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Mark Smyth (Mark__n_ireland)
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s'pose I better ease myself back into the swing of things by creating a new folder.
Colchicum tesselated hybrid ex I. Young
flowering today along with C. tenori and the small form of ? bought at the discussion weekend last year. Maggi you bought 'em too. More Colchicums later this week.
Mark, Antrim. Northern Ireland. z8+ |
Lesley Isabel Cox (Lcox)
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This is a lovely one Mark. Very pleased to see you back.
Lesley Cox, Lower South Island, New Zealand |
Anthony Darby (Adarby)
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I'll second that on both counts Lesley. That flower looks like it would float away if you cut it!
Anthony Darby, Dunblane, Perthshire. |
Anne Wright (Annsie)
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It wisnae me! I didn't plant this little colchicum, it came up in a pot of narcissus seedlings from an exchange. Can someone identify it for me?
Here it is next to Cyclamen hederifolium Ruby Glow for scale.
Anne, North Yorkshire, England |
John Forrest (Jof)
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Anne
What a nice surprise but I'm not the one to ask about Colchicums but I do know that my C. aggripinum seems rather early this year. These are the first 2 up out of a clump of about 30 all from a single bulb in about 10 years.I like this sp. because the leaves are small enough not to be a nuisance after flowering.
John Forrest, Blackpool, North West England, UK |
Mark Smyth (Mark__n_ireland)
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Anne it's possibly C atticum
Mark, Antrim. Northern Ireland. z8+ |
Franz Hadacek (Fhadacek)
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John
I like Colchicum aggripinum because it grows well in my weadow and one can it easily recognizes. I like to see your great pics.
Franz Hadacek, Vienna, Austria |
Lesley Isabel Cox (Lcox)
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John, is that an elderly plant of Helichrysum milforidiae at the colchicum's feet? But just nip out and remove that little oxalis lurking there.
Lesley Cox, Lower South Island, New Zealand |
John Forrest (Jof)
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By gum lass has tha bin eating carrots? There's nowt wrong with your eyes. It is indeed Helichrysum milfordiae which has seen better days, some day I will resurrect it by cutting or transplant. The Oxalis is O. squamata and it pays its dues with little red flowers, so I'll just leave it be.
Some call this Colchicum pyrenaicum but it was Merendera when I collected seed in the Pyrenees 25 or more years ago. As can be seen it does vary but I have never selected out the better forms.
I don't know what has upset this one perhaps it's just a bad hair day.
John Forrest, Blackpool, North West England, UK |
Franz Hadacek (Fhadacek)
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John, Great pictures and great plants.
Merendera montana (L) Lange = M. bulbocodium Ram. = M. pyrenaica auct.
Many names!!!
A native of Pyrenees, Spain, and Portugal. It grows on stony hillside and in dry turf.
Merendera, with perianth segments not forming a tube.
Colchicum, with the perianth segments joined into a long perianth tube
 
Franz Hadacek, Vienna, Austria |
John Forrest (Jof)
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Franz
Lovely pictures to perfectly illustrate the point. Thank you.
John Forrest, Blackpool, North West England, UK |
Paul Tyerman (Tyerman)
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John,
Those dark, almost reddish, Merendera are quite interesting. Somewhat darker than I had realised Merendera came in, but I don't actually have any experience with that species. Given how picky Colchicum are from seed I had always assumed that the Merenderas were difficult to germinate, but obviously yours did OK. Did you get a good germination rate? Given you have different clones do they actually produce seed? So many of the family seldom set seed as we generally tend to only have a single clone in our collections and some are definitely shy to self-pollinate (except Colchicum kessleringii which doesn't seem to have any qualms about it, even if only a single bulb! LOL) within their own clone.
Well done for having germinated them and it is wonderful that you ended up with differing forms in the seedlings. Must have been a nice surprise when they started flowering, particularly those broad petalled ones which stand out so well.
Paul T. Canberra, Australia. |
John Forrest (Jof)
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Paul
Do you know I haven't a clue if they produce seed. Bulbs like this often don't show the seed pod, but I have never noticed signs of any, nor any tiny babies, just divisions. There are various things I grow which never produce seed. I will certainly have a look later on because I did see bees visiting whilst I was photographing.
John Forrest, Blackpool, North West England, UK |
John Forrest (Jof)
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There are lots of repeat flowerings of earlier things after the heavy and welcome downpours to our parched plots. Some things just seem to carry on flowering for months like
Hypoxis parvula x rhodohypoxis baurii
Not strictly flowering but the seed heads of Allium christophii are still decorative.
Yet another reminder that summer is passing as all the things with specific epithets autumnale begin to flower.
Scilla autumnale
John Forrest, Blackpool, North West England, UK |
Lesley Isabel Cox (Lcox)
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John, why I mentioned the Helichrysum is because I assume your Colchicum is in a warm, sunny place and in my experience, the Helichrysum prefers cool, moist soil. It doesn't LOOK as if it would but its natural home is among almost permanent mist and cloud. I never had a better plant than years ago when it lived in someone else's nursery (my little number was housed inside his big version) and every day it was drenched with mist and light rain as he watered his young rhododendrons. I've never had it so good since then.
Lesley Cox, Lower South Island, New Zealand |
Franz Hadacek (Fhadacek)
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The first Crocus (Crocus speciosus ssp. ilgazensis) flowers in my garden together with Colchicum bivonae syn. C. bowlesianum. Both are beautiful species and are native of Mediterranean Area.
Crocus speciosus ssp. ilgazensis
Colchicum bivonae
Franz Hadacek, Vienna, Austria |
John Forrest (Jof)
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Talk about losing the thread! I thought I was on the August one not the Colchicum one when I posted mine and it was only 9.10pm.
Lesley
You are right about the Helichrysum. I have one in a shadier part of the garden where it is healthy looking but it flowers better with more light. It's difficult to get the balance right.
John Forrest, Blackpool, North West England, UK |
Lesley Isabel Cox (Lcox)
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I suppose, in effect, the bad hair Colchicum is a double or at least semi-double.
Lesley Cox, Lower South Island, New Zealand |
Thomas Huber (Hubi1)
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Franz, your speciosus shows a much devided, long style, while in ssp ilgazensis it is six branched and much shorter than the anthers,
so I think yours is ssp speciosus
Thomas Huber, Neustadt/Hessen, Germany |
Andrew Ward (Andrew)
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Just one colchicum flowering for me at the moment.
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Colchicum corsicum side view <src=" ">
And a few minutes later when it opened.
Fingers crossed, if you click on the images you can see the originals, these are 1Mbytes images.
Could you let me know if it works for you.
Thank you.
Andrew, North Cambridgeshire, England. |
Franz Hadacek (Fhadacek)
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Thomas,
Thanks, I know the description, but I collected the corms at the Ilgaz Dag Pass. Enclosed a picture from the wild.
C. speciosus flowers in my garden always one month later.
Crocus speciosus ssp. ilgazenis at Ilgaz Dag Pass
Franz Hadacek, Vienna, Austria |
Franz Hadacek (Fhadacek)
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Andrew,
The 1Mbytes images works perfect. Beautiful shots.
Franz Hadacek, Vienna, Austria |
Jim Fisher (Garrideb)
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Andrew: Your clickable 1 MB images also worked
for me, much to my surprise. How did you manage
that ?
Jim Fisher, Washington D.C., USA, Z7 |
Howard Clase (Hclase)
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In Newfoundland everything is later! I'm just lifting my Colchicum corms for re-planting. They won't flower until late September or October. I've only got the ordinary nursery trade species though, nothing exciting. I do have aggripinum, from Broadleigh I think, years ago. No-one seems to sell that in North America that I've seen. It's the only rock garden taxon that I've come across that's hardy outside and increases wonderfully well - why is it so expensive?
Howard Clase, St John's, Newfoundland. (Where it's 3.5 hours earlier than the time given above!) |
Mark Smyth (Mark__n_ireland)
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no reason Howard other than taking advantage of willing customers. At work we have speciosum 'Album' for $3 which is expensive when you think how fast a colony can grow. I got cheap bulbs this week. Not wanting to rub salt in the wound C. cupani cost me £4/$6 for 6. C. parnassicum was £2/$3 for 5 and C. baytopiorum was £2/$3 for 5. I also got 12 Crocus vernus for £1/$1.50. These were obtained from a specialist bulb sale and were growers surplus bulbs. It is a fantastic sale and well worth attending if you are close enough. Next year in is in Essex very close to Stansted airport.
Mark, Antrim. Northern Ireland. z8+ |
Paul Tyerman (Tyerman)
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Mark..... enjoy the prices..... speciosum album is rare as hens teeth here..... managed to buy one this year for $15 which is the first time I can recall ever seeing it for sale.
Paul T. Canberra, Australia. |
Thomas Huber (Hubi1)
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Franz, ssp speciosus is very widespread in Turkey, I think that it also occurs on Ilgaz Dag, where you took the photo?
Tony, can you help us!!!?
Thomas Huber, Neustadt/Hessen, Germany |
Andrew Ward (Andrew)
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Jim,
How well do you know HTML code ? I just put the "a href" start and end tags round the uploaded image pointer, with the http address linking to the picture on my web space.
I have problems unloading sometimes to the server, but that's different problem, but it did mean only one picture in the crocus thread works at the moment.
Does that make sense or is that double Dutch ( no offence intended for Dutch readers ) ?
Andrew, North Cambridgeshire, England. |
Tony Goode (Agoode)
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I think that Thomas is rght about C. speciosus ssp ilgazensis. I have (or had) the plant illustrated below collected on Ilgaz Dag. This does fit the description of C. speciosus ssp ilgazensis being smaller than C. speciosus ssp speciosus and having a shorter less branched style which is shorter than the anthers.
It is likely that both subspcies grow on Ilgaz Dag.
The distribution of Crocuses is still relatively poorly known. New species or subspecies are going to be discovered as access to remote places improves. Indeed a new form of C. flavus was found was found last year, disjunct from the known area of distribution and having dark bronze outer petals ('Normal' C flavus is pure yellow, unmarked.) It may be described as a new subspecies in due course.
Tony Goode. Norwich UK. Mintemp -8C |
Jim Fisher (Garrideb)
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Andrew:
Volkommen begrijpelijk nr :-) .
I do know a bit of HTML, having set up a perfunctory
website myself. Following your lead, I managed to
send HTML mail to myself referencing a suitable .jpg
file out on the net. Thanks for the instructions.
Jim Fisher, Washington D.C., USA, Z7 |
Franz Hadacek (Fhadacek)
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It is possible, that both subspecies of C. speciosus grow on Ilgaz Dag.
But why my Crocus flowers 6 week in former times and is smaller around half than C. speciosus ssp. speciosus.
Are the shorter style and longer anthers the only characteristic?
Franz Hadacek, Vienna, Austria |
John Forrest (Jof)
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I have already posted a picture of Colchicum aggripinum but couldn't resist taking this other clump in the sunshine today. Can you see the interloper?
John Forrest, Blackpool, North West England, UK |
Margaret Young (Myoung)
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That's a lovely clump, John. C. aggripinum is so pretty. Is that a perfectly colour-matched Geranium lurking at about 1 o'clock?
We love these little geraniums and have the driveway full of assorted ones.
M. Young, Aberdeen North East Scotland |
Lesley Isabel Cox (Lcox)
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Is it G. `Ballerina?'
Lesley Cox, Lower South Island, New Zealand |
Thomas Huber (Hubi1)
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Franz, style and anthers are the most important characteristics of ssp ilgazensis.
In my garden I have ssp speciosus flowering from August (not this year) until December in every height between 10 and 18 cm.
John, a beautiful picture of Colchicum aggripinum. I have two of your bulbs flowering in my garden showing 7 petals and 7 anthers.
Thomas Huber, Neustadt/Hessen, Germany |
Tony Goode (Agoode)
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Franz, the only other feature that Brian Mathew notes is that the corm tunic of ssp ilgazensis is membraneous splitting into parallel fibres with no basal rings. Ssp speciosus has a harder tunic which does split into basal rings but not parallel fibres. The trouble with relatively little known taxa is that we do not always know how variable they are, it could be that there are many intermediate forms between the two named subspecies found on Ilgaz Dag in which case perhaps only one name is needed. I have some seedlings from seed collected there, it will be interesting to see what forms I get .... but we will have to wait a year or two:-)
Tony Goode. Norwich UK. Mintemp -8C |
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Well spotted Maggi and right again Lesley for the ID.
John Forrest, Blackpool, North West England, UK |
Mark Smyth (Mark__n_ireland)
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I think I see a Ballerina
Mark, Antrim. Northern Ireland. z8+ |
Franz Hadacek (Fhadacek)
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Tony,
Thanks, for the extensive information. I think also that it is a relatively little known taxa and we do not know how variable they are. I photographed new blooms in the last days.
C. speciosus ssp. ilgazensis
C. speciosus ssp. ilgazensis
C. speciosus ssp. ilgazensis
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Franz Hadacek (Fhadacek)
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Colour variation of Colchicum bivonae Guss. (syn. bowlesianum Burtt., C. latifolium Sibth.)
A variable species from NW. Turkey, Aegean Islands, Balkans, S. Italy, Corsica and Sardinia
Colchicum bivonae.
Franz Hadacek, Vienna, Austria |
Mark Smyth (Mark__n_ireland)
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very nice Franz
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John Forrest (Jof)
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Beautiful C. bivonae, it's hard to pick a favourite.
Here is my humble offering
Colchicum speciosum album
I saw an interesting packet in Wyevale Garden Centre with a picture of what they said was C. autumnale album.
This is what came up
John Forrest, Blackpool, North West England, UK |
Anthony Darby (Adarby)
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The photos on bulb packets always deceive. One glaring example is the dried Cyclamen cilicium tubers with the doctored photo of a uniformly dark pink hederifolium on the front of the packet. The flowers are the wrong shape as well as the wrong colour. Needless to say, they are cilicium tubers as I have some flowering now from a packet bought a number of years ago. The photo hasn't changed as I saw some for sale last month. Prefer what you got to the doubles in the photo John.
Anthony Darby, Dunblane, Perthshire. |
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I'm hoping to find Colchicums for sale at the Czech autumn show later this week
Mark, Antrim. Northern Ireland. z8+ |
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Lovely things Franz, as usual. John, you must agree with Anthony re the white Colchicum. Every year I come close to heaving my doubles, especially `Waterlily' which I think is disgusting. Every year I resist but soon I'll have enough to make a killing when I sell the lot to all the misguided folk who think they're lovely. (Like the elderly lady in whose garden there sits a bright green plaster rabbit. "It looks so narrrtural" she says. But then, she started life in Yorkshire.)
Lesley Cox, Lower South Island, New Zealand |
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God NO! I didn't mean Doreen.
Lesley Cox, Lower South Island, New Zealand |
Anthony Darby (Adarby)
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Eeeee. What's this? Is tha casting nasturtiums at Yorkshire folk Lesley? You'll be lucky to get much brass out o' her for your reject colchicums if she's still got any Yorkshire blood flowing round her body, but then all the world's queer, except thee and me..... and even thee?!
Anthony Darby, Dunblane, Perthshire. |
Anne Wright (Annsie)
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By your quotation from the lady in question, she may have started life in Yorkshire but she's been corrupted by a spell in the south west. We're a bit more economical with our vowels!
Anne, North Yorkshire, England |
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Causing trubble at t'mill, Lesley! Thi'll git a raight good seeing-to iffen Ah catch up wi' Thi lakin' in t' bluebell woods!
Green plaster rabbits? I've got real brown furry ones that look ever so narrrtural (and cost me nowt). Waterlily colchicums? Wouldn't take them off your hands for nowt now, not even as a peace offering (specially as I've a big clump of white ones that came with the house). But ELDERLY? I should be so lucky: two dollars off at the pictures and a half-price ski pass, can't wait!
Doreen Mear, Wanaka (Middle of South Island) New Zealand |
John Forrest (Jof)
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I quite like the odd double and some flowers.
John Forrest, Blackpool, North West England, UK |
Lesley Isabel Cox (Lcox)
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A gentlemanly and civilized (if misguided) comment John. In future I'll keep my (also misguided) attempts at a Yorkshire accent, strictly for those who've never been there. My grandmother used to say "They're all queer except thee and me and I'm not too sure about thee."
Lesley Cox, Lower South Island, New Zealand |
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I wish I'd said that Lesley. I wonder if they still say "put your coat on mother, it's time for the pub!" "are you taking me dear?" "no, but I'm turnin' the heatin' off!"
Here's some colchicums: C. corsicum from SRGC seed.
C. atticum just opening.
Anthony Darby, Dunblane, Perthshire. |
Franz Hadacek (Fhadacek)
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Dwarf and Giant of the Colchicum
C. speciosum is the greatest one in the pictures!
Colchicum
C. speciosum and C,agrippinum
C. speciosum
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How attractive they look, grown like this, Franz. The green sets them off so well and keeps the flowers clean.
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They do look really great grown in this grassy mix. I might try that except that my grass tends to be at least knee high. But Bless 'em all.
Anthony, I'm sending you a delightful picture that our friend-in-common, Susan sent to me a couple of days ago. I'd post it here but am not sure how to forward a pic from another email. The good thing about it is, it's now Friday.
Lesley Cox, Lower South Island, New Zealand |
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Still Thursday here (and so am I as I didn't go to the pub after choir practice) Lesley and thanks for the pic. I see the wean Rooney excelled himself lastnight in Manu's Champions League football reinforcing my views on (some) footballers.
Anthony Darby, Dunblane, Perthshire. |
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Looking good in the sun:
Colchicum bycantinum Album
Colchicum speciosum, collected in the Caucasus
Thomas Huber, Neustadt/Hessen, Germany |
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Just noticed today that one of my Colchicum speciosum has 18 flowers. Just a pity light levels are too poor before and after work for a photo but I am off on Tuesday!
Mark, Antrim. Northern Ireland. z8+ |
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My Colchicums are a bit late, perhaps potted later. Look away if you don't like doubles but like an old Jewish friend of mine would say "what's not to like?" C. Waterlily
OK you can look now!
C. cupanii
Can anybody ID this one. It has just reappeared after being overgrown by a large Viburnum(which has now had its skirt lifted) and I haven't seen a flower on it for at least 5 years. I seem to remember C.bornmuelleri being in the garden at one time but am not sure if this is it.
John Forrest, Blackpool, North West England, UK |
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John,
I think it is C. bornmuelleri or perhaps C. speciosum. C. bornmuelleri is very similar in general appearance to C. speciosum, but has purplish, not yellow anthers. Both species grow in Turkey.
Fantastic crocus shots. I think that Thomas is right about your Crocus.
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Here's two more pics of corsicum
and cupanii.
Anthony Darby, Dunblane, Perthshire. |
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This is my Colchicum variegatum. The last to open and not ruined by the heavy rain.
cupani with a wasp mimic
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Colchicum still flourish.
Colchicum Waterlily
C.agrippinum.jpg
C. cupani- a self seedling in my bulb meadow
Mark, GOOD PICS
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thanks Frank
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I was sent some Australian seed of Colchicum variegatum at the beginning of 2003. It was fresh and all the other things, frits mostly, which came with it, came up like hairs on a dog's back. Still no Colchicum. I won't throw it out but is it still reasonable to hope that it WILL germinate some time?
Lesley Cox, Lower South Island, New Zealand |
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Mark
What camera and lens did you take the super shot of the C.cupanii and Wasp imposter?
Franz
Your pictures are always good what do you use?
John Forrest, Blackpool, North West England, UK |
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John it's a Nikon Coolpix 5000 using the lens it came with. You dont know how many didnt come out! The ?Hoverfly was very obliging just sitting there filling it's belly with pollen
Mark, Antrim. Northern Ireland. z8+ |
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I suspect the hoverfly would be supping liquid refreshment such as nectar Mark. Cool pic though.
Anthony Darby, Dunblane, Perthshire. |
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it was nibbling on the anthers
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Lesley - don't give up on your Colchicum seed yet. I've had these germinate after 3 or 4 years.
Tony Goode. Norwich UK. Mintemp -8C |
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These dipterans can't nibble as they don't have mandibles. They have mouth parts designed for sucking up liquids. If you look at the top photo you will see the insect equivalent of the business end of a vacuum cleaner.
Anthony Darby, Dunblane, Perthshire. |
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Mark, great pictures !!! Stefanie / Switzerland |
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John it's a Nikon D 100Digital with a Macro Objective
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Thanks Stefanie.
Anthony It was definitely having a go at the anthers. Maybe they 'vomit' like a house fly does
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That could be the anther Mark?
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I like your 'style' Anthony
John Forrest, Blackpool, North West England, UK |
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Franz
what macro lens do you use?
Ian McEnery Sutton Coldfield, West Midlands |
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very good you two.
Here is one flowering in a trough but with no label. It's only 2".5cm high and very pale pink. Anyone know which it is?
Mark, Antrim. Northern Ireland. z8+ |
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Ian,
It is Nikon AF NIKKOR 24-85mm 1:2,8-4 D
I hope it help you
Franz Hadacek, Vienna, Austria |
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Franz
Thanks. I have a D70 with 17/85mm but the maximum is only 1:4 or worse reproduction whereas I think yours is 1:2. So I shall have to save up my pennies for something so that I can go a little closer without playing with the image later
Ian McEnery Sutton Coldfield, West Midlands |
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Having earlier refered to Colchicum corsicum as best under glass, here is one which has been outside in my sand bed for the last year.
It is in a sheltered spot and probably needs the excellent drainage it gets here.
Colchicum boissieri continues to creep around nearby. It has curious claw like corms which have new growing shoots at the tip of its 'fingers'. As a new corm develops each year it gradually moves away from the place it started.
Tony Goode. Norwich UK. Mintemp -8C |
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A couple of days ago we had some bright sunshine and so out came the camera. I took a few pics and then, of course, the sun went in. I continued to take photos of the same subjects and was quite surprised at the difference between those in sun and shade.I wanted to record the differences between the Colchicum cupanii I had and the C.cupanii Crete Form, recently obtained from Tony G.
Colchicum cupanii in sun
Colchicum cupanii shade
Colchicum cupanii Crete Form in sun
Colchicum cupanii in shade
In truth the colour detected by my eye was somewhere in between on both plants.
John Forrest, Blackpool, North West England, UK |
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I forgot to say that the the first picture was taken on a different day from the second but 3 & 4 were within 30 minutes of each other.
John Forrest, Blackpool, North West England, UK |
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Those are excellent forms John. Should you have any offsets available in the future I would be interested.
Anthony Darby, Dunblane, Perthshire. |
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David Shaw has a single Colchicum cupani Crete form flowering with no sign of leaves. I think flowering with and without leaves has been discussed before
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has anyone got any idea which Colcicum I posted on the 4th?
This is Colchicum boissieri that I got in Prague
Mark, Antrim. Northern Ireland. z8+ |
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Anthony
Just seen your posting. The Crete Form was from Tony Goode and so he will be a better chance because mine is just a single newly acqiured. The normal one I will certainly see how it reproduces and have put a label in the pot to remind me at repotting time.
John Forrest, Blackpool, North West England, UK |
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Thanks John. I just love those 'pin stripes'.
Anthony Darby, Dunblane, Perthshire. |
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Colchicum neapolitianum ssp micranthum which is very like boissieri above.
Mark, Antrim. Northern Ireland. z8+
the autumn 'drops are out and the earlies will be showing late November |
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This was bought very late at the discussion weekend and planted even later
Colchicum autumnale 'Album'
Mark, Antrim. Northern Ireland. z8+
the autumn 'drops are out and the earlies will be showing late November |
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