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Lauren Bertoni (Laurenlolly)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, November 01, 2005 - 5:37 am: |    |
Can I start the new thread, can I can I can I?!  I have many pretties that are flowering right now.
A lovely weird flower, Sprekelia formosissima:
My small clump of Rhodohypoxis baurii:
One of my Vireya Rhododendrons is in bloom right now, they are so tropical-looking. This one is Coral Flare:
The pristine Dicentra spectabilis var alba:
And not sure about the naming of this one, it is labelled Rhododendron daviesii, and has a wonderful scent, though not as strong as my R. luteum:
That's all for now! Enjoy,
Lauren |
Martin Baxendale (Martinb)
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Lauren, That last one looks okay for Rhodo. (azalea) 'Daviesii', which I've grown for many years, and my parents for decades before that. The strong scent sounds right too. The Vireya rhodo is stunning!
Martin Baxendale, Glos, UK |
Marjorie Smith (Grannysmith)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, November 01, 2005 - 10:26 am: | |
Great pictures Lauren, your sprekelia is way ahead of mine,which is nowhere near flowering. I lost my white dicentra. If yours happens to set seeds can I buy some of you or swap something? That white rhodo is glorious. Well done! |
Lauren Bertoni (Laurenlolly)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, November 02, 2005 - 7:08 am: | |
Hi Grannysmith, fancy running into you here!  I have potfuls of the white Dicentra, which will need dividing this winter, so I will happily give you a piece. I have been looking for some pink ones actually. I bought some, but the weird weather we had in early spring has made them all deformed, I hope they recover. I needed to repay you for that Euphorbia you gave me last time anyway :-)
Cheers,
Lauren |
Lesley Isabel Cox (Lcox)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, November 02, 2005 - 10:42 pm: | |
I can't let Lauren sit here on her own. Incidentally, has anyone heard from Paul lately? I emailed him a while back but have had no reply. Guess things aren't too flash with him just now.
Those below are out here at present, except for the gum tree, which is down the road a bit.
Incarvillea zhongdianensis is much lower than other species but the flower is just as flamboyant - not to say gaudy.
I have this as Linum univerve but doubt the name. Maybe uninerve? It's very like L. capitatum.
Lewisia pygmaea x rediviva is long-lived and reliable and comes true from seed. Good plant for a hot trough.
Telesonix jamesii, which here, needs a cool, moist soil.
I like the tufting habit of the spring campanulas, this one is Campanula aucheri.
One of many flattish or mounded penstemons whose names confuse me. I have this as Penstemon menziesii microphyllus
It's a shame that Sedum pilosum is monocarpic and dies after flowering but in the meantime it makes a beautiful plant for pot or trough and is generous with seed so that a little colony is easy to achieve, self-seeding into a gravelly mix.
I can't claim any credit for Ranunculus lyallii as it was in bud when I brought it home from the Frit weekend. It will probably never look so good again.
Lesley Cox, Lower South Island, New Zealand |
Lesley Isabel Cox (Lcox)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, November 03, 2005 - 12:27 am: | |
And another batch.
Dianthus `Marybank' is a seedling from `Whatfield Wisp' similar in habit and flower shape but the colour is much richer and the scent is outstanding, scenting the whole garden. Beautiful!
A most under-rated plant and rarely seen, in NZ anyway, is the little American Chrysogonum virginicum which makes a mat and loves a cool place.
This pic is a mess but I want urgently to have it identified please. Ian? or someone? I bought it 12 years ago from Potterton and Martin in the UK, as Fritillaria sibthorpiana which I'm pretty sure it's not as the leaves are wrong - a basal pair, two up the stem and one back of the flower. The flower shape isn't right for carica. The yellow is overlaid with greenish veining both inside and out and the nectaries are just small patches of the same green, not very defined. The style is stubby and divided but not deeply so. Any suggestions would be appreciated as nothing in Pratt and Jefferson-Brown seems quite to fit.
Calochortus amabilis is a favourite and flowers for about 3 months in a raised bed and a trough. I wish it would set a little more seed though.
The arisaema season is well under way and at some time soon I'll go to the Dunedin Botanic Gardens to take some of the pics I just missed last year by not having my camera quite in time.Arisaema sikokianum is just about finished. This seedling has a very good leaf too.
Arisaema taiwanense is a new one for me this year, given as a batch of 1 year seedlings 2 years ago so that's just 3 from seed to flowering. Again, a superb leaf and stem complement an exciting flower/spathe.
A couple of years ago I bought a tuber of A. nepenthoides from a nurseryman in NZ, for $40 (gulp, gulp.) It was dormant and not very large, though it has since grown on. Just 4 months later, I went to the DBG stall at our big Rhodo. Day sale and bought 15 of the same, potted and about to bloom, for $3.50 each. There has been quite a bit of variation in the colouring of the batch. Here are a couple.
And to finish this lot, the first of the doubles, Trillium grandiflorum NOT `Snow Bunting' but very nice all the same. 
Lesley Cox, Lower South Island, New Zealand |
J.Ian Young (Iyoung)
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Lesley, from the picture and your description of the style of your yellow fritillaria I suspect it is F. bithynica another possibility is the polymorphic F. carica. Sometimes it is difficult to seperate these yellow species when you have them in front of you.
Ian Young, Aberdeen, North Eastern Scotland. |
John Forrest (Jof)
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Wonderful pictures as usual Lesley. If I were there and could sneek in to steal something(not that I would) it would be the Calochortus amabilis. I struggle with it and have never had more than 2 flowers.
I do hope that Paul is OK. I have been meanong to e-mail to check up on him cos I miss his humour on the forum. I will send him a message tomorrow.
John Forrest, Blackpool, North West England, UK |
Lesley Isabel Cox (Lcox)
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John I sometimes get one or two pods with maybe 2 or 3 seeds in each. If I do this (late) summer, I'll send them along. The bulbs themselves do well and flower like mad and are very slowly increasing vegetatively.
Thanks for the suggestions Ian. It's nothing at all like my other F. bithynica forms which are greenish, some with a pinky/purple edge to the petals and all are quite a bit taller. The little yellow is only about 8cms at most. Whatever it turns out to be, it's a cutie and is flowering so much later this year, usually in early October.
Lesley Cox, Lower South Island, New Zealand |
dave toole (T00lie)
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A few shots of plants flowering in the garden here today.
Zigadenus fremontii at 15cm in height is i presume the drawf form.
I love the clear clean look of Silene hookeri v. bolanderi.
An Iris i recently purchased as PCI lilac lullaby (does PCI stand for pacific coast iris??)
Finally after waiting many many years --Pulsatilla alpina ssp. apiifolia in bloom.Sown from Otago alpine garden group seed 8/98.A very nice pale yellow with almost a green tinge to it. 
Cheers Dave
Barrel chested Dave .Invercargill.Bottom of the South Island New Zealand .Zone 8. |
Charlotte Jacobson (Charlotte)
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Dave,
Your presumption about I.'Lilac Lullabye' is true. It is a Pacific Coast hybd. I grow the species type from that area but seeing your beauty would inspire anyone to grow hybd irises. Lucky you to have such plants available for purchase.
Charlotte Jacobson
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Lesley Isabel Cox (Lcox)
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Your PCI Dave, is almost certainly a seedling FROM `Lilac Lullaby,' given the source (ex GH ex SIGNA?) and given that named clones are really not grown here due to their being unhappy with division, much better grown from seed. Having said that, seedlings from the better PCIs, especially from Ghio in the States, are all good and worth growing on to see what's what.
Love the pulsatilla too, especially that greenish tinge, on a nice full-petalled flower.
Delighted today to see buds on Paedorota bonarota and Physoplexis comosa, the latter a first for me and the former only after many years without, and also a single bud on a young Clematis gentianoides.
Lesley Cox, Lower South Island, New Zealand |
Lesley Isabel Cox (Lcox)
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Delighted this morning to get an email from Paul in Canberra. Things haven't been too good but he seems bright and cheerful, hopefully back with us soon.
Everywhere I look there are more things coming into flower.
Ranunculus cortusaefolius
Calochortus amoenus
Delphinium nudicaule, the scarlet form pollinated by the yellow form but more permanent than either.
A few dianthus, this one Dianthus `La Bourbrille' a name which I thing is now spelt differently but can't remember how.
and the white form of it, `La Bourbrille' alba.
Dianthus alpinus, much deeper red than the pic suggests.
Gypsophila cerastioides
The delightful Geranium farreri
Two saponarias, a badly under-rated genus in my opinion. They are good generous, easy-going plants. This is a seedling from Saponaria caespitosa pollinated by S. ocymoides, a cushion shape with short stemmed flowers, better than on either parent.
Saponaria pumilio is a favourite of mine.
These two pathetic little plants are the only 2 to germinate from a batch of 30 odd seeds. I just hope they pollinate each other because if not, I guess I've lost Androsace bulleyana.
The lovely Primula flaccida is proving reasonably perennial, my patch of 7 now babout 5 years old. Reasonable seed set too.
Lesley Cox, Lower South Island, New Zealand |
Doreen Mear (Doreen)
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Helping out with seed packing when Ken and Margaret were organising the seed exchange, and being allocated some of the 'O's, I vividly remember there being enough Olearia seed from Dunedin Botanic Garden to stuff a pillow, though breathing normally meant half of it ended up on the dining room floor. Now I have a daisy bush of my own, Olearia phlogopappa, and I can imagine any lurking seed-packers groaning at the thought of my seed contribution.
The peonies are glorious at the moment. There must be something about the soil and the climate because they grow exceptionally well here, and there are several commercial peony farms locally which are a dream to visit at this time of year. There is a big export market for peonies, especially from the USA for Thanksgiving. My first picture is of the plant I bought as P. obovata alba but it's not very alba!
The coral peonies are stunning. Two years ago I bought two, one for me and one to give away as a present, but couldn't make my mind up which one I could part with, so kept them both!
In the bottom left corner, you might just be able to make out an ant. First thing in the morning the buds are often covered in droplets of some sticky sweet exudate (yes, in the interests of science, and reasoning it wasn't greenfly honeydew, I had a taste) and there's processions of ants marching up and down the stems collecting it.
To date I only have one tree peony, P. 'Evening Glow', in shades of beautiful antique apricot colours, ageing to yellow.
Just two more in this batch. The first is Asarina procumbens, which is a very well-behaved trailer with sticky leaves. The picture is the usual form but I also have the 'compact form' which is simply smaller in all its parts.
And lastly, a metre-wide cushion of Ptilotrichum spinosum roseum that's been flowering like this for upwards of two weeks, and seems totally wind- and weather-resistant. I seem to remember it was the Smethies who first recommended this plant - thanks, guys! - but what a mouthful. Much easier to call it Alyssum.
Doreen Mear, Wanaka (Middle of South Island) New Zealand |
Margaret Young (Myoung)
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Well, it has been a bright enough day here in Aberdeen but it is such a joy to see all these fresh flowers from you Southern folk. Keep it up, you're doing us a power of good as we trot towards winter. Lovely pictures, All!
M. Young, Aberdeen North East Scotland |
dave toole (T00lie)
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I recently travelled some 45 mins. up country to visit Hokonui Alpines , a brother /sister operation run by Pete and Lou Salmond.
I spent a couple of delightful hours discussing matters horticultural and taking photos.
Firstly a few natives.
Leptinella atrata luteola
Celmisia bellidioides
Ranunculus godleyanus
Lou is handy with a small paintbrush.This is her latest creation they have just released.It's a real beauty--Myosotis x hokonui.The colour is pinky lavender and is a NZ species cross
Some others that took my fancy.
Delphinium nudicaule v. luteum
My favourite alpine-Physoplexis comosa
Lewisia rediviva
Pete not only produces hypertufa troughs for sale,they are also planted up and used extensively around the garden.
Finally a couple of scree shots
Cheers Dave
Dave Toole .Invercargill.Bottom of the South Island New Zealand .Zone 8. |
Lesley Isabel Cox (Lcox)
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Very nice Dave. Time I went down the road again. I see my own small physoplexis has 3 bunches of buds now, a bit later than Louise's but in the open of course. And the first of two seedlings of Lewisia rediviva is pure white, a bonus as the other is showing pink. No day for pictures though, thick drizzle all day.
A very bright spot this morning however, the phone rang, I said "hello" and back came "hello, this is Thomas (Huber)."
Lesley Cox, Lower South Island, New Zealand |
Doreen Mear (Doreen)
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It's very tempting to grab the purse and head off down there, Dave! What's the parentage of the Myosotis cross, or is it a trade secret?! Whatever it is, it's a beauty.
I also wanted to ask if your Erythronium 'Porcelain' comes true from seed, as the two I bought from you each have a seedpod on?
Doreen Mear, Wanaka (Middle of South Island) New Zealand |
Louise Salmond (Louise)
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Hello Doreen and others. Myosotis x Hokonui's parentage is species from the Subantartic Islands x Waimakariri Basin x Northern Southland and maybe some others. How's that for a riddle? It took two or three years of hybridising and I'm not certain now. The plants have been out in the garden over several seasons and are flowering well all round the cushions. And the rabbits haven't eaten them! I'm grateful to Dave for posting these photos. I don't think the rest of you would be impressed with my prints after I've scanned and compressed them.
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dave toole (T00lie)
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Lesley--What--Thomas has rung you and not me--whats going on ?!!!!!.
Doreen -Trade secret !!!--I'm not sure --Suggest direct your comment to Hokonui .
I'm also not certain about the Erythronium .Will speak to the person who raised the plants and get back to you.
Cheers Dave.
Dave Toole .Invercargill.Bottom of the South Island New Zealand .Zone 8. |
John Forrest (Jof)
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Great pics Dave. It's particularly interesting to see nurseries that we have no chance of seeing. When I saw The Myosotis loading up I thought it was an Androsace. It would look good on the showbench, so just sneek round there in the dead of night and dig it up for me. Don't forget to send it by private jet mail so that it arrives in good condition.
Louise
Well done for raising such a stunner. It's a good job you don't have to write the parentage on the label, it would need one about a metre long. I was going to say about the likelyhood of that kind of a mixed gene pool in nature but when you consider your own it's not so much. I've got Scottish, Welsh, French etc etc in mine but I guess the difference is that none of mine was planned but I guess the gene mixing was more fun!!!
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Thomas Huber (Hubi1)
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Dave, gimme your number and expect the worst!!!!
Thomas Huber, Neustadt/Hessen, Germany |
Doreen Mear (Doreen)
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I took a drive out to Gladstone beach yesterday, on Lake Hawea, a hydroelectric lake about 15 minutes' drive from Wanaka. There's always people on the beach filling up their trailers with stones for their rockery, but although the stony shoreline looks much too barren to support any plantlife, there's a glorious ribbon of colour along the beach. Not to mention quite a nice view!
Doreen Mear, Wanaka (Middle of South Island) New Zealand |
Doreen Mear (Doreen)
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So many photogenic plants in the garden, it's hard to choose a handful to post. Under the shade of a tree, and where it gets the run-off from next door's irrigation, the ground-hugging Rhododendron keleticum seems to have settled in happily.
In a raised bed in full sun and good deep soil, Penstemon hirsutus is forming a substantial cushion.
In the same raised bed, I planted out a few Meconopsis horridula, but, hedging my bets, put a couple in my little scree as well. The ones in the scree are looking pretty sorry for themselves but the raised bed occupants are thriving. Or they were until a torrential downpour last night.
On the other hand, when I acquired two Campanula nitida, I put the blue one, C. n. 'Clifton Blue', in the raised bed, and the white one, C. n. alba in the scree. The scree plant seems to be on a winning streak. I do like these campanulas, they are very neat plants with huge flowers.
Early in the spring I also planted out in the scree an Oxalis 'Ione Hecker' that's been occupying a pot for a couple of years, and it's also looking pretty contented. The reason for all this planting out - my plant-sitter has threatened to count how many pots I have!
In the herbaceous border, a lovely white peony, 'Lois Kelsey', with very unusual jagged petals.
And lastly for tonight, when I was checking on some newly planted out campanulas last week in the raised bed, I noticed I'd planted them on top of three little lily-like noses that were just poking through. No idea what they are, lost label of course, and nothing in the memory banks. The flower stem is only about 4 or 5 inches high; the flower is white, ageing to pink, with dark brown anthers. Any suggestions gratefully received.
Doreen Mear, Wanaka (Middle of South Island) New Zealand |
Lesley Isabel Cox (Lcox)
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Could it be a white form of Lilium mackliniae Doreen? Whatever, it's beautiful as are all your pictures. I'll bet DOC would hate those top ones but I think the lupin on the beachy part is wonderful. Thanks for them all.
Lesley Cox, Lower South Island, New Zealand |
Doreen Mear (Doreen)
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Thanks, Lesley. Must admit, it's probably not P.C., but I also like to see some colourful weeds as a change from white ones! But it saddens me rather to see people carting away the beach in trailerloads - not that I couldn't do with some more rockery stone myself, only they might deport me! But I just think what happened to the UK's limestone pavements, everyone thinking, oh, there's so much of it, the little bit I'm taking for my garden won't matter. Only it did.
For the little lily, I had one suggestion of L. oxypetalum insigne but I've no record of having had any seed of that, but I do have records of sowing two batches of Lilium mackliniae, of which I've only seen one in the garden. This could be the other, thanks for the suggestion. Maybe it will be more easily identified when it grows up a bit, this being its first flowering.
Doreen Mear, Wanaka (Middle of South Island) New Zealand |
Lesley Isabel Cox (Lcox)
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I'm pretty sure all forms of L. oxypetalum would be either lemony or have at least some pink in them and I've never seen it with flaring petals like that. Having said that, someone's bound to contradict me. That's OK. Mine is starting so I'll get a picture at some time today. Thoroughly occupied by market stuff at present though.}
Lesley Cox, Lower South Island, New Zealand |
Lesley Isabel Cox (Lcox)
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What a cheek! How dare he? Just because I made one teensy wee comment about the aesthetic quality of his untreated polystyrene trough at last night's meeting, he threatened to have me ejected! I'll get you for that Davie lad.
Lesley Cox, Lower South Island, New Zealand |
Göte K. A. Svanholm (Gote)
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I agree with Lesley. Maclinae has more flaring flowers and is variable in the colour range. I have not grown too many of these so I do not have a picture of the light coloured form of maclinae. This is a new darker form that is just being introduced. For comparision the oxypetalum insigne has less flaring flower and smaller number of leaves.
A beautiful form if you get more seed than you need I would be happy to try it.  |
Lesley Isabel Cox (Lcox)
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These are quite beautiful Gote. Thankyou.
Lesley Cox, Lower South Island, New Zealand |
Margaret Young (Myoung)
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Gote, this dark form is exquisite! Small and perfectly formed. We are a bit puzzled about Doreen's little white lily, we're thinking about it!!
Lesley: if Toolie is using non-sculpted, non-painted polystyrene boxes, then HE is the one who risks ejection!! No self-respecting SRGC person should have naked fish boxes! Minor exceptions can be made for anyone growing industrial quantities in fish boxes, but for any small scale grower, this is a complete no-no!!Naked fish boxes should only be taken to a Meeting if they are to be used in a demonstration of how to make 'em into proper SRGC troughs!!
M. Young, Aberdeen North East Scotland |
Göte K. A. Svanholm (Gote)
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I wish it were mine! Perhaps I should have pointed out that the maclinae picture is taken in Ian Christie's nursery.
What is puzzling? The literature (lilies of the world) says maclinae is white (with pink flush)
Note from Ian Young: If I only saw the flower, I would say it is Lilium mackliniae but the foliage looks a bit different: it may be that it is as a result of being so short that the stem arrangement looks odd.
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Gote
I believe that this dark form of Maclinae may have been a Cox introduction. No doubt Ian Christie can clear this up. Lets hope it comes true form seed.
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Doreen Mear (Doreen)
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Gote: The deep pink form of mackliniae is beautiful, thanks for showing us your photo. My plant fits the bill when you mention white with pink flush, as it developed quite a marked pink flush on the outside as it aged. The seed came originally from the NZAGS, another antipodean oddity for you!
Doreen Mear, Wanaka (Middle of South Island) New Zealand |
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, November 18, 2005 - 11:35 pm: | |
Margaret--Make mine a minor exception!!.The 'naked'fish box was indeed used as part of my demonstration .As befitting a SRGC member i don't think i let the side down as i also had a completed example which envoked a remark " it looks like a stone trough"
For your information only(he he!!) my threat to have Lesley evicted nearly worked as she was close to being the perfect host.I say nearly --because dispite her best behaviour,i detected numerous yawning episodes(lol).Surely i wasn't that bad-or was i?.
In any case enjoyed my visit ,friendly company,super yummy food .
The following morning i was taken on a side trip the Otago Peninsula .Hope to post a few shots of this trip soon.
Cheers Dave
Dave Toole .Invercargill.Bottom of the South Island New Zealand .Zone 8. |
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, November 19, 2005 - 2:47 am: | |
Ah yes Dave, but your demo was about placing stones and planting, not preparing the box itself. But your nice comments will allow me to forgive you. There were no yawns from me though, and I didn't notice any from the others present. We also had with us a very pleasant gentleman from Norway, an alpine grower on sabbatical from a Norwegian university, studying eco-tourism I think. I didn't catch his name but Dave has it and should maybe mention it here as perhaps some of our Norwegian posters will know him. He lives near Tromso I think.
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A few things out at present below. I am (or rather, my garden is) suffering from the activities of a dog (Kaan), an English Springer Spaniel aged 5 years, whom we've inherited from a family which is in the process of splitting. He's a lovely dog, friendly nature, very obedient and also playful, but LARGE with huge feet and he has already eaten most of my chocolate cosmos, knocked down a good patch of black poppies and broken off Verbascum `Letitia.'
Steps will have to be taken!
Lilium oxypetalum not sure whether v.insigne or not. Taken from underneath so not the best and the petals seem to flare more than they really do.
Rhodohypoxis `Knockdolian Red' is an excellent plant, better coloured than portrayed here. Why can't I photograph reds well?
Saponaria x Olivana is a favourite for me along with all the genus. They are not grown so much as they should be.
These two are Saponaria `Gala Day,' my own seedling from S. x Olivana x S. ocymoides. It is compact, has lovely deep red calyces and flowers three times in a year if trimmed after each. The colour is between the two parents, a pretty, soft but clear pink.
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And some whites as well. The first I'd like an opinion on please. I've grown it for years as Saxifraga cotyledon v. caterhamensis but I'm not sure this is right. It grows to a large patch and the stems are around 40cms high or more. The flowers are lightly spotted in a reddish shade.
Linum something salsioides nanum which for some reason I find very difficult to propagate successfully. No seed and the cuttings root but then flower and the whole things sort of elongates and then withers. It's difficult to get cutting material that isn't about to flower in a short time.
A rather battered Oxalis enneaphylla alba
Lewisia rediviva alba is a bonus because the seed didn't mention white forms.
I have several small patches of Weldenia candida at present, having divided my large plant. These two are in a raised bed and a pot, but outside in the weather, whatever it is. I find they get a bit drawn if kept under cover.
Lesley Cox, Lower South Island, New Zealand |
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That's a bit of all-white Lesley (unlike the matches being played today between men with odd shaped balls - Northern Hemisphere took a battering from the Southern. BTW is Samoa North or South Island?)
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Lesley,
This I think could be one of the Saxifraga hostii hybrids. Looks at the leaves of the pictures. S.hostii is a native of the South Alps of Europe.
Saxifraga hostii
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Lesley, how much winter cold do your weldenias get/take outdoors? Mine gets very drawn and straggly under cover and I've often thought of trying it outside in a sunny sheltered spot.
Martin Baxendale, Gloucestershire, UK |
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Thanks Franz. I'll do a bit more research. Lots of saxifrages are in New Zealand under wrong names, especially the Porophyllum kinds. Very frustrating never seeing the genuine plants in the flesh, so to speak.
Martin, I have to tell you that we (I) have a pretty mild winter generally, rarely less that -3 or 4C. The one winter when we went down to -12, the weldenia was, if I remember rightly, in a tunnel house, though this may not be correct.
I think it would be worth a try outside if you were to cover it after it dies down in autumn, with a good thickness of bracken, pine duff or a similar material. I'm a great believer in pea straw myself, the spent vines after commercial peas are harvested. Good gardeners here buy it by the bale, either the usual hay bale size which are easy to handle or the very large round or cubic kinds which are equal to about 10 of the smaller. It's jolly good stuff, a wonderful soil conditioner and rots down within a shortish time to a lovely crumbly fruit cake texture.
Now I think about it, over the last 12 years I've sold heaps of weldenias all over NZ and some to really cold parts (Central Otago and central North Island) and no-one's ever said they've lost it. John Lonsdale in Pennsylvania thinks it could well be hardier in the UK than the Brits realise.
Anthony I was a bit worried about that game for a while, England offering a greater challenge than Wales and Ireland. As to Samoa, I know you know everything about bugs and butterflies that I don't (i.e. everything) but your geography isn't too hot. Samoa is in the Pacific Ocean due east of Cairns in Queensland, Australia, about 15deg south latitude and about 10deg longitude east of the international dateline (so about 170deg). For political reasons which I'm at a loss to understand or explain, the native peoples of Samoa (Western, not American) along with Tonga, the Cook Islands, Tokolau, Niue and some others (not Fijians) have citizenship rights in New Zealand, the result being that the largest populations of those islands live and work in NZ rather than in their own countries, depleting those economies badly and while we benefit from their undoubted rugby skills, the islands themselves miss out badly in many respects. Many more Samoans, Tongans etc etc live in Auckland than live in Samoa or Tonga.
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