two forms showing the 'pin' and 'thrum' styles that are required for good seed set.
Dionysia aretioides 'Bevere' - thrum
Dionysia aretioides dark seedling - pin
The upper one is Bevere, the lower a seedling from Bevere crossed with another form. Perhaps I will get some more seed this year. Mind you recovering it from within the expanding cushion is a good game!
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Just a couple of pics
Calochortus uniflorus seed collected California. I love the lilac anthers and the frilly throat.



and a little Sisyrinchium douglasii which I thought I had lost.

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Really nice pix. thanks John
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Just to show, that I grow more than only Crocus, here is an Iris Bucharica.


And a beautiful mutation of Eranthis Hyemalis with frayed petals.
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These are especially for Lesley who has been missing her fix of pix.! Sun came out and even though I have some grotty virus I felt I aught to take a few photos for her (and everyone else too!)

This is the first flower in a pan of seedling F. kotschyana



and I got himself to hold the flower up so you can see the inside which I think is fantastic especially those green dots at the base of the petals



We grew this we pan of C. libanoticum from SRGC seed - again this is the first flower. I just love how reflexed the petals are



And finally for those of you who don't know what goes into getting a plant ready for the show bench. We are hoping (she says with crossed fingers) to put the P. allionii Warfdale Splendid to Edinburgh Show

This is how it looked when I took it out of the plunge



and after half an hour of me removing all the dead foliage I could see



It will get checked again before Saturday, the pot will be cleaned up and it will receive a new top dressing.

Mind you I have to confess that I sometimes wonder why the judges expect us to produce plants in pristine condition! They NEVER look like that in the wild!}
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ah, those were the days - hours spent with tweezers picking leaves off P. allionii and getting stuck to everything! I eventually found a quick wipe of fingers and forceps with meths made things non-sticky for another 10 minutes or so. A lot of ooops cuttings were made at the same time... My primulas eventually went to someone with more space and patience. Best of luck at the show Carol!
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I bought some luvverly Primulas during the week. I hope they live OK in my troughs. Feel free to comment.
P. x minera
P. allionii 'Edinburgh'
P. allionii 'Wharfdale Superb'
Androsace carnea ssp. brigantiaca 'Nana'

I like the way 'Gipsy Queen' gets better with age.


Muscari psuedomuscari


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Mark we would not risk any P. allionii outdoors, ours stay in the alpine house all year round even when most of the other primulas are on the outside staging. P x Minera is a naturally occuring cross between P. allionii and P. marginata and can have the characteristics of either parent - I would keep inside for a year to see how it behaves.
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what if I plant them at the back of the troughs which don't get rained on due to the over hang of the sun room roof?
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Mark
I have grown P allionii hybrids outside with just a pane of glass over them in winter. Bit of a fag though putting them over individual plants on the rock garden but your overhang may well do the trick. Why not risk one for the first season and see how it gets on.
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Mark I don't know, the hybrids would cope but pure P. allionii I am not sure. If you can be certain they will get no overhead wet, at any time of the year it is worth a try - me I'm keeping mine safe in the alpine house.
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Continuing my move out of the Crocus pages (yes Mark - I do grow other things too!)

Narcissus 'John Wall'
Narcissus 'John Wall' was acquired as 'Queen of Spain' which it is not! I remember a forum discussion last year on the subject - will the real Queen of Spain please stand up!

Fritillaria stenanthera
Just to prove that there are similarities between the aberdeen climate and that here in Norfolk (?400 miles south?) here is a seedling Fritillaria stenanthera flowering for the first time today. Ian has shown the same plant at the same state in aberdeen in the last week.
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Tony that Narcissus is lovely. Is it a miniature? Ian young grows 'Queen of Spain' which I got from him last year and is open but the outer petals are still pointing forward.
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A yellow tipped form of Leucojum vernum in the rain.

Leucojum vernum
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Little note for Anthony. I can't remember which thread we talked about my pink auricula, P.a. `Rose Window.' No matter. I occurs to me that now might be a good time to send it. They're looking very lush and green with new growth which should take off well in your spring. What do you think?

If you're happy with this, let me know your postal address and also how you'd like it packed and labelled. Presumably bare-rooted? and maybe squeezed out damp spaghnum round the roots, the whole thing in cling film? Hobby material? Botanical specimen? They're blooming again but probably that should be trimmed for posting.
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One or 2 more flowers have made a show.

This primula was grown from seed exchange as P.daonensis but clearly it is a P.allionii hybrid similar to Joan Hughes but still not too disappointing.




Next is Narcissus moschatus




Lastly for the moment is Trillium rivale



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Afew more that might be of interest.
Chionodoxa siehei Purple Giant is a very reliable and easy garden bulb but because of its size is inclined to flop a little.



Chionoscilla allenii is a hybrid between Chionodoxa luciliae and Scilla bifolia which, I think, inherits the best features of both in this cultivar.



Muscari (Hyacinthella) azureum seeds itself all over the rock garden (which I don’t mind at all because it can be pulled out very easily and replanted elsewhere) I started off with all blue and gradually a few white have started to appear.



Corydalis George Baker I have grown for a very long time. It is better in the rock garden where it is much more compact and deeper in colour. It does seed around and come remarkably true because I never have any other cultivars near it.

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Mark - I think that Ian grows the same plant as me. If he has the true plant I hope to see a picture soon. N. 'John Wall' was identified for me by Richard Hobbs from whose garden the specimen that went before the Daffodil Commitee was taken. He at least is certain of the identity of my plant. As for the true Queen of Spain, we're still waiting! (Do I recall correctly that it was a triandrus hybrid?)
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Tony my flowers look like yours. I'll post a photo tomorrow or Saturday.
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Some more flowers outside the crocus-thread:

Bulbocodium Vernum


And two Iris, the first sold as Reticulata, the second as "George". Can anybody tell me a name to the first one and confirm the name of the second?

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after a week of temperatures in the teens it's amzing what is happening in the garden. Ranunculus ficaria are covered in blooms, many tulips are up and flowering, Anemone blandas are in full swing, alpine/rockery plants are flowering too. Narcissus are going over way too fast. 'Jetfires' are shrivelling while 'Queen Anne's Double' has doubled in two years from c4 to 9 this year. I'm just wondering if I should put my species Pelargoniums outside for some fresh air and give 'em a good watering. Watch out for lots of photos over the weekend.
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Thomas
Your first Iris reticulata looks like Joyce and the last one is George
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Fritillaria recurva coll Trinity Co CA shows the advantage of growing from collected seed because you get variation, from which you can select your favourite.







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Hi, Tony and Mark, here is a quote from one of Ian's old bulb logs: "
There are and have been for a long time at least two distinct types of Narcissus masquerading under the name of Narcissus 'Queen of Spain'. One with obvious relations to N. cyclamineus and the other one is more like a cross between a pseudonarcissus and a triandrus . The more that we research what has been written over the past 70 years about these two types the more confusion we seem to uncover, I suspect that we shall write up our findings at a later date when we have concluded our research. The one thing that we can be sure of is that no one can any longer be sure of what was (is) the 'true' Narcissus 'Queen of Spain'"
He says he'll post pix of ours at a later date.
Thomas, I agree with John about Iris "Joyce"
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Goodness, John, your Frit. recurva is flowering very early by our timetable! Ours will be MUCH later. it is one of my favourites.. I love the combination of delicacy of shape and vibrancy of colour... spectacular!
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Thanks John and Maggie for ID!
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a huge 17c today.

T-shirt and shorts day but I was showing today AND STOOPIDLY left my camera at home.

looking fantastic today were
Anemone blanda 'White Splendor'


Ranunculus ficaria 'Ashen Primrose'


puschkinia var libanotica



Ranunculus abnormis
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Hi All !
I had been promising some Pleione earlier on - the season is quite late though - 3 to 4 week later than last year out here (Belgium). But the fine weather of last week made a lot of things burst into bloom - including my Pleione.
Here we go :

Pl. Britania "Doreen"
Britania Doreen
Pl. quizapu "Peregrine"
Pl. quizapu Peregrine
Pl. shantung "Silver Anniversary"
Pl. shantung "Silver Anniversary"
Pl. shantung "Ducat"
Pl. shantung "Ducat"
Pl. Soufrière
Pl. soufrière
And a little joke : Pl. shantung "Ducat" after its daily shower !
Pl. shantung Ducat - wet

I hope to be back in a few days - there's more beauties waiting to open up.
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I love that Pushkinia Libanotica Mark - such a gorgeous little blue stripe - I've never seen it before is it hardy ?
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Gilgemyn Beautiful Pleione pictures.
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I posted a picture of my large pot which is the standard often referred to as T.rivale roseum.
I have grown Trillium rivale for a long time and have many self seed around the garden. I have been able to select a few that I find attractive.


I have selected one which almost without speckling which I have named 'Why Tish?' because it is.






Next I selected for the darkest colour with most speckling which is darker than T.r. Purple Heart.



The last is not my own but a gift and I am using it to try to combine the genes for good colour with those of the attractively patterned leaf.

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Full marks John F, not only for excellent photos of T. rivale forms, but for taking it further than it already is. Look forward to seeing the progeny.

How about a Trillium chain in late March/April/May, now that the snowdrop season is over.

Cheers John H
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Luc, Puschkinia is hardy and availible for less money in every garden center. There is also an albino form.
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Hi All,
Nice to see such lovely things again since my last visit. Those Frit recurva and Trillium rivale are stunning John. Gilgemyn - I once grew a lot of Pleione but my interest waned. Your pictures are great - especially like P.quizapu.
Things have been bursting into bloom for me too so here is a selection:

Ophrys cretica



The easy but less than spectacular O.bombyliflora:



First flowering after 5 years from seed, this is Anemone petiolulosa:





This was bought at great expense as Tulipa tschimganica but there is no trace of red in the petal bases (although I know the species is very variable in this character).




One of the european Romulea from AGS seed - any ideas? I thought perhaps R.tempskyana?




Can anyone identify this Frit? I remember finding it as a seedling in a pot of something entirely unrelated:




One of my own Trillium rivale seedlings - with stripes of pink along the veins.



A yellow form of Ranunculus asiaticus from Crete:



A red form from AGS exchange seed collected in Israel:



A result from pollen dabbing between the two!



Finally some more South Africans, this is Geissorhiza corrugata which has tightly spiral leaves in the wild but this is reduced to a few feeble kinks in our low light. The flowers are still nice though:



This is it's relative, G.inaequalis:



A cape Heath grown from seed as Erica hibbertia, which it clearly isn't. Will have to sit down with the monograph tonight:



This is one of the tuberous, summer dormant Pelargonium species - P.incrassatum:



This is Moraea bipartita - the flowers are pretty and numerous but each only lasts for one afternoon:



My Delosperma sphalmanthoides proudly doing what it singularly failed to do at the Blackpool show:



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Excellent pictures Darren. I love your Ophrys but I decided a while ago that it was kinder not to grow them(after killing a few). Your T.rivale is interesting and would be worth mixing in the gene pool if you are near Blackpool at the appropriate time or we could post an anther or 2.
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Thanks John - will post you an anther or two and perhaps you could send one from one of your darker forms? That would be great!
This is one of the sister seedlings from the same packet, a bit like one of yours but without the leaf markings:



Ophrys are frustrating but some of the new suppliers are growing from seed using the mycorrhizae and the resulting plants seem much tougher. I actually find Orchis harder to grow for long.

Darren.
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Looking at the plants I think this spring in Holland is totally confused.
On 2nd and 3th March we got 35 cm. snow. Normally it takes 10 years to get so much together. Then we had in the night –15 C. which is here near the coast very rare.
Here some pictures of Crocus chrysanthus Zenith. That’s normally the last flowering C. chrysanthus, but not this spring.
{Crocus chrys. ‘Zenith’ pl.}
{Crocus chrys. ‘Zenith’ bl.}
{Crocus chrys. ‘Zenith’ det.}
Crocus chrys. 'Zenith' pl.

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A few of the spring flowers from down south.

This was the state of things two weeks ago
Gentiana angustifolia
But this week the bud finally opened!
Gentiana angustifolia
Gentiana ?angustifolia raised from wild collected seed is making a nice clump in a semi-shaded trough and promises a few more flowers later.

Dionysia aretioides
These Dionysia aretioides have featured in the forum before. Now at their peak of flowering it is possible to see clear differences in the two clones. 'Bevere' on the left has paler flowers and a more open habit. The clone on the right is a selected seedling with darker yellow flowers and a very tight habit in flower. (I have several of each and the characters are consistent.) The darker form has flowers with petals which always recurve slightly, a feature which makes the flowers less attractive.

Romulea atranda
Back to the bulbs. Romulea atranda is a truly shocking pink - looks quite out of place among the subtle shades of the narcissus and frits alongside.
Romulea sabulosa
Romulea sabulosa is only a little less 'loud'.

Colchicum luteum
Colchicum luteum acquired for a hefty £5 a bulb some years ago is slowly increasing left to its own devices in my covered bulb bed.
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Just a few plants of interest at the moment

This one is Callianthemum Coriandifolium



This is Ypsilandra Thibetica



a lovely Paeony hybrid which occured in my garden possibly from Cambessedessi and Mlokosewitschii?



and finally Corydalis dieter Schacht




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Tony,
Your Gentiana? angustifolia is Gentiana clusii.
Franz
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Here is a photograph from Gentiana angustifolia. Photographed at Southwest Alps Gentiana angustifolia
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In the cold glashouse this week suddenly opened this flower.
It’s interesting that, after taking pictures, you see so much more on the PC screen. That makes photographing plants gives so much pleasure!
{Heloniopsis orientalis bl.}
{Heloniopsis orientalis pl.}
Finally I must say how much I love to see the pictures of shows. Please go on!
We almost have no opportunity to show our plants to other gardeners.
A bit of competition would be very nice. Here’s a picture of a Primula I grow for showing to friends. Of course not a prize-winner in SRGC standards' but we enjoy it.
{Primula Wharfdale Ling}


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Luit
Terrific close up picture of Heloniopsis.

Tony
I really like your first Romulea but it doesn't look like R.atrandra. Could it be R. komsbergensis?

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After a long snow-rich winter is it spring in Vienna.
Adonis amurensis
Adonis amurensis

Iris Katharine Hodgin
Iris Katharine Hodgin
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Thank-you to John and Franz for comments on names - when I move out of Crocus my lack of knowledge is soon exposed! I know very little about the S african romuleas - are there any distinguishing features that I can look for to assist in naming them?
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Surprised to find Paris fargesii already in flower. This has been in a pot in the open all winter.
image/jpgParis fargesii
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For anyone having difficulty opening John H's Paris pic, here it is again:
Paris fargesii
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John,

Would you have any seed to spare from some of your heavily spotted Trillium rivale? Something I have always wanted to get but been unable to find as yet. Most of my T. rivale are predominantly or pale pink but with spotting of varying amounts and differing petal shapes. I would dearly love to get some seedlings going of some that will have the genes for dark spotting, even if they themselves won't be. I also didn't even realise that there were forms of rivale that had marked leaves. Beautiful!!

Darren...... would you happen to have seed available from your pink veined rivale? That is something special, both from the shape and the wonderful colouration. Again, I realise that the seed may not come true, but the genes are at least there to give a chance of it.

I think I'd have to say that T. rivale is my favourite Trillium that I have seen in person. I don't grow that many trilliums as yet really, although my collection is growing in more ways than one! *grin* I have always loved the pics I have seen of the dark hearted rivales and the solider pinks..... so I hope noone minds me asking re seed. I am quite good at begging if necessary!! ROTFL

Thanks.

Paul T. Canberra, Australia.
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A new picture I've just taken. Corydalis popovii growing like a weed in my bulb frame.

Corydalis popovii
Coydalis popovii
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Franz,

Nice colour to it. Some weeds are worth it eh? *grin*

Paul T. Canberra, Australia.
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Franz your photos are like looking at the plants with my own eyes. What camera do you use?
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Fantastic photos of great plants... how I love this Forum! I was stunned into silence by the sheer power of colour in Tony G's extraordinary Romuleas... new to me, I only know a few more usual forms... then I just melted at the golden sheen of Franz' Adonis amurense.. one of my favourite flowers. What a photo! The shine is as clear as day... a lovely sunny day at that!
Thanks all! Luit was agreeing with John F. the other day that one seems to "See" more in a digital photo.. I quite agree. of course the increased depth of field accounts for part of that, but I think that the terrifice colour reproduction and overall clarity of the best of these pictures is even better than looking, however close, with the naked eye. My eyes are not that good nowadays, I don't think. I can see details much better when I study a photo on the computer screen than I can even with a lense in life.
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Paul
I will try to get some seed for you but have crossed Darren's T.rivale with mine but I have another dark one which I will self and save for you.
Margaret
It's a lot harder to see those pesky greenfly as well these days!!!!!!
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John,

Thanks very much. If not this year, then next year would be fine..... I just would love to at some point have some of the dark hearted rivale as they are so striking. I know that supposedly "Purple Heart" does produce some seedlings similar to the parent, which is what I am hoping for.

I am a definite sucker for rivale and tend to sow seed from it each year (mine produce prolific seed every year with some help) and I have no idea what I am going to do with them all when they all reach maturity. I guess I'll be having drifts of rivales in the garden!! I can think of worse sights!

Paul T. Canberra, Australia.
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This week opened up a couple more Pleione for us - I hope you enjoy them :

Pl. Marion Johnson
Pl. Marion Johnson
Pl. hekla "Locking stumps" - almost red silk inside
Pl. hekla "Locking stumps"
More to come later.

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Here's two more :

Pl. alishan "Mount fuji" - not quite open yet.
Pl. alishan "Mount Fuji"

The sheer flower power of a potful of Pl. speciosa (now called Pl. pleionoides I think)
Pl. speciosa (pleionoides)

Anybody else having any Pleione to show us ???
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Lovely shots Luc. Certainly shows the detail, doesn't it!!

Great stuff!!

Paul T. Canberra, Australia.
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Was it worth the wait ? 4 years after sowing Tristagma nivalis ssp nivalis it presented me with its flower luxuriant in the same green as its leaf and magnanimous in its 20mm flower size. Did it flower last year and I didn’t notice? What made me choose the seed from Watson’s seed list? At shows it would come under the ‘more interesting than beautiful’ category. On re- reading the description it says that it is sweetly scented but I can’t even detect that. Ah well you win some you lose some.





Nothoscordium ostenii was a much more pleasant surprise, grown from seed collected in Uruguay

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WOW, the Pleione pic. are amazingly clear.
What exquisite beauties. sighhhhhh
Thanks for these delights, Luc.
Ronnalee in Wiarton
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The Tristagma is what my husband calls a BIO plant (biological interest only). What family is it in? It doesn't look at all familiar. The Nothoscordium is a charmer though, as you say if you take risks with new species you get some duffers but some beauties to compensate.
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Mark,
I use a Nikon reflex camera D 100. It makes me happy, that my photographs please you.
Colchicum hungaricum grows in my meadow like many other bulbs.
Colchicum hungaricum
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You are excelling yourself, Franz! Such a beautiful colchicum. The picture so clear that we can see each hair on the leaf edges... thank you!
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one of my favourite Colchicums. Franz mine usually flower during December or January.

My troughs are starting to look good.
Saxifraga burseriana 'Princess'


Townsendia excapa


Trillium rivale 'Roseum' AGM form


Bellis caerulea
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Mark,

That is certainly a good pink form of rivale. I don't know exactly what "AGM" form is (other than "Annual General Meeting" which I have my doubts is correct! LOL) but I am assuming that it is some sort of award or medal? Given how strong a colour and the form of the flowers I can see why it was awarded..... very superior!!

All great pics as always Mark. Great Pleione pics Luc, and John I can quite understand your uncertainty with the green thing. Do you grow Freesia viridis (formerly Anomatheca viridis)? It has "similar" small green flowers which to me look like a cross between a freesia and a Kangaroo Paw ( Anigozanthos, an Aussie native) and you certainly could miss them if you aren't looking out for them. They seed prolifically too, which can be a bit of a pain if you aren't watching for them and remove them! LOL

Paul T. Canberra, Australia.
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Award of Garden Merit
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Thanks Mark.

Paul T. Canberra, Australia.
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Anne, Tristagma is in Alliaceae !
Which seems reasonable, when you examine it, I suppose ??!!
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Crikey! Doesn't immediately look oniony does it?
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You see,Anne, I thought it DID look oniony, I even thought I could smell it being oniony!!
Dear me, I really do need to get out more!!
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I may just try the Tristagma in a cheese and (onion) pie, to see if it tastes better than it looks.
Meanwhile here are a few Erythroniums in flower at the moment.
How delighted I was to see in the flesh Erythronium americanum Craigton Flower, from Ian Young, and hope it will be happy with me this side of the border.



Erythronium cliftonii is the first one up apart from all the E. dens canis hybrids and is equally good outside.



Erythronium revolutum Johnsonii Grp. These are seed raised from the original and show variation mainly in the leaf pattern.They seed themselves around the garden with a little help from me by pod shaking in an appropriate place.




Lastly Erythronium tuolumnenese EBA clone 3 brighter and more vigorous than the type.


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I gotta get Erythroniums. My aim is to have small(ish) bulbs in flower in the garden for as long as possible
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Mark, surely you don't need me, or even the Erythroniums' Number One Fan, Ian Y, to tell you that EVERYONE should have (LOTS) of erythroniums?? There is, by the way, no REAL truth in the rumour that Ian IS going to change his name by deed poll to ErythronIAN Young !!
He was just thinking about it... a lot!}}
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Aaaah Erythroniums. Yet another of my favourite bulbs. Never heard of the named varieties (or dens canis hybrids for that matter) so they obviously haven't made it here yet.

I grow quite a few of them here, including a few different types from seed when I can find it. 'Cliftonii' flowered for me for the first time last spring, but as first flowering and still small it wasn't anything different to E. multiscapoideum at that stage. The latter definitely has to be one of my favourite of the Erythronium. I actually have 2 forms, one with the traditional white pollen and one with pink pollen.... which means it must be a hybrid with one of the pink pollen species but in all ways other than the pollen it is identical to the normal species. It does change the appearance of the flower quite a bit though. And before anyone asks the pollen is definitely pink as the flower opens, not part of the aging process.

Wonderful to see Erythronium pics.... bring em on!!

Paul T. Canberra, Australia.
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Paul,
Sorry I took so long to respond - my first log in since before Easter. I'm sort of in the same boat as John regarding the veined T.rivale - mine are due for pollination with some anthers from John's plants. However - I noticed yesterday that I must have accidentally selfed one of the flowers on the veined form (presumably during the antherectomy procedure)as it has assumed the head-down position! I'll try to mark this one and send some seed when it is available.

Darren.
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I have all the fun in front of me. This is the first fully developed flower in our garden this year (2004-03-28).
By the way. Is this 'Arnott' I bought it forty years ago and I am no longer sure. It is 20cm from soil to tip of scape.
Göte
PS The pic was rejected because of size when it was clearly less than 69K Why??Galanthus nivalis '???'
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Tony,
Nobody has come forward with tips for identifying the South African Romulea so i did some research last night (I have a vested interest - you may remember sending me some seed from your R.atranda a couple of years ago). R atranda and R.komsbergensis overlap in virtually every character and the two photographs of each in the Colour Encyclopedia of Cape Bulbs are practically indistinguishable. However - going to the descriptions in detail there are a few differences which are relatively distinctive:
R.atranda has yellowish anthers 5-10mm long and R.komsbergensis has smaller (3-5mm) brown or rusty coloured anthers. There are also minor differences between the bracts but these sound difficult to diagnose. It is difficult to see the anthers clearly in your picture but my impression is that they are rusty brown rather than yellow which suggests R.komsbergensis. To be honest, whilst we should strive for accuracy in naming, I don't think the two species are so different that I would bother to grow both just for the sake of different names on labels..

The seed you sent germinated well and should flower next year. I find the Cape Romulea often take two years to germinate. I wish I grew more of them.

Darren.
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Darren,

Thank you kindly in anticipation. If not this year then keep me in mind next year.... just whenever you have a couple of seeds to spare. I would just very much like at some point to grow a rivale with a leaf form like that, and of course some of those lovely pink ones that have been shown here as well.... mine are MUCH paler than that! *grin*

Thanks again.

Paul T. Canberra, Australia.
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Here some Chionodoxa from my garden:


Chionodoxa Siehei (Forbesii) Pink Giant


C. Luciliae


C. Luciliae Alba


C. Siehei (Forbesii)
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Gote, to answer your question of your picture being rejected despite being only 69kb.
As well as the picture itself the file contains other information called 'properties' which take up some of the 70kb allowable.One of these technical twists that we have to live with. Glad you made the post, it is a fine clump of galanthus.
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Posted on Wednesday, March 30, 2005 - 9:16 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I bought my first Erythroniums, forgotten about, from a certain Christian (surname not religion) E. citrinum 'Roderickii' c2 years ago and cost over £10 each!. Last year as far as I know they didnt flower. I had visitors this evening to see my yellow garden, no longer white, and they spotted 2 small Erythroniums. One is white and the other is pink!! A photo will be winging it's way to said fellow as soon as. Grrrrr
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Before you complain Mark, I should point out that despite the name, Erythronium citrinum is white, it should have a citrus yellow ring around the throat, but the petals are cream to white. The subspecies roderickii has brown pollen instead of the normal cream/white, here is a picture of what you should have.
Erythronium citrinum roderickii
Mark Smyth (Mark__n_ireland)
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Posted on Thursday, March 31, 2005 - 8:19 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

thanks Ian. One is correct but the other is definitely dark pink. I forgot to take photos today, senior moment I think. Both are very small with flowers just clearing soil level. I suppose I should move them to give them more direct light. When is this best done?
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Posted on Thursday, March 31, 2005 - 8:39 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mark, I'd move them just after they have gone dormant, while there is still a remnant of leaf to remind me where they are !
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Posted on Thursday, March 31, 2005 - 8:53 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I can’t equal Luc’s beautiful Pleiones but here are 3 flowering for me now

P. Hekla







Pleione El Pico



Pleione Alba



and whilst I'm on here are a few others

Anemonella thalictroides semi double which I think is prettier than the fully double which are not yet in flower.





Asarum maximum is one of those plants you either love or loathe. It is quite happy to spend all year under the staging.



Lastly is Draba longisiliqua collected 1100m lime crevice Stalisstyj chr Caucasus Russia.


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Posted on Friday, April 01, 2005 - 7:46 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

great plants and photos, John.

Here are a few plants from my garden taken yesterday
Puschkinia var libanotica 'Alba'


Muscari 'Bowles Peacock'


Armeria which will be stunning when the flowers open


I still dont know why my photos go down in quality when I've posted them recently.
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Thanks for posting the Pleione pix John and don't make me blush, I just do my best to equal the very high standards of all the beauties that are posted up here. You shouldn't be too modest yourself either, your Pleione and the pix look smashing as well, especially the potful of Hekla is quite impressive ! I'll try and post some more myself over the weekend.
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Posted on Friday, April 01, 2005 - 10:45 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Luc and John,
Amazed by your Pleiones. They are so far ahead of mine! My earliest (P.Eiger) which is a P.humilis hybrid is only just in flower. The shantungs etc are at least two weeks off yet. Perhaps it was spending the winter in a very cold dark shed that kept them back?

John - the Trillium anthers arrived safely thanks and have been put to good use.

I've two clones of Asarum maximum and would like to cross them but I can't work out the flower structure - the anthers are fairly apparent but where are the female bits?! Help! There seems to be no monograph of the genus available which seems a shame, perhaps one of you knows different? They seem popular plants in Japan - is there a Japanese publivation?

Darren
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Posted on Friday, April 01, 2005 - 12:02 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Darren - I cannot get Asarum maximum to grow well for me here in sunny Dunblane. It just seems to exist. What is the secret?
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Posted on Friday, April 01, 2005 - 12:41 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Anthony. You're asking the wrong bloke - John grows this much better than I do. I remember seeing John's plant at the Blackpool show (two years ago?) and being stunned.

That said - it does quite well for me and increases in size each year so I must be doing something right. My recipe: big plastic pot, compost roughly equal parts JI3, fine composted bark ('Cambark') and grit or perlite. This produces a very open 'woodsy' compost. As John says - no direct light is needed or even appreciated. My plants stay under the bench all year round and kept permanently moist but not wet. I feed with liquid tomato fertiliser occasionally but often give some nitrogen as the leaves develop in spring. Cut the old leaves off at flowering time - they often look tired and they hide the flowers.

Darren.
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Posted on Friday, April 01, 2005 - 12:43 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Anthony,

Is now a good time to mention that it grows fine here? LOL

I don't think sunny should be a problem. Mine get strong morning sun and seem to be thriving in their pots, plus I have put one in the ground a couple of months ago in the same sort of position and it is doing well. Managed to keep the mongrel snails off them so far thankfully.

I really don't understand how you guys get your pans so packed in and perfect. The Show pictures are just amazing to me.... John, how is it that you end up with the leaves perfectly arranged like that with the perfect circle of flowers underneath? I know that a lot of it is the maturity of the plant, but how do you manage to keep them all so nice and compact? I would have to say the same for so many of the Show pics.... they just blow me away as I can't comprehend how you get the plants so perfect. I guess it is to do with greenhouses etc as well, as they give the protection and you can adjust light levels etc?

I think it will remain just one of life's mysteries to me! *grin*

Paul T. Canberra, Australia.
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Posted on Friday, April 01, 2005 - 2:19 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I promised to learn to send pics, hows this?Seedling
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Posted on Friday, April 01, 2005 - 3:24 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Paul

Full sun doesn't exist north of Yorkshire, about 250 miles south of Dunblane. If I don't grow shade plants in the open they don't increase. I have Trillium ovatum hibbersonii growing under an Acer dissectum and it has remained a single flowering nose for three years. I even grow Cypripedium calceolus in full sun.
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Posted on Friday, April 01, 2005 - 5:06 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Darren,
Thanks for the compliments, I don't know where you live (Scotland ?)and it's definitely the dark cold shed that makes them late - but I wouldn't mind about that - as long as they flower for you it should be ok. Mind you - part of my collection resides in the fridge (+ 5 °C) in October/November and December - until they are potted up early to mid January. They then enjoyed quite a mild January and first half of February over here in Belgium and Eiger flowered about 4 weeks ago. Then everything came to a stand still because of the late winter spell we had and now all the other species are 2 to 4 weeks later than normal. But as I said - don't worry about early or late - as long as they're doing allright then why should we worry.
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Thanks for your comments Luc and look forward to your next posting.
Gwendolen
Good on ya the picture is fine but does it have a name the file name is just seedling.
Darren
I will take off a flower tomorrow and dissect it and see if I can find the bits that other men can't.(tee hee)
Anthony
As I said in my posting. The Asarum thrives on neglect. I just water when I remember and keep it under the staging (glass to ground greenhouse)
all year.the rest is similar to Darren's regime.

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John F. Thanks for the interest. The Celandine is indeed a seedling with a number. I grow'em on for a year or three maybe with a pet name [ John Carter calls these names Clonal Epithets ]until I decide they are a] disinct enough and b] have enough stock to merit a name and then off we go
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Posted on Friday, April 01, 2005 - 10:41 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It's lovely Gwendolen - I love the green middle which really sparks off the orange.
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Posted on Saturday, April 02, 2005 - 9:29 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Darren
I dissected the Asarum and the pictures show the stigmatic surface. The anthers face outward and are in a groove which is visible.



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Posted on Monday, April 04, 2005 - 12:42 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Luc,
I live on the north west coast of England - near Lancaster. John Forrest is not very far away in Blackpool. Thanks for your comments on my late Pleiones, it is clear that I have much to learn about the microclimates in this garden. The bottom of the slope near the woodland is where the shed is situated and is the coldest place in the garden. One flower on Shantung 'Muriel Harberd' has opened during the weekend.
John- thanks very much for taking the trouble to dissect that Asarum flower to answer my question. Your pictures make the situation much clearer and I will do a bit of cross-pollinating this evening!

Cheers, Darren.
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Posted on Tuesday, October 11, 2005 - 5:33 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Looking for pictures of foliage for Freesia Super Giants. Due to mislabeling, and never seeing the flowers, not sure if this is right plant name I have been growing.For past 2 years, started inside. When transplanted outside, rabbits consumed them. The foliage is waxy, and reminds me of Delosperma cooperi.

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