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Paul Tyerman (Tyerman)
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Posted on Tuesday, February 01, 2005 - 9:00 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Howdy All,

To get the ball rolling on the Southern Hemisphere for February......


Gloxinia lindeniana - grown inside under lights. Delightful plant with the most beautiful leaves. The flowers are just a bonus.


A closeup of the flower.

I bought this as Gloxinia lindeniana but I am wondering whether this is the correct name or not? I know that most Gloxinias are Sinningias, but this came from someone who really knows her stuff, so I am figuring that this is actually from the genus Gloxinia itself? She certainly has most of her other things labelled as Sinningias, so I have kept this as she labelled it.

Hopefully we might get some other postings from the Southern Hemisphere this month? I left it a full 24 hours before posting just in case anyone else wanted to start the thread, then figured I'd best do it myself. *grin*

Happy New Month everyone. LOL

Paul T. Australia.
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Posted on Wednesday, February 02, 2005 - 12:18 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hello everyone! I haven't posted in ages, I moved house, now I have a computer AND broadband internet!! How exciting. So here are some pictures I took this morning, after all the rain we had last night.

A white Cyclamen hederifolium:

Cyclamenwhite

Some sort of Nerine (sarniensis?):

nerine

Some sort of Pulmonaria, and baby's tears all in a pot:

Pulmonaria

Oriental Lilium Bergamo, I just love this one :-)

Bergamo

Cheers,

Lauren
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Posted on Wednesday, February 02, 2005 - 7:38 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

About to flower - Cyclamen africanum.

I was looking for seed and found this plant readying to flower and thought it a good demonstration of how it grows. Quite different to Cyclamen hederifolium to which it is often
compared.(assuming it is Cyclamen africanum).

Cyclamen africanum_top
corm - from top, 2 crowns showing

It is a plant of bad press. Puttock (The Cyclamen 1958)describes it as "similar
to a large, coarse growing form of C.neapolitanum
(hederifolium). The AGS encyclopedia saying it is very like C.hederifolium in general
appearance but the tuber generally thicker with a pronounced hollow above and not considered generally hardy though some forms will succeed outdoors in mild districts. And Brian Mathews description (Drawf Bulbs 1973) that it is a species very similar to the much more common and superior C.neapolitanum. The flowers are almost identical he says, but leaves tend larger, more fleshy,brighter green and less attractively marked. Tender in Britain requiring heated greenhouse. The one thing I agree with is the Flowering is autumn over a long period, - the rest I'll cover my plant from.

My plant is not inferior but superior to the Cyclamen hederifolium, it has a finesse, a finer flower not so chunky. It flowers for a very long period in autumn. It lives under a viburnum tree where winter night temps maybe -12C for weekly periods, in dry but frosty winter weather. It grows, yet I have not yet succeeded
with Cyclamen repandum for hardiness due to late winter frosting.

Cyclamen africanum_side
corm - trying to show height above ground

The corm is what interested me to take the photo; it is at its height about 1" above the ground. This is not what Cyclamen hederifolium does for me. The corm looks about ¼ above ground with no evidence of a pronounced hollow AGS describes. In size it is about the size of my palm. It has two main crowns of growth - a main crown ontop and a smaller crown off to the side but there is no splitting of the corm. (An excellent picture of flowering is found in the AGS Vol64 Mar 1996 pg 89.)

I was looking for seed as C.hederfolium seed is ready now but there was no evidence of any seed capsules yet I think it formed these last autumn
so either they've been and well gone, or disappeared in winter. I was very interested in Ian Young's comment in his bulb log about the
care of cyclamen in the dormant period having a major influence on the quality of cyclamen
flowering or growth.

I thought, that could well be where I go wrong but I hope, not now I know. I remain for now testing the advice.

Finally, What great seed I got from the list, both in selection and quality of the seed. Thanks everyone!.


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Posted on Wednesday, February 02, 2005 - 9:41 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Lyn,

As far as I know the main difference between hederifolium and africanum is that hederifolium sends the flower stems out laterally underground and then they make an approximately 90 degree "elbow" before coming up to flower. C. africanum is supposed to have the flowers emerge directly from the corm rather than shooting horizontally, therefore no "elbow" in the flower stem. The big problem you will have if you DO get seed is that they hybridise readily from memory, so you're unlikely to get true seedlings of the africanum. This is the case with most seed of africanum unless kept completely isolated from hederifolium, so a lot of what is sold as africanum is often a hederifolium x africanum, somewaht muddying the waters re identification! *grin*

I have what is supposed to be africanum and it does appear to have the flower stems arise directly from the corm whereas even those hederifoliums that have the corms sitting on top of the ground will often have buds head over the side of the corm into the ground and then come up as flowers a distance away.

I think that maturity and environment greatly influence whether the hederifoliums have their corms sitting on the surface or not. As some of mine are getting larger they are definitely starting to sit up out of the ground. The largest corm I have ever seen of hederifolium was sitting on top of the ground and was literally the size of a dinner plate!! Looked VERY impressive when in flower let me tell you!! The other interesting thing with that particular one was that it had rather long leaves, and some of its seedlings have been rather interesting (I asked for and obtained seed of course, being a somewhat addictive collector! LOL) in that they are throwing some very elongated leaves. My best seedling (which is of course carefully potted and labelled) has leaves that measure approximately 11cm x 3cm, giving a fascinating effect. The flowers are absolutely pristine white.

My very favourite hederifolium is just starting to flower at the moment. It has the best flower form of any of the hederifoliums that I have and nice oval pure silver leaves. It also produces approximately 1/3 pure silver leaf seedlings, 1/3 mostly silver leaf seedlings and 1/3 marbeld or green leaf seedlings. The first time I sowed seed I was hoping to get at least a few with leaves as good as the parents, but approximately 1/3 of them were pure silver. I was pretty impressed! *grin*

If anyone is interested I can put a pic up here of it. Wasn't sure how much interest there would be in the various leaf forms of hederifoliums.... I collect a few different ones, although have seen a lot of different ones on overseas sites that I would like to get my grubby little hands on! LOL At the moment they're flowering and then the leaves will emerge in the next few months.

Also worth noting that at the moment I also have flowers on purpurascens (various leaf forms), intaminatum and buds on a couple of other species. Very nice cyclamen time of year. The purpurascens in particular are lovely as they are basically evergreen and some have very cool leaves. Thankfully I managed to hand pollinate a few seeds last year and some of these are producing the same leaf patterns as their parents which is great. I am out there regularly at the moment pollinating them to make sure that I get plenty of seeds as the purpurascens are rather hard to find.

I'd better stop rambling. Sorry this has got a bit long. I hope it is of interest. I can provide pics of the various things I've spoken about, of I can add to a Cyclamen thread (if it exists) if there is interest in them?

OK, I can't help myself. I have to post at least one pic. LOL Here's a pic of the flowers of my lovely silver leaf I mentioned above. Nice rounded petals and always held well. Nice mid pink too. This pic was taken a couple of years ago.


Cyclamen hederifolium

Paul T. Australia.
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Posted on Wednesday, February 02, 2005 - 10:33 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Paul, do show us all your different Cyclamen, I really love them :-) I've just bought Christopher Grey-Wilson's book "Cyclamen" and haven't been able to put it down. I have several species, but most grown from seed and probably still have another 1 or 2 years until I see flowers. Paul do you think you have e-mail me orr-list? I have a question for you!!

Lauren
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Posted on Wednesday, February 02, 2005 - 12:46 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Lauren,

As you asked so nicely!! *grin* None of these of course have leaves at the moment, they'll be a while yet. Mr Admin person.... should this be posted elsewhere as these are not actually "flowering now" type pics? If so, please move them where you feel they should be.


Here's the silver leaves associated with the flowers I posted earlier. Not the best picture of them as they look a bit green in this. They're a lovely silver really.


This is what I call my 'Long Leaf White'. This particular leaf was 11cm long by 3cm wide at it's widest.


This one is a rather nice silvery one I bought at a nursery a few years ago. This is planted by itself under a prunus, and has a leaf spread of around 18 inches in a perfect circle each year, although there are a few seedlings popping up amongst it now that I really should remove so as not to spoil it. Lovely pink flowers.


Cyclamen intaminatum, flowering at the moment. Only a few flowers as yet, main display later on.

Well there's a few pics for those of you who are interested.

Paul T. Australia.
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Wow, am I a motivated cyclamen grower now. It is all part of the charm of cyclamen that they their flowers & foliage are both so attractive and variations on themes. I too have a long leafed form which I also think is shown in Patrick Synge's book. To continue the foliage in the flowering section I'd like to see a couple of purpurascens leaf forms. Thanks for the detail.
Yes I think that'll be right about age lifting the corms - I've seen hederifolium raise itself some(to surface mainly) and this plant is a good 10yrs plus. Plus the weedy grass may have encouraged it to lift.

Lyn (@45 South & 36C - thereabouts)
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Lyn,

I'll try to remember to take some pics of the purpurascens tomorrow. I'll look through my pics and see if I can come up with any other interesting leaf pics of cyclamen too.

Today was a decidedly cold day for the middle of summer (13'C here much of the middle of the day, which is particularly shocking given it was 35'C a few days ago) and rainy. Only got a 1/2 inch in the last couple of days though, unlike Sydney, Melbourne, Victoria and much of Tasmania which have had some good rains to refill water supplies etc. Still nothing major in the way of rain for us though. I wish the rest of them would stop stealing our rain! LOL

Paul T. Australia.
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Cyclamen which have apparently "lifted" to the surface, are often just the top layer in a pancake-like stack, where the seedlings have grown on top of the parent. That is the case here anyway where we don't have the problem of ants' removal of seed to any great extent. On digging the plants, sometimes one finds 5 or more layers of solid tuber and as they grow the leaves from the lower layers have to grow further and further away from the tuber in order to emerge eventually from the soil above them
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Great photos Paul!! That 'long leaf' on is unusual...is it a subspecies? Does it set seed? Hint hint lol!!

I have noticed the same thing with the hederifoliums I have, sometimes the flowers come up in a ring around the outside of the pot because they travel underground so far. I wonder if this is some sort of an attempt to put the seeds out further? Although the stem coiling would seem to counteract my theory....and then the ants carry them away anyway!! Oh dear. I was never good at evolution concepts at uni!!

I don't have any new pictured today...will be taking lots tomorrow though so 'stay tuned' as they say. Lyn, you better show us a photo of your Cyclamen africanum, it looks like it's going to have a bumper crop of flowers this year. Is it hard to grow?

Well, must be off!

Lauren
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Posted on Saturday, February 05, 2005 - 12:44 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Here's some more 'flowering now's for February, taken this morning (in the rain I might add!)

Lilium 'Wildfire':

wildfire

The last 'Nippon' to open:

nippon

Lilium 'Merostar':

merostar

And now, my pride & joy, Cyclamen purpurascens seedlings! These germinated after only 6 months, was totally unexpected but great nonetheless!

c.purpurascens

Cheers,

Lauren
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Lauren,

Not a subspecies, just a variant like most of the leaf forms. It does set seed and they tend to be variable as to the amount of lengthening they do. I would imagine though that the initial seedlings bred together would definitely produce some longer leaf like their parent plant.

Great Liliums!! Aren't the orientals just stunning. I have wildfire as well.... I think it is actually an Australian hybrid from memory?

Congrats on the Cyclamen purpurascens seedlings. I got out this morning and took some pic of the purpurascens leaves for Lyn (and anyone else interested).....

purp 1
My original purpurascens with the silverest of the leaves I have.

purp 2
This pic doesn't do it justice. The markings are very intricate and remind me of fractal designs. Very striking in real life. This and the next one were bought a couple of years ago...

purp 3
This one is quite green in its markings, whereas the first one is strongly silver. The following is this one in flower..

purp 3 fl.

own seedlings
These are my own seedlings that were from cross pollinating the 3 purpurascens above. I am pretty pleased with the leaves.... particularly the bottom one without the dark "christmas tree" in the centre (which is very similar to the right-most one in your seedling picture). 2 more seedlings have germinated in the pot so next year I should have more idea what they are going to be like.

older seedling
This is a seedling in a pot from purchased seed. This one is flowering for the first time this year. The rest of the pot so far are mainly green.

Enjoy.

Paul T. Canberra, Australia.
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Ahh, I'm glad my seedlings look like yours. What you said about the long germination made me think I'd gotten the seeds/labels mixed up or something! But the large leaves are very similar to my small ones I think. Do you find that the flowers are fragrant? My books say they are fragrant....without the peppery 'undertones' that other Cyclamen have. I don't know, that's just what they say. Can't wait til mine bloom! :-)

Lauren
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Instincts correct as usual Paul - 'Wildfire' is another Eric Genat hybrid like 'Mimosa Star'; it's just approaching fifty years since he named it, so it must have a good constitution to still be going strong.

Officially it's a cross between 'Beecheri' (auratum v. platyphyllum x dark flowered speciosum) and auratum v. rubrovittatum. It was one of the bulbs which the ALS sent across to Germany in 1962 for the International Exhibition Gardens in Hamburg the following year (where it won a gold medal).

Nice to see it Lauren.

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Yep, Cyclamen purpurascens is VERY fragrant. To my mind, like a large bunch of lily-of-the-valley. In Australia you seem to have a really good seed source to produce seedlings like those Paul. It grows well here but every single one of my plants has plain green leaves.
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Lesley,

If mine set seed again this year (I am hand pollinating every single flower so there is a good chance it will) then I will send you some seed. As you can see from my own seedlings they are passing on the genetics for the silver in the leaves quite happily. The other pot of purchased seedligns was from seed from the US. I honestly haven't even stuck my nose into purpurascens but I'll try doing it. Given how icky some of the supposedly scented persicums are (nauseating in some cases) I must admit to being somewhat reluctant to try it in general). LOL

Thanks for the info on 'Wildfire' Rob. I have had it just finish flowering here in the last couple of weeks. I didn't realise that it was an Eric Genat brreding, nor for that matter did I realise that 'Mimosa Star' was. The latter is one of my favourite liliums as it performs SO well each year with the lovely clear yellow flowers and so tall.

Paul T. Canberra, Australia.
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Hi all,

Not much to report today, but it was nice weather for a change so I sowed some seeds, Tecophilaea cyanocrocus being some of them, but now I'm a bit worried as I was looking at Bulb Log 13 from 2003, now I think I've planted them too shallowly. I might go and put another inch of soil on top of them, though they won't be 'halfway down the pot' like Ian's were, I hope they won't be too far behind. I also sowed my own Dodecatheon meadia seeds, Hellebore seeds, and some Lilium seeds that I got from the NW Tas Lilium society a few weeks ago. So hopefully I shall see some results come Spring!!

Anyway here are some pics for today.

Yellow Snappys in the sun:

snappys

Lobelia cardinalis:

lobelia

And something that was quite difficult to photograph!! Leucojum autumnale:

leucojum

Cheers,

Lauren
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Lauren,

I've been meaning to put up a pic of Leucojum autumnale but I can never get a decent enough pic to bother! LOL You've done extremely well getting such a good one!! Well done.

We've had some nice and cool weather last week (down to 6'C and one day only up to 16'C) but today and tomorrow unfortunately are making us forget the lovely cool days last week..... with 32'C today and 34'C tomorrow. I think I'm glad that I'm going in for a sinus operation tomorrow..... at least it will be air conditioned and I won't feel the heat!! LOL Got to be SOMETHING good about being in hospital! *grin*

Paul T. Canberra, Australia.
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Hi all! Haven't posted many pictures this week so I think I oughta.

Here's a better photo of my little group of Leucojum autumnale, I didn't reaslize how many flowers I would have this year because I only had 2 stems last year! In this picture I think they look like ballerina skirts, like the ones in Les Sylphides (yes I was in it when I was younger...!):

leuc

My precious climbing Dicentra, Dicentra scandens. This plant is way underpotted and wasn't very healthy earlier in the season, but a few overdue doses of fertilizer and a shadier spot and it is doing much better now, these are the last of its little flowers:

scandens

This must be the weirdest looking flower I have blooming at the moment, one of the toad lilies Tricyrtis hirta:

hirta

And here's a final look at my Oriental hybrids for the year, blooming after this will be Lilium speciosum "Uchida" which will be very welcome as the weather cools. Merostar on the left, Bergamo on the right:

lilies

Well there we go. Are you out of the hospital yet Paul? Sinus operations are nasty, my dad is having one this year and I will probably need one later in life as I am already having problems now...oh well, at least I can still smell the flowers!

Lauren
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I wonder if this will work for me, at long last? If so, you may like this lily, a first bloom from a batch of seedLilium wardii
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Mr Moderator, Ian, PLease HELP. At last I have an image through, but obviously there is still a problem. I don't know why there is this big gap in the post or why the last word has got misplaced. But I'm so pleased with myself, that I'm now going to try another one.
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This stunning pea is Lathyrus splendens. I think it comes from southern California. It loves a hot, dryish place. Ian, there's a code at the end of the text after I've uploaded the image. It says it can be cut and pasted to move the image or the text, but I can't see any place to do that. So another gap I think.Lathyrus splendens
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Yeah! More to come but I think I'd better wait until I get some advice from Ian or Mark or someone. Thanks.
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Hi Lesley, well done on getting your pictures on to the forum. The large white area is part of your picture, it seems that you are reducing your picture but the 'page or canvas' is still there. It is as if you have placed it in the corner of a sheet of paper.
Try and find a way to crop the picture to the edges and delete the white bits.
I have done that but I cannot go back in and edit your pictures on the original post so here they are again cropped.


Now when you want to place a picture before you click the upload attachment button hit the return key to start a new line. That ensures you do not get words in funny places like you have above, everyone makes this mistake in the begining.
When you preview the post if you want to change anything you have to do that in the small window at the bottom of the page where you wrote the original message, you cannot make the change in the 'preview'.
Hope this helps, it is not easy trying to write it down I could show you in two minutes.
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Thanks Ian, I'll see what I can do. But I didn't downsize the pics here, because I had to take a long and circuitous route to use them. They were downsized on the camera itself then printed then scanned to a floppy disc and accessed from there at that size. I phoned Susan who is helpful as always and she has told me about isolating the code further down the page so I'll try again now.

No, for now I can't make it work. I can get the last word of text into the right place but can't get rid of the gap. Tried adding another pic to fill the gap but just got ANOTHER gap. Tried uploading 2 pics at once but that didn't work either. I'll try again later.
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it looks like the images are scanned on a flatbed because the same dirty marks are on both images. Look at the bottom of each white part.

What photo imaging software are you using?
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Lesley, if you are scanning on a flatbed scanner then the image will bethe size of the flatbed, unless you define the area to be scanned. As Ian Y. said you need to take it into your imaging software (something like Photoshop) and crop the image to the size of the pix. otherwise you will always have that huge space. Is there no way for you to download images from camera direct to computer - that is what we all do.
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I use Windows XP (home) which has software built into it. No need to use the camera's software at all. I also use Paintshop Pro 7 to mess about with it. Only takes seconds from camera to Forum.
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Posted on Wednesday, February 16, 2005 - 12:26 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Lesley, you're pictures are great and I hope we get to see more! I hope I don't complicate matters further, but I use the downloadable program Irfanview, it's really easy to re-size and compress your photos without losing the quality. You can choose the quality of the jpegs when you click on 'Save As' and quite often you can reduce the file size without reducing the dimensions of the picture, and you don't even notice any changes in the picture quality usually. Of course if you can transfer your pictures from the camera straight onto the computer, the rest will be easy! :-)

Anyway, here are some photos from this morning, it's raining (again) but the sun has come out a little now.

My favourite Delphinium, "Volkerfrieden":

delph2

delph1

Lilium henryi, it's hard to get a good picture of these lilies, to show how graceful they are in person:

henryi

Cyclamen hederifolium leaves are starting to unfurl:

heder

My kitty watching things in the garden:

puss

Cheers,

Lauren
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Posted on Wednesday, February 16, 2005 - 3:36 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mark, The camera is a Panasonic and I loaded the software that came with it or rather, Roger did that. SD Viewer for DSC and Ulead Photoexplorer 8. The latter just seems to store the images because I can't access any way to DO anything with them. The SD viewer has those sorts of tools but again, can't access them as I can't access the Preview screen which is where everything is done. It may be wrongly loaded or a faulty CD or something.

Carol, see above, re downloading camera to computer. Have done this into a couple of programmes but while I don't want to involve everybody in my domestic problems, it has to said that Roger is much less than co-operative about me using his programmes or loading on anything else (his computer) which is why in desperation, I have been scanning (elsewhere) onto a floppy. Scanned from prints from the camera. And yes, it's a flatbed. I'm going off in half an hour to do some more so will take all these comments with me and see if I can get it sorted.

I appreciate all the suggestions and thank everyone for the support. Will get a new computer for myself as soon as I can.
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Posted on Wednesday, February 16, 2005 - 5:20 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

A couple of years ago, Anne, Ian and Billy Carruthers (who has, I believe, a nursery outside Edinburgh), had a look at the Old Man Range in Central Otago. Ian is displaying bravery beyond the call of duty, with Aciphylla aurea.
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Posted on Wednesday, February 16, 2005 - 8:44 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Lesley
Is this a new photo you have downloaded and cropped or one you already had?
Carol
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Posted on Wednesday, February 16, 2005 - 7:10 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Carol. This is a photo I've had since the Christies were here, I think 3 summers ago. They'll remember better than I can. I should have mentioned that it wasn't taken by me, but by the gardening page editor of the Otago Daily Times, our local rag. She came on the trip to the Old Man Range with us and subsequently did an article, with the photo in it. I got a copy of the photo and use it with the ODT's permission on the Forum. I scanned it (flatbed) then cropped it then resized it down to about 60KB. I think it's lost a little quality as it is very sharp in the original. I'm going to try the same process with a couple more Aciphyllas this morning.
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Posted on Wednesday, February 16, 2005 - 11:44 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Good luck Lesley!
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Posted on Thursday, February 17, 2005 - 12:25 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Carol.
Many years ago, the 30s I think, the English nurseryman Percy Picton bred a race of small Verbascums which he called Alstree or Alstre hybrids. They are thought to be quite vanished now, but this super pink is alive and well in New Zealand. One of my favourite things.
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Posted on Thursday, February 17, 2005 - 12:29 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Aciphylla kirkii was photographed in the Remarkables Range, near Queenstown.
Aciphylla kirkii
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Posted on Thursday, February 17, 2005 - 12:37 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

And finally for today, Aciphylla scott-thompsonii, the largest of all New Zealand's speargrasses. Dave Toole, who joined the Forum recently but who has been suspiciously quiet since then, looks as if he has a spike up his nostril but if he had, this would be a movie with sound. He would be leaping up and down and screaming fit to bring the sky down. The spines are 15cms long or more, and as sharp and hard as a sword!
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Posted on Thursday, February 17, 2005 - 4:29 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Damn it!!.I thought i had destroyed all those copies Lesley!!!.Definately not recommended as a way to clean your nose. I have been busy creating one FINAL project here at Alpine Haven. A sand /grit crevice garden which has just been planted out. Will attempt to post first "photies" this weekend of this and fish box troughs etc. etc.. I will be passing through your area tommorrow week just after lunch on the way to the St Mary Range field trip weekend. Would you like for me to drop off the Ridgella seedlings and if so what do you have available as a swop?. Regards Dave
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Posted on Tuesday, February 22, 2005 - 7:45 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Vireya rhodo.saxtons glow.Survives in a pot with attention to summer watering , minimal sun and shelter from frost.Dave
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Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 12:34 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dave do you grow the Rhododendron outside all year?

and now for a special Hellebore grown from seeds from either Taz or NZ.
H. 'Betty Ranniker'
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Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 1:40 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mark,

Betty is very much a northern Tassie lady.

Rob K
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Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 1:54 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Mark -Depends what you call out side.In winter i place the pot under the eaves of the house and reduce watering.In fact it requires, in this climate, reqular attention in summer to moisture so avoiding the roots getting too dry. The bush surrounding our property provides a microclimate and in winter max. frosts are 3 to 4 degrees C.,so no doubt that helps. Dave
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Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 3:24 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Wow Mark .What a special Helleborus .Gee --the thrill of raising ones own seed (rather than buying) it can't be matched can it !!!.A couple of plants that i have grown from seed and are flowering now are----Oxytropis megalantha .This lovely blue pea is x NARGS sown 03/02.----Castilleja miniata .
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This is x AGS sown 12/03 on an established pot of the drawf NZ rock lily Arthropodium candidum and i can't decide whether colour is red or orange !!!!
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Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 4:20 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I garden at about 1000 feet above sea level (300 m)and manage to keep alive and flowering several Vireya rhododendrons. In winter they go under the verandah, and I occasionally cover them with fleece (frost cloth.
H "Betty Ranicar" flowers for months here. The flowers are only just turning green now, well into summer. I will be keeping an eye out for seed Dave. Susan.
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Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 7:28 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Oops !!looks like i'm still having problems with formatting.I have had a bit of a play around and hopefully this Cyc.africanum
trial
and Geranium sps. from Papua New Guinea
trial
both flowering in the alpine house come out okay
Dave
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