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Paul Tyerman (Tyerman) Advanced Member Username: Tyerman
Post Number: 122 Registered: 10-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, December 31, 2004 - 1:35 pm: |   |
Howdy All, It's about 20 minutes past midnight on the 1st of January 2005 here, so I thought I'd have to post some pics to my friends here in the SRGC. I zipped out and took a few photos a few hours ago when it was still light, so that I'd have a few pics to put up to start the January in the Southern Hemisphere thread. Enjoy!!
Ismene x Festalis has opened it's first flower for the year in the last couple of days. Wonderfully delicate spidery flower!
Echinops 'Taplow Blue' finally has some of the globes "fully open" and looking stunning!! The bees and butterflies adore this plant, and it flowers now for the next month or so and then sporadically for the rest of summer. It's such a wonderful blue too!
Daylily 'Strawberry Candy' is among the various daylilies in flower at the moment.
Crinum x Powellii is just achieving full flower at the moment.
This is a relatively miniature agapanthus (grows to around 2 foot tall) but unlike many of the miniatures this has a dense packed head that stands perfectly upright instead of flopping about like so many of them do. No idea of the name of this one as it came from a friend, but definitely the best of the smaller varietes I have come across. All the very best for 2005 everyone! |
Paul Tyerman (Tyerman) Advanced Member Username: Tyerman
Post Number: 124 Registered: 10-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, January 02, 2005 - 11:35 am: |   |
Here's a couple more....
This is a cream Japanese Sacred Lotus (Nelumbo species) that grows quite successfully here for me. I have 3 different varieties at the moment but hope to get more as I can find them. I grow them directly in their own water bowls so that they can fill them but can't escape. They have the most awesome leaves on them, which repel water which then runs like mercury. Very cool!! LOL
Nerine 'Bright and Early' which is supposed to be early, but not THIS early. I'd be expecting it late February or March which is early for nerines here, but this one had its first flower actually open on New Year's Eve. This photo was taken on New Year's Day after I gave it a chance to fully open out. Paul T. Australia |
Mark Smyth (Mark__n_ireland)
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Post Number: 577 Registered: 10-2003
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, January 02, 2005 - 11:43 am: |   |
I recognise the centre of the lily from dried flowers arrangements. Your Nerine flowering now would be like ours flowering in June. |
Paul Tyerman (Tyerman) Advanced Member Username: Tyerman
Post Number: 125 Registered: 10-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, January 02, 2005 - 11:58 am: |   |
Mark, Yep, if the lotus flower sets seed the centre swells considerably and makes that lovely item for dried arrangements etc. The flower itself grows to about 4 foot or so high, sitting a little above the leaves. The leaves can get to a foot across each as well, standing up on tall stems. Fascinating plant. If you or others don't know the Japanese Sacred Lotus I can take a picture of the whole plant to show you how it looks? Won't be high quality as my camera doesn't have many pixels, but it will give you a pretty good idea. Paul T. Australia |
Anthony Darby (Adarby) Senior Member ( posting super hero) Username: Adarby
Post Number: 348 Registered: 6-2003
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, January 02, 2005 - 2:41 pm: |   |
What do you do with the lotus in winter Paul? I have tried one species indoors, but lost it through the winter, even though it was frost-free. I bought the seed from Chiltern Seeds. |
Paul Tyerman (Tyerman) Advanced Member Username: Tyerman
Post Number: 128 Registered: 10-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, January 02, 2005 - 8:17 pm: |   |
Anthony, Not a single thing. They stay out in their water bowls and I do absolutely nothing with them. They don't have any protection at all and just sail through. This doesn't apply to all of them though..... trial and error on varieties are what works out whether they grow or not. The 3 varieties (all purchased, not grown from seed) I have are Nelumbo nucifera (white with pink tips), the cream as pictured, and a dwarf double pink variety call 'Bmo Bmo Bhutan' (or Mbo Mbo Bhutan' I can never remember which spelling! LOL). I also know that 'Rosea' which is a tall double pink grows happily here but I haven't got a piece of it yet. They really have not problem with the cold at all. They form large tubers that look a bit like a massive banana "underground" and die off as soon as the first frosts hit. I've had the leaves decimated by hail at times and they just reshoot prolifically immediately. I feed them once a month with a waterplant feed tablet but other than that I do nothing at all with them. Paul T. Australia |
Susan More (Susan)
Member Username: Susan
Post Number: 33 Registered: 10-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, January 02, 2005 - 11:52 pm: |   |
I think the thing is, Paul has a great deal of heat in the growing season, and I suspect that Anthony, like us does not get prolonged spells of high temperatures. We find that with a number of things, The occasional frost doesn't hurt but the lack of consistently high temps in summer, does. Lotus would be hard to grow in Dunedin, where temps, at present, are not even out of the teens, and this is summer.
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Anthony Darby (Adarby) Senior Member ( posting super hero) Username: Adarby
Post Number: 353 Registered: 6-2003
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, January 03, 2005 - 12:09 am: |   |
I tried to grow mine in a south facing classroom window where temperatures in the classroom reach 30'C (one of these Public Private finance Partnerships where, by admission, the architect had never set foot in a school far less designed one, but that's Falkirk Council for you. We have these grills on the wall that pretend to be ventilation but the janny looked behind one and laughed. It was blocked up! We were given free standing fans which circulates the hot air and the heidy was amazed when it was demonstrated that the air in front of the fan was the same temperature as at the side.) I suspect the silvered windows (in a biology lab!) don't help, and our school 'greenhouse' (that's what it says on the door) is the second darkest room in the school, being under an overhanging roof (the physics dark room is darker), so we can grow mushrooms but not much else. |
Anthony Darby (Adarby) Senior Member ( posting super hero) Username: Adarby
Post Number: 360 Registered: 6-2003
Rating:  Votes: 2 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, January 11, 2005 - 10:48 pm: |   |
It's official! Scotland's average temperature for 2004 was 8.17'C making it the second warmest on record. Finding it was also the third wettest puts a bit of a dampner on that fact! I'm also sure that the average temperature for each month in 2004 would not be far away from 8.17'C! Someone has left a gate open because at the moment there is a wee bit of a draft outside. In fact we are having 100mph winds in Scotland which has made my laburnum lean somewhat. I hope Mark managed to batten down the hatches as the news from Northern Ireland is worse than here! |
Paul Tyerman (Tyerman) Advanced Member Username: Tyerman
Post Number: 139 Registered: 10-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, January 12, 2005 - 12:14 pm: |   |
Anthony, Here's hoping that yourself and Mark have no major problems. Here we had 35'C today, with 36, 38 and 33 forecast for the next few days. Not fun, but much better than parts of South Australia and Victoria where they are having massive bushfires which have killed around 10 people so far. 100mph winds are pretty impressive. Is there anything left afterwards? Keep us posted please. Paul T. Australia |
Susan More (Susan)
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Post Number: 34 Registered: 10-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, January 14, 2005 - 3:18 am: |   |
We finally have sunshine and a temperature of 28 deg C. Saw parts of Cumbria on television the other night and it looked as though they had bad flooding. Winds of 100 mph seemed to tip about 60 lorries over as well. Hope you have all survived. We have had the coldest wettest weather since 1945 (before my time so I don't remember it)and then we are told that there is a large iceberg broken loose from Antarctica and may be heading our way. This is due to global warming, I still can't make the connection. Susan, New Zealand |
Paul Tyerman (Tyerman) Advanced Member Username: Tyerman
Post Number: 142 Registered: 10-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, January 14, 2005 - 1:03 pm: |   |
Howdy All, 39.4'C today, so a tad warm! LOL Things aren't lasting long flower-wise at the moment. Still, thought you all might like to see a few things that are flowering at the moment. I've waited a while to see if anyone else from the southern hemisphere was going to load any pics, but looks like it is just me saturating the airwaves.
Cyclamen intaminatum seedling pot is sending up first flowers. Sown in April 2002 the flowers were a nice surprise that I found earlier this week.
Cyclamen purpurascens are putting flowers up at the moment which are always a joy. Nice to have evergreen cyclamen, plus the leaves on these are just so beautiful.
Lilium 'Mimosa Star' - about 7+ feet tall.
Lilium 'Muscadet'
Zantedeschia 'Lilac Mist' flowering for me for the first time having been growing it for 4 years (I have about 30 bulbs of it by now, but still only one flower!!). Don't know what the key to flowering this variety is, but all the other varieties I grow flower regularly. I was starting to think this one didn't actually HAVE flowers! LOL I'll leave the pics at that for now. All the best everyone. Cheers. Paul T. Australia. |
Margaret Young (Myoung)
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Post Number: 209 Registered: 3-2003
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, January 14, 2005 - 7:20 pm: |   |
More great pics, Paul, thank you. Don't you just love the markings on the C. intaminatum flowers? So dainty.... then there is the scent of the C. purpurascens, one of our favourites. Starts with us in about July/August ! These coloured Zantedeschias are becoming quite available here in the garden centres, I've noticed this past season. Some quite dwarf types, around 30 to 45 cms, some bigger, various colours, often looking completely fake! The florists are usuing them more, too. Obviously very much "on trend" here!I bought a pretty little salmon-pinky one for my Mother-in-law. I think she still has it alive! |
Mark Smyth (Mark__n_ireland)
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Post Number: 594 Registered: 10-2003
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, January 14, 2005 - 7:28 pm: |   |
I like intaminatum too and have a small group of them but they didnt perform too well this year. Would they be happier in a trough in full sun - when we get it! Paul great to see you guys called coloured forms of Zantedeschia Zantedeschia and not Calla |
Margaret Young (Myoung)
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Post Number: 211 Registered: 3-2003
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, January 14, 2005 - 7:39 pm: |   |
Mark, we have some C. intaminatum out in our bigger "slab" bed troughs. They get reasonable sun and the drainage is fierce. Niceto have the little chaps under glass to enjoy at eye level, though! Many of the Scots members will know that we have our very own precious "Calla" in the SRGC.... Calla, the generous and multi-talented wife of our famous Meconopsis expert, Dr James Cobb ! She is a delight to know at any time of year and does not need to keep her feet in the pond to be happy!! |
Paul Tyerman (Tyerman) Advanced Member Username: Tyerman
Post Number: 143 Registered: 10-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, January 14, 2005 - 8:16 pm: |   |
Mark, They're known as Callas here in Aus.... I just prefer Zantedeschia as that is their real name!! I often refer to them as Zants for short. Glad you're all liking the pics. It was too hot yesterday to bother going out and taking pics *grin*.... hopefully will get out next time the Tigridias are flowering as the big ones have started up for this year now. Paul T. Australia. |
Lesley Isabel Cox (Lcox)
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Post Number: 86 Registered: 10-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, January 15, 2005 - 1:40 am: |   |
Zantedeschias are generally known here too, as Calla. (Isn't that an old synonym?), especially as they're very big in the cut-flowers-for-export trade. There are gorgeous colours, reds, pinks, oranges, golds, lemons and whites, with various centre markings, often black. The species Z. aethiopica grows wild in milder, wetter parts of NZ, stunning, but weedy and a problem for cattle.
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Paul Tyerman (Tyerman) Advanced Member Username: Tyerman
Post Number: 150 Registered: 10-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, January 17, 2005 - 10:57 am: |   |
Howdy All, Some photos taken today......
An Echinopsis with rather striking flowers.
Habranthus martinezii, one of the "rainlilies".
Lilium henryi
A pale lavender salvia
Salvia 'Black and Blue'
Tigridia pavonia - white form with red bowl markings. Enjoy!! Paul T. Australia. |
Margaret Young (Myoung)
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Post Number: 219 Registered: 3-2003
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, January 17, 2005 - 9:10 pm: |   |
Habranthus martinezii is a new one to me, Paul. Very nice! And I love the Tigridia! Are those pleated leaves to the left the Tigridia leaves? Love 'em! Your canine family members must be well behaved to keep off all these great plants! M |
dave toole (T00lie)
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Post Number: 5 Registered: 1-2005
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, January 18, 2005 - 5:35 am: |   |
Hi again Paul.Seeing your Tigridia reminds me of a similar plant growing here called Rigidella orthanta.Its also from Mexico,has the same looking pleated leaves but the flowers are narrower and bright crimson. It stands out for sure!!!.I have seed forming which germinates readily. |
Mark Smyth (Mark__n_ireland)
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Post Number: 611 Registered: 10-2003
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, January 18, 2005 - 10:35 am: |   |
very nice selection. Margaret haven't your grown Tigridia? They are fantastic. I grow a big pot of them every year. The flowers are unbelievable to see in real life. They last only a day but they flower over a long period. They are in the garden centres now. |
Paul Tyerman (Tyerman) Advanced Member Username: Tyerman
Post Number: 159 Registered: 10-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, January 18, 2005 - 11:13 am: |   |
Maggi et al, The leaves to the side are the Tigridia leaves. All the genus that I have come across (I have about 6 or 7 direct species, plus a number of allied iridaceous relatives) have those leaves. These white ones are the normal "jockey caps" that are big and boofy. I like them, but prefer the species that can be so much more beautifully delicate. Tigridia vanhouttei is in bud at the moment and will flower within 10 days or so I'd imagine..... I'll see if I can come up with a pic from previous years and post it. Dave, I grow Rigidella orthantha myself. Only just up and too early to tell yet whether it will flower for me. I have had some seed set in the past, but not that often. Thankfully from one of those seed sets I have a few seedlings coming along, so hopefully once those are flowering size the increased number of clones will mean I get lots more seed!! They are something that I think would definitely be of interest to people. I'll see if I can dig up a pic of them to post with the Tigridia species. Cheers. Paul T. Australia. |
Paul Tyerman (Tyerman) Advanced Member Username: Tyerman
Post Number: 161 Registered: 10-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, January 18, 2005 - 11:33 am: |   |
Howdy again All, Here is a pic as promised of Rigidella orthantha.... the colour is accurate as it is an almost eye-popping orange red. Very electric.
Rigidella orthantha The following is Tigridia vanhouttei. The flower is only about an inch wide and very intricate as you can see. The plant grows to about 2 foot tall or more, with branching flower stems so there can be a few flowers out at one time. As with all the genus each flower only lasts a single day.
Tigridia vanhouttei I have photos of most of my other Tigridia species if anyone is interested, although technically they aren't "flowering now" in January. LOL Enjoy! Paul T. Australia. |
Margaret Young (Myoung)
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Post Number: 220 Registered: 3-2003
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, January 18, 2005 - 7:11 pm: |   |
WOW! These irids are just gorgeous! I have never bothered trying them from seed because I reckoned we'd never get enough sun and heat for them to really enjoy life. I have seen them sometimes as dried specimens in a garden centre but left them there for the same reason! If you think I could try them in a pot, perhaps in the three-glazed-wall part of my kitchen; then I'll look out for some and give 'em a go! I would not expect to find such fancy types as Paul and Co are growing, though, surely? And that Rigidella is startlingly bright, I love it! The Tigridia vanhouttei is like an exploded Scoliopus flower, almost! Same fab markings and colour. Yum! |
Lesley Isabel Cox (Lcox)
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Post Number: 93 Registered: 10-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, January 18, 2005 - 8:01 pm: |   |
I lost my Rigidella a few years ago when the bulbs got badly frosted. It was given to me by Stewart Preston down the road (of Trillium fame). So very pleased Dave, to hear you have seed coming. It's easy and quick from seed. If you have a little to spare....you know what I'm saying, don't you. |
Paul Tyerman (Tyerman) Advanced Member Username: Tyerman
Post Number: 162 Registered: 10-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, January 18, 2005 - 9:00 pm: |   |
Maggi, I've emailed you privately about the Tigridias..... not sure if you get my emails or not as often don't get a response (plus Ian mentioned at one time that my emails go to your Spam folder..... I guess your PC doesn't like me! LOL) Paul T. Australia. |
Paul Tyerman (Tyerman) Advanced Member Username: Tyerman
Post Number: 164 Registered: 10-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, January 18, 2005 - 9:20 pm: |   |
Lesley, My Rigidella take frost just fine for me, although they are not fully exposed. How cold do you get down to? Mine are growing in a very sandy bank so they get excellent drainage, which would mean that they stay drier in winter while dormant. I would imagine that soggy and cold would not be nice, but that applies to most of the Tigridias I think. However.... I don't think that any of the Tigridias/Rigidella etc like to be completely dried out as they have fleshy roots below the bulbs, which I think act as a secondary storage device. When repotting or moving these roots must be taken care of as they are there when dormant as well. The T. pavonias (the big jockey cap lilies) that are sold dried will take removal of those roots, but some of the species are touchier. Actually, some of the most amazing colours of jockey cap I've seen are from Kaydees seeds in NZ. I really msut look up their site and see whether they still offer them. They havea range of HUGE flowered forms in all sorts of colours. I have seen pics of some of them on one of the gardening lists and I really must track down some of their seed. Definitely worthwhile looking for if you don't already have them. Paul T. Australia. |
Margaret Young (Myoung)
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Post Number: 221 Registered: 3-2003
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, January 18, 2005 - 9:39 pm: |   |
Thanks, Paul Seems our ISP finds some of our friends dodgy! I must try to check the spam box more often!! I am interested in what Lesley says about the swollen storage roots on Tigridias .... like some of the juno irises and so on... this would also worry me about trying the dried bods offered in the garden centres. I'm going to have a look-see, anyhow! |
Mark Smyth (Mark__n_ireland)
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Post Number: 615 Registered: 10-2003
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, January 18, 2005 - 9:39 pm: |   |
Maggi they are so easy. Lift them in the autumn when the leaves are gone are keep 'em frost free. Here is one of mine
and one from Margaret Glynn's garden which is fully hardy outside on the rockery
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Margaret Young (Myoung)
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Post Number: 222 Registered: 3-2003
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, January 18, 2005 - 9:47 pm: |   |
Good grief, Mark, where do you imagine in our garden that the Boss would allow me to plant such things?? If it were not for the underplanting possibilities I wouldn't have half my stuff anyway!! If I want to try these plants I have to get them indoors as "houseplants" or else I stand no chance!Don't think there's anywhere outside in our setup where they'd be happy, really, either, remember, your climate is much different to ours and the lovely Margaet G's garden is much bigger than ours! |
Mark Smyth (Mark__n_ireland)
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Post Number: 616 Registered: 10-2003
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, January 18, 2005 - 9:50 pm: |   |
no bulb snobbery please hehe! I treat mine as annuals so could you. Mine are grown in a 20L pot but this year they are going in to the raised beds to tower above the annuals |
Margaret Young (Myoung)
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Post Number: 224 Registered: 3-2003
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, January 18, 2005 - 10:02 pm: |   |
The Boss does not admit to any plant snobbery.... well, apart from not liking doubles... oh, and roses which he cannot abide in any form!As far as the Boss (Ian Young)is concerned all plants may be equal (almost) but some Erythroniums are more equal than others!! Yes, it's a tough life here!!Another thirty-odd years of this and I may just decide to leave him! |
Mark Smyth (Mark__n_ireland)
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Post Number: 617 Registered: 10-2003
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, January 18, 2005 - 10:17 pm: |   |
dont tell him and just say look what the birds dropped! anyway have to go cos all this chat is keeping me up late and I'm up at 5 cos that well know DIY place is flying all, yes all, full time gardening staff from all over Ireland N&S, England, Scotland and Wales to Brum for the day to look at their ideas for 2005 |
dave toole (T00lie)
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Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, January 19, 2005 - 4:27 am: |   |
Lesley-I sure have taken to cyber space!Its cheaper than drugs ,alchohol and whatever!!!In answer to your hint for Rigidella seed the answer is NO!(i bet that raised your blood flow!!!)However i can do one better and offer you strong germinated home seed ,sown 04/04 as a swop.Will get them to you somehow.I want to send the currently forming seed overseas.---One large Golden Elm pruned and client happy.On to the next job !!. bye. |
Paul Tyerman (Tyerman) Advanced Member Username: Tyerman
Post Number: 165 Registered: 10-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, January 19, 2005 - 11:30 am: |   |
Mark, Nice pics. The big Tigridias are much more tolerant of the drying than the species. The species can be dried, but there is more chance of suffering I think. They certainly prefer to be left in the ground. If I were going to be lifting them each year what I'd do is plant them in a small pot and bury that in the ground.... and then once they have died down lift the small pot out of the ground and let it dry out. That minimises the chance of actual damage to the plant itself. You can then repot it easily later and then put it back into the ground in the pot. Btw... If you're interested your second photo (the yellow one) is Cypella herbertii. They're in the same alliance but are structurally slightly different to Tigridias. I have a bunch of different species of them as well. They don't seem to have quite the same amount of root and can be dried off easier in most cases, although there are species of Cypella that resent being moved too. This is another in the alliance..... Phalocallis coelestris. It is flowering for me at the moment. This is also sold as Cypella plumbea and Cypella coelestris in different countries, but I think that Phalocallis is currently the correct genus for it (it does change periodically between that and Cypella it seems *grin*)
Phalocallis coelestris (Syn. Cypella coelestris) Paul T. Australia. |
dave toole (T00lie)
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Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, January 19, 2005 - 7:18 pm: |   |
Paul and others-- Another in the alliance is Gelasine azurea.As vivid as the Rigidella is, in orange/red,i find the gelasine also but this time in a bright blue colour. This one is from Brazil i think, and once when repotting i noticed the unusual colour of the bulbs -a deep orange.Also has the same pleated leaves .I used to grow this in my alpine house( which is basically just a metal hoop tunnel house with only a roof cover .The sides are open to allow air movement and cooler temps)Wanting more room i experimented with growing the Gelasine outside in a large pot where it grows strongly,so is hardier than i thought.!!Interestingly seed i originally received as Gelasine turned out as your Cypella coelestris.One other time they turned out to be Cypella plumbea,so we never know what we are going to get from seedex's-all interesting though!!.Bye. |
Lesley Isabel Cox (Lcox)
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Post Number: 95 Registered: 10-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, January 19, 2005 - 8:02 pm: |   |
Thanks Paul, for your Rigidella notes. I said it was frost but on rethinking, maybe it was drought! (yes, even here in Otago.) We don't get much lower here than -3 or 4degC, on my hill, though the plain below gets down to -7 or 8 sometimes.The bulbs were in a large pot with my juno irises so were thoroughly dried off after they flowered. I said earlier that I was worried about the junos with the continuous rain we've had this summer. I started to unpot them yesterday and found they had lapped the water up! The bulbs and roots are fat and crisp and looking very good. I'm planting most out this time, the big species like magnifica, bucharica, cycloglossa in the garden and I'm putting the little ones like tubergeniana, rosenbachiana and others in raised beds (those L-shaped ones Dave, which I'm replanting). Anyway, I'm sure Dave will let me have a little Rigidella seed to start over. |
Paul Tyerman (Tyerman) Advanced Member Username: Tyerman
Post Number: 167 Registered: 10-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, January 19, 2005 - 8:33 pm: |   |
Dave, Gelasine azurea grows quite happily here out in the full open in 6 inch black plastic pots, so it is quite hardy to both heat and down to -9'C. Lesley, Juno irises is one I haven't mastered. I lose bucharica every time I try it and I never know whether it is because I give it too much or too little water in summer. I will try it again one of these days when I can source it again..... or find someone here in Canberra who has some to spare so it is already acclimatised to the area. I do so want to get the junos working as I love them. Iris cycloglossa is supposedly the odd one out in the genus, growing happily in garden conditions with summer water required. I have just ordered one of them to try!! Paul T. Australia. |
Paul Tyerman (Tyerman) Advanced Member Username: Tyerman
Post Number: 169 Registered: 10-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, January 19, 2005 - 9:04 pm: |   |
Dave et al, Here is a pic taken of Gelasine azurea earlier this season. It is not in flower at the moment!
Gelasine azurea. It is a little variable in shading, and I think that mine has a touch of purple to the blue, but still much closer to pure blue than most. One of my favourite blues is Commelina coelestris which is a true electric blue and I love it. It flowers most of the summer.
Commelina coelestris - flowering now, but this is a pic I loaded a while back. Not sure how to access the one i already had loaded, so I uploaded this new version of it. Paul T. Australia. |
Lesley Isabel Cox (Lcox)
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Post Number: 98 Registered: 10-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, January 20, 2005 - 12:09 am: |   |
Paul, for Juno irises, as a general rule, don't give them ANY water once the leaves are dying off. Having said that, I now believe that many, certainly the taller growing species, can take our Aus/NZ summer rainfall, provided they are in a well-drained situation. I also now believe that the taller species are better in the garden than in pots. I don't think I. cycloglossa would be grateful for summer watering, any more than the others. It may TOLERATE what falls out of the sky, but I certainly wouldn't actually be watering it. It flowers much later than others but still seems to die off around the same time. It may be sacrilege to say so, but I rather think some of the mystique surrounding these gorgeous things, is over-rated, at least in our climate. Parts of Central Otago after all, have terrain and climate like the back end of Afghanistan and I long to grow junos there. My species that are naturally small have done very well in the last year or two but having now committed that to print, I'll probably lose the lot. |
Paul Tyerman (Tyerman) Advanced Member Username: Tyerman
Post Number: 170 Registered: 10-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, January 20, 2005 - 8:38 pm: |   |
Lesley, Thanks for the info. Your last comment is sounding a tad paranoid my dear! LOL Paul T. Australia. |
Mark Smyth (Mark__n_ireland)
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Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, January 20, 2005 - 10:47 pm: |   |
I would like to try some species Iris but I'm scared |
Paul Tyerman (Tyerman) Advanced Member Username: Tyerman
Post Number: 171 Registered: 10-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, January 21, 2005 - 11:45 am: |   |
Mark, It really depends which species you're wanting. Some are very easy, and others aren't. Which ones are you interested in? Paul T. Australia. |
Lesley Isabel Cox (Lcox)
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Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, January 21, 2005 - 11:49 pm: |   |
Paranoid maybe Paul, it's the weather I think and the fact that I'm still struggling with this b.....software. Think I may have a faulty disk. And if Carol has the occasional senior moment, that's nothing to my latest. I couldn't remember my best friend's name this morning! |
Lesley Isabel Cox (Lcox)
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Post Number: 104 Registered: 10-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, January 21, 2005 - 11:59 pm: |   |
Hey! I'm an advanced member! Or old is probably more appropriate. Old in sin as my granny would have said. Mark, there are hundreds of irises suitable for rock-garden culture and I'm sure most UK nurseries would have a selection, from the little dwarf bearded kinds, to the gorgeous reticulate bulbs (like Ian's histrioides `Major') to the masses of little rhizomatous species and hybrids. Any halfway decent iris book would be a starting point. Try II. innominata, sintenisii, cristata, gracilipes and more as well as reticulata, winogradowii, magnifica, bucharica. These are all easy. The seed lists offer good stuff and the British Iris Soc have an excellent list as well as an interesting Yearbook, though there's too much tall bearded material for my tastes. Chacun a son gout. (No, that's goo, not gowt). I can't believe you don't grow irises. Are you taking the mickey?
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Paul Tyerman (Tyerman) Advanced Member Username: Tyerman
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Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, January 22, 2005 - 1:00 am: |   |
Lesley, Mark has a severe shortage of space...... he might have been able to resist the irises this long because of that..... but we'll fix him won't we!?? LOL Definitely worthwhile trying some of the smaller irises Mark, even with your limited space. It doesn't stop me! *grin* I would assume that you must grow some of the reticulata iris cultivars though don't you? They would fit right in with little pockets amongst Galanthus and hardy geraniums. Paul T. Australia. |
Mark Smyth (Mark__n_ireland)
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Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, January 22, 2005 - 5:10 pm: |   |
of course I have Iris but you can count them on one hand. I have a few dwarf bearded one of which is coming out as it is getting huge at the expense of flowers, a few reticulata and ?attica. I would like some of those stunners that Janis sells but I'm scared I'd kill'em. Maybe when I get my new greenhouse I'll buy a few. |
Paul Tyerman (Tyerman) Advanced Member Username: Tyerman
Post Number: 179 Registered: 10-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, January 23, 2005 - 9:38 pm: |   |
Hi All, Some more things in flower at the moment....
Zantedeschia 'Chianti' is actually a bit more purple than this. Much darker than Lilac Mist. Very pretty!
Lilium 'Black Beauty'
This is the creamy white Tigridia without markings that I have mentioned before. It sort of has green markings and it is definitely a creamy colour rather than pristine white like the other one with the red bowl. Enjoy!! Paul T. Australia. |
Paul Tyerman (Tyerman) Advanced Member Username: Tyerman
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Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, January 25, 2005 - 10:58 am: |   |
Howdy All, For those of you not totally bored with seeing pics from this Southern Hemispherer's garden (other than the 2 pics from Mark they're all mine! :-( ).... here's a couple more pics taken today.
Agastache 'Apricot Sprite' - I actually know nothing at all about this one. Looks like it could be an ally of some of the nepetas etc? Very pretty, even if I know nothing about it. LOL
This is a pale pink Eucomis I have in flower at the moment. Starts the season with lovely dark purple leaves, that gradually bronze and end up green late in the season.
Lilium 'Leslie Woodriffe' is only first year for me and still small, but once established it should have 8 foot stems with up to 15 or 20 flowers on it. Already stunning, even with only a couple of flowers this year.
Lilium speciosum album is just SO pristine!!
Zauschneria - California Fuchsia is the common name I think? Glorious colour to put it mildly. Absolutely glows!! |
Robert Krejzl (Rob_krejzl)
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Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, January 26, 2005 - 5:34 am: |   |
Paul, Never sure whether I actually like Orienpets, though I'm now growing a few from seed. I suppose I have a love/hate relationship with their vigour and garden presence. Leslie Woodriff is one of the better ones though. |
john forrest (Jof)
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Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, January 26, 2005 - 11:33 am: |   |
Paul I, for one, am certainly not bored by your beautiful pics. Keep them coming. I have been most surprised by the range of plants you can grow and to such a beautiful standard.(I am relatively new to the Forum) Is there anything that you can't grow and hanker after? Cheers John Forrest |
Paul Tyerman (Tyerman) Advanced Member Username: Tyerman
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Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, January 26, 2005 - 12:08 pm: |   |
John, Glad that you're enjoying the pictures. Re things I can't grow but have a hankering for..... I do rather love those gorgeous blue Gentians, but they are VERY iffy here. Lyn Edwards (who is probably reading this) can grow them to a reasonable degree, but they really don't like the high summer temps. Although I have shade I dont have the level of cool that Lyn has in a couple of places in her garden (lots of brick etc in her courtyard, which in shade help to keep things much cooler). There are also some nice tropical things such as some of the gingers which I love but can't easily grow here, although I can lift and dry them in winter etc. I am even trying Amorphophallus titanum (the worlds largest floral inflorescence) which is most definitely tropical. Will be fun to try, even if it is going to be somewhat difficult as it has no set dormancy period and each leaf can last up to 18 months. Won't be too bad while it is small, but once it gets larger it will be a different matter. A enjoy a challenge! What you've seen here is really a fraction of what I grow. In the 'I'm New Here' thread I mention many of the things I grow in my intro.... even that is only the families that I have larger collections of. I am well and truely addicted to gardening, that is for sure! LOL I like to push the boundaries. Paul T. Australia. |
Susan More (Susan)
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Post Number: 35 Registered: 10-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, January 26, 2005 - 10:22 pm: |   |
Paul, Gentians are one of the things that grow really well here. In fact, have a hybrid (large) that has seeded all over my rock garden, and I have a difficult time getting it out. I have to say, that the colour is beautiful at this time of year. Today it reflects the sky. I would have difficulty growing some of the more "tropical" things you grow. |
Paul Tyerman (Tyerman) Advanced Member Username: Tyerman
Post Number: 188 Registered: 10-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, January 27, 2005 - 1:57 am: |   |
Susan, Do you have a picture of your gentian? Sounds interesting. I don't know a lot about gentians as I haven't done much research into them other than finding out that most of them won't like my heat. I know there are some species that don't mind it, but they tend to be the larger ones with smaller flowers of which barely look like Gentians. LOL Paul T. Australia. |
Susan More (Susan)
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Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, January 27, 2005 - 3:26 am: |   |
Here you are Paul, a little gentian for you.
a Dactylorhiza flowering at present
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Susan More (Susan)
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Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, January 27, 2005 - 5:11 am: |   |
Have had Lesley here for the afternoon while we try to sort her compression problems - photos that is, not our personal size! Anyway she brought with her the Disa uniflora, that I managed to photograph. It is a South African ground orchid, which grows in wet places, apparently likes running water (probably also likes heat). The colour is very hot too isn't it?
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Susan More (Susan)
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Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, January 27, 2005 - 5:25 am: |   |
Paul, another couple of gentians.
This is how big some of them grow, they are almost smothering Sorbus reducta.
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Paul Tyerman (Tyerman) Advanced Member Username: Tyerman
Post Number: 191 Registered: 10-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, January 27, 2005 - 5:25 am: |   |
Susan, Great pics. Which of those is the Gentian that is seeding and weeding around for you? They all look too lovely to be a weed! LOL Which Dactyllorhiza is that? Looks a bit like D. fuchsii which I had flower here a couple of months ago, although NOTHING like that sort of size of flowerhead. That must be stunning in person with so many flowers. How tall is the flower stem? They aren't really ideally suited to our heat and I have been told that they'll dwindle over time..... mine is only new from a friend this year and I'll await next year to see whether it comes back and flowers again or starts to get smaller. The Disa can grow with care here..... I know a few in the local Orchid Society who grow them. They do well in pure sphagnum moss (live not the dried and powdered stuff) in a self-watering pot. Definitely an unbelievable colour to their flowers, that is for sure. Great pics. Paul T. Australia. |
Susan More (Susan)
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Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, January 27, 2005 - 5:41 am: |   |
It is Dactylorhiza maculata ssp fuchsii. Here is another photo of it. It grows to about 40 cms. I grow others and if they are happy they seem to seed also. Sometimes into seed pots or the gravel path.
Lesley had the Disa in straight spagnum. The gentians grow very big and seed everwhere, even into cracks in the path. They tend to smother small plants. I then have to pick them and put them in the house, as they last for ages in a vase.
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Paul Tyerman (Tyerman) Advanced Member Username: Tyerman
Post Number: 193 Registered: 10-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, January 27, 2005 - 8:43 am: |   |
Susan, The Dactyllorhiza is probably the same as I grow.... would love it if it had that wonderfully packed flowerhead on mine, but to be honest as I said above I'll just be happy if mine keeps on flowering! LOL Do you know which gentian species they are? How tall do they get? I have a couple of places where plants of a decent size will fit right in providing they can compete with the other things, and those sound like they can. The vivid blue would be a wonderful addition..... provided they could actually take our summer heat though? Paul T. Australia. |
Paul Tyerman (Tyerman) Advanced Member Username: Tyerman
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Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, January 27, 2005 - 11:01 am: |   |
Howdy Again All, This little stinker opened for me today......
Typhonium brownii. By stinker... I mean STINKER. This one pongs more than any other aroid I have had flower for me yet, including Dracunculus vulgaris, Helicodicerus muscivorus and Arum dioscoridis, and I thought the last of those was pretty bad before this one flowered for me! LOL T. brownii opens in the afternoon and then pongs in the evening. By tomorrow morning it will no longer have an unpleasant scent, so I can quite happily put up with it, and the male flowers will have opened at the base of the spadix and be covered in fluffy musk-pink pollen. Altogether a somewhat different colour combination eh? The flower is around 6 or so inches to the tip. Something a little less offensive I also had open today was Roscoea purpurea var procera.
Roscoea purpurea var procera. There seems to be fairly sporadic flowering from my Roscoeas this year for some reason, rather than having quite a lot of flowers like I would usually have had by this time. Don't know why, but I guess that this droubt it telling on them, despite the watering I give them. They are all grown in small black plastic pots and I would generally say that they love it!! Paul T. Australia. |
Mark Smyth (Mark__n_ireland)
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Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, January 27, 2005 - 7:23 pm: |   |
keep 'em coming Paul. It might push the rest in to action |
Margaret Young (Myoung)
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Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, January 27, 2005 - 9:26 pm: |   |
Good grief, hope Ian Y doesn't notice the Typhonium and Paul's description... he delights in planting these stinkers where I least expect them... I can just imagine him seeking this brute out to plant next to a favourite daphne or suchlike!! Hope it is hard to source!! Disa uniflora: we grew this for a while from the late, great Scottish plantsman, Jack Crosland. It was SO beautiful, the flowers were about three inches across, that's about 7.62 centimetres! Jack was a great grower and exhibitor of many fine alpines, cushion plants, all the classics, but he had a very great fondness for orchids, cypripediums etc and especially Pleiones. How we miss him, but the SRGC is lucky to still have the support of his widow, the charming Mrs Peg Crosland. Where would the club be without the efforts of these enthusiasts over so many years? |
Paul Tyerman (Tyerman) Advanced Member Username: Tyerman
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Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, January 27, 2005 - 9:47 pm: |   |
Maggi, My Typhonium has actually been starting to multiply the last couple of years, so it could be VERY easy for Ian to source a tuber! LOL VERY easy indeed!! *grin* Does he grow the other things such as Dracunculus vulgaris, Helicodicerus muscivorus and Arum dioscoridis? I also have Amorphophallus species as well, which I have never flowered yet but am hoping and Am. konjac might do it this coming spring as I am pouring the fertiliser into it this year. All deliciously stinky! ROTFL Paul T. Australia. |
Susan More (Susan)
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Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, January 27, 2005 - 10:23 pm: |   |
Hi Paul, There's usually plenty of seed, if you want some just tell me. I also grow Willow gentians, G asclepiadea and it has plenty of seed. I feel though that they don't like excessive heat, as my sister-in-law in Central Otago (35 C yesterday) lost hers last summer. The other gentians face on a northerly slope, well drained but do have afternoon shade from a large oak. Susan |
Paul Tyerman (Tyerman) Advanced Member Username: Tyerman
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Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, January 27, 2005 - 11:47 pm: |   |
Howdy All, With my 200th post I thought I'd have to post a few more pics from the garden. Given this is one of the supposedly more "quiet" times in the garden there is really SO much flowering right now once you get in and look at it.
x Pardancanda norissii - an iris relative that flowers for quite a while in summer. The flower is a bit over 2 inches wide so quite noticeable.
Tiger Lily
Double Tiger lily.
Symphymandra hoffmannii - although it wouldn't surprise me if this was now a Campanula? Certainly looks like one.
Clematis 'Golden Tiara' Quite a lot of other things in flower such as the perennial sweet pea (deep pink flowers, sets seed readily), Kniphofia, Tigridia, Platycodon, Scabiosa, Roses, Salvias, Crepe Myrtle, Corydalis, Hibiscus syriacus, Dahlias, Streptocarpus, spot flowering on Magnolias and Wisterias, Snapdragons, Vincas, Ismene etc. Paul T. Australia. |
Paul Tyerman (Tyerman) Senior Member ( posting super hero) Username: Tyerman
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Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, January 27, 2005 - 11:55 pm: |   |
Howdy Again, Here's just a followup on the Typhonium in case anyone is interested. Still a bit pongy this morning as we have quite a cool morning with cloud.... although just starting to burn off now so will get to the 30'C which it is forecast today I think. The male flowers have not opened yet so there is no pink pollen, but you can see that the flower has opened right out now. At the moment the base is full of little beetles which you can sort of see in the second picture.
Typhonium brownii - day 2. Nowhere near as brightly coloured (although it is a cloudy morning rather than being sunny like yesterday's photo), particularly the spadix.
Beetles in the base of the Typhonium BTW... is there a wildlife thread around anywhere? Thought some of you might like to see some of the birdlife in particular that we get in our garden? let me know if there is one, or if anyone would like one started? Paul T. Australia. |
Lesley Isabel Cox (Lcox)
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Post Number: 125 Registered: 10-2004
Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, January 28, 2005 - 2:06 am: |   |
Paul, do the beetles pollinate the Typhonium? And does your Helicodicerus muscivorus set seed? We here in Dunedin are fortunate to have nearby at Portobello on the Otago Peninsula, a couple who grow Disa species and also breed hybrids. The people are South African themselves, I think, as well as their Disas. I have a pink and an orange as well as the red which Susan photographed. They should be in bloom soon. |
Paul Tyerman (Tyerman) Senior Member ( posting super hero) Username: Tyerman
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Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, January 28, 2005 - 9:50 am: |   |
Lesley, The beetles would pollinate I would imagine if there were two blooms blooming the day after each other. Neither the Typhonium nor the Helicodicerus have ever set seed for me. I have also only ever had one flower out at a time. However..... The setup for most aroids is that the first day the female flowers are out, then the second day the male flowers. With many species there is a set of tendrils that cover the entrance to the chamber below the flower where the stink comes from and there the receptive female flowers are ...... these tendrils can be pushed against by the carrion insects and they can enter the chamber looking for the rotten meat. These tendrils cannot push back the other way, so the insects are trapped for the night. During the night the tendrils shrivel (and the female flowers are no longer receptive) and the male flowers open, showering the captives in pollen (but because the female flowers are no longer receptive they cannot be "self-pollinated"). In the morning the insects find they are free so, covered in pollen, they head off to find another flower that is just opening. Once they find a new flower they head into the chamber below and the pollen they are carrying pollinates the receptive females... etc. Now some genus and species can self fertilise apparently (think Arisaema flavum where every single flowerhead produces seed apparently, and many species of Arum appear to set seed on a single flower) and in others depending on the age of the plant the flowers produced will be either male or female exclusively (this happens in a lot of Arisaemas). I know this is longwinded but I do not know which method both the Typonium and the Helicodicerus use and I am trying to explain why they may have never set seed for me. For that matter I have never had a single seed set on my Dracunculus vulgaris despite having numerous flowers out, while in the US I know that they set seed freely. It may mean that differing insect vectors don't work here in my area compared to elsewhere in the world? Aer you still awake Lesley, or have I bored you into a stupour!? LOL I wish I knew the answer to why they never set seed, but maybe this year the Typhonium might? Who knows. Paul T. Australia. |
Mark Smyth (Mark__n_ireland)
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Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, January 28, 2005 - 5:30 pm: |   |
yes a wildlife forum would be good. |
Margaret Young (Myoung)
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Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, January 28, 2005 - 7:46 pm: |   |
Paul, I'm glad that you find the prospect of my being stunk out of my garden funny, but I would prefer you not to encourage the Boss in his evil ways! Of the other smellers you mention, he only grows Arum dioscoridis....so far! Thanx for this extra pics of the inner workings of the flower. Love this stuff! Re wildlife forum page, this has been suggested before but no-one started it yet, so I will! See General Forum section! |
Paul Tyerman (Tyerman) Senior Member ( posting super hero) Username: Tyerman
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Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, January 28, 2005 - 8:21 pm: |   |
Margaret, When it comes to aroids I will encourage evilness!! LOL I can also quite easily send his evilness offsets of both Helicodicerus and Drancunculus if he wants them, plus if there are any other Arums that he is missing it is possible that I would have pieces of them as well for him? Only after being approved by you first of course! *wink* Paul T. Australia. |
Lesley Isabel Cox (Lcox)
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Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, January 29, 2005 - 1:18 am: |   |
Thanks Paul, for your most interesting explanation of aroid fertilization. All good stuff. I have one gardening friend (male, single and possibly a reader of this forum so I shan't name him), who says he doesn't need sex in the bedroom, he has so much in the garden. Whether it's more exciting ot not, is another matter. |
Paul Tyerman (Tyerman) Senior Member ( posting super hero) Username: Tyerman
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Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, January 29, 2005 - 4:14 am: |   |
Lesley, Glad you enjoyed the info.... wasn't sure whether people already knew it or would be interested or not. Like I said, it applies differently to different genus and species within genus..... and some aroids set seed very freely even with one flower. I really don't know which is which. LOL We joke in my house about me going out to have sex in the garden when I head to the door armed with my trusty paintbrush. I have a couple of small paintbrushes kept specifically for that purpose now. I just tell Yvonne that "I'm off for some sex in the garden" and she has a good laugh. *grin* Paul T. Australia. |
Kjeld Jacobsen (Jac)
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Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, January 29, 2005 - 10:40 am: |   |
Paul, Your remarks re using paintbrushes for sex in the garden or the greenhouse as regards security is of doubtful value. - well, you wil have babies, but who's??? It's the safest way to have hybrid crossing!!! How do you clean the brushes between each act of sexual intercourse. Have a look in the microscope after cleaning, even after sterilising the brushes, you still got viable pollen grain remaining. It's simply impossible to clean off the sperm cells of the hairs of your paintbrush. The only way to make a safe CP is using e.g. a small cottonpellet/a pair of tweezers or the very best: a tiny cotton bud used disposable. Do'nt forget to cover the pistil afterwards by for instance a French letter, cherub's skin or simply a teabag. Concerning sex in the bedroom : still use your paint roller. yours, /jac |
Anthony Darby (Adarby) Senior Member ( posting super hero) Username: Adarby
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Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, January 29, 2005 - 5:04 pm: |   |
I understood Methylated spirits (or ethanol) was a good solution for sterilizing paint brushes? |
Paul Tyerman (Tyerman) Senior Member ( posting super hero) Username: Tyerman
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Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, January 29, 2005 - 8:25 pm: |   |
Jac, You make good points re pollination. I don't actually do a LOT of it to be honest, just the odd bit and piece here and there. Nothing incredibly important and rarely multiple varieties of one species/genus. I hadn't thought of the cotton bud but will definitely keep that in mind for the future if doing anything that I feel is important to get pure seed. Very glad you made the posting as reminded me that I really should do a better job of making sure that what I pollinate ARE pure. Thanks heaps!! Paul T. Australia. |
Graham Fleming (Good_friend) Recent Member Username: Good_friend
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Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, February 07, 2005 - 4:27 am: |   |
Hi A few photos of what is out at the moment.
Cyclamen purpurescens
Pot of cyclamen purpurescens
Geranium
Small colchicum
Small colchicum from the side Tte colchicum is flowering in mid-summer because we have had some unseasonal cold weather. Graham Fleming Canberra Australia |
Paul Tyerman (Tyerman)
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Rating: N/A Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, February 07, 2005 - 11:20 am: |   |
Graham, Might be worthwhile shifting this to the February thread rather than here in the January thread? By the end of each month the threads take quite a while to load for people with slower connections. Which species of Colchicum is it that is already up? You're ahead of me, that is for sure. Certainly not cool weather anymore though, is it! Paul T. also in Canberra, Australia |