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Carol Shaw (Carol)
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Nope no pixs to post just wanted the new thread to start
Carol Shaw, Forres, Scotland |
Margaret Young (Myoung)
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Thanks, Carol, I just came to open a page to get things going and you'd just done that very thing. Excellent! Now all we need is someone with some flowers to show!! |
Göte K. A. Svanholm (Gote)
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In volunteer !!
First one is a mystery, can anyone tell me what this is:
The next one is Lilium superbum. It grows wonderfully well in my woodland and is a real beauty at a time when not much is in flower there. Unfortunately the lilybeetles also find it a favourite.
Both picks from August first.
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Thomas Huber (Hubi1)
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Hi Göte!
Same problem with the lilybeetles here in Germany. Does anybody have an idea what will help against them?
I picked them by hand so far! About 200 this year plus 200 larvas!!!
Thomas Huber, Neustadt/Hessen, Germany |
Göte K. A. Svanholm (Gote)
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Unfortunately I have no better way myself. I try to place my more precious lilies, Nomocharis and Fritillaria in locations where picking is easy. I think I have picked a hundred beetles thus far and many more larvae. The beetles are fortunately quite unabashed so i could get a fair number of them in pairs. |
Ian McEnery (Ianmcenery)
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Gote
I think your mystery plant is a Solanum of some kind (potato family). I hope this helps
Ian McEnery Sutton Coldfield, West Midlands |
John Forrest (Jof)
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Maggi I think you have been a bit tardy letting August nearly slip by without making a new thread.
Thanks for trying to ID my Oenothera, I will keep looking.I have a couple of Campanulas to show.
Campanula scheuchzeri was collected by Holubec at 1600m from limestone crevices Mala Fatra Slovakia. I have tried it all over the rock garden but the only place I can keep it is in a trough which was originally just filled with limestone gravel but over the years has produced its own ‘soil’ from plant roots and other humus.
C. waldsteiniana I also have found difficult to keep when planted out and so I have to keep it in a pot.
John Forrest, Blackpool, North West England, UK |
Margaret Young (Myoung)
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Gote, I would like to think that a plant with such pretty flowers would have wonderful potato tubers under it that were of the variety "Edzell Blue" to go with the flowers! And delicious!
My sympathies to those with lily beetles... good luck with all your hunting.
John, I never count the 1st of August... our wedding anniversary is the 2nd, so "life" starts there, so to speak!And yes, we have celebrated today.... with a walk on the beach, two huge ice-cream cones and a chinese takeaway for supper.
The Bulb Despot knows how to give a girl a good time, don't he? Hang on, though, I paid for the ices... and the takeaway...come to think of it, he sent me out all those years ago to buy the marriage licence...I paid for that too ! Best seven and sixpence I've ever spent! Mind you, he's a lucky man, I'm twice the woman I was then... must be all the ices and the takeaways!!
But enough of all this reminiscing... back to the flowers...Campanulas prefer seeding themselves into places here.. we're not good at keeping them otherwise. They do seem to prefer pots (not a possibility here until a bulbous form is developed!)or a nice tight spot in a trough or wall. Lucky that they look so well in those situations. There are some very good C. betulifolia in a neighbour's wall, she gives them no attention at all.It would be good to get the rarer types growing so happily. In our garden we still need a bit more sun to get our campanulas out. Hope we get some more soon. |
Heather Smith (Peridot44)
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"First one is a mystery, can anyone tell me what this is:"
Gote, this is indeed a Solanum but you don't say if this is a wanted plant or a wild uninvited guest. If the latter it could be Woody Nightshade which produces red, shiny, poisonous berries and is hard to get rid of. I think, though, the flowers are a bit full to be the wild plant.
Heather |
Carol Shaw (Carol)
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Maggi & Ian
Happy Anniversary - may you enjoy many more amongst the bulbs and plants. Pottering in your garden for years to come 
Carol & David
Carol Shaw, Forres, Scotland |
Lesley Isabel Cox (Lcox)
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Gote, yes to the Solanum. I'm sure it's the one that grows wild here as "Jerusalem Cherry" and the red fruit are VERY poisonous, a no-no if children play round about.
I'll add my best wishes for Maggi and Ian. If he were alive, my pa would have been 98 on the 2nd and today, the 3rd, would have been my parents' 73rd wedding anniversary, and an aunt 105 years old! Anyone top that lot?
Lesley Cox, Lower South Island, New Zealand |
Göte K. A. Svanholm (Gote)
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My congratulations Margaret!
We have been married 45 years and one month next week. We had all four grandchildren at the celebration in July.
Absolutely right. It is indeed Solanum tuberosum and it is a blue variety It is called "Blue Kongo" here and supposed to be very old.
Pulling legs was not my only purpose. I also wanted to call attention to that some beauties are easy to grow. Sometimes one has to look in unlikely places.
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Margaret Young (Myoung)
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Thank you, Gote, our belated anniversary wishes to you and your wife.
These ancient potato varieties are most interesting, are they not? There are one or two experts in them not very far from here who have more than 600 varieties.They are finding that these old forms are in great demand now for breeding new vigour into stock for disease resistance and so on. The area around here in eastern Scotland is very good for growing healthy potatoes for seed.
I believe that many of the old types have much better flavour than the heavy-cropping varieties that are so often grown commercially... as with so many fruit and vegetables today. Your "Blue Kongo" has a very handsome flower indeed and is also useful... excellent plant!!
That being said, we have recently tasted a new strawberry called, Eva, I think, it is most delicious and very pretty, too! |
Ian Christie (Ichristie)
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Well, I look forward to the new "summer show I hope?" when I will take great delight in entering a large pot of Solanum tuberosum for flower and foliage, anyway here is another Lilium lancefolium grows over 6 feet high here.
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Carol Shaw (Carol)
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Hi Ian
Summer Show in Forres will take place next year
Carol Shaw, Forres, Scotland |
Lesley Isabel Cox (Lcox)
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Smacked fingers Gote! We really need to keep our wits about us on the Forum.
Lesley Cox, Lower South Island, New Zealand |
Geir Moen (Gmoen)
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A couple of plants from my garden to day. First out is Cremanthodium rhodocepahalum, second is a Lilium sp. from China, and it is about 40 cm high. I have lost the label and my skills when it comes to Lilies are not the best. Can someone out there please help me with the correct name ?
 
Geir Moen - 70 km north-east of Oslo, Norway |
Ian McEnery (Ianmcenery)
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Gote thanks for the lesson. Are we to understand this what passes for humour on the long winter nights in Norway
Ian McEnery Sutton Coldfield, West Midlands |
Margaret Young (Myoung)
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What a lovely Cremanthodium, Geir. Have you grown it from seed? We have never had much success keeping cremanthodium living long in our garden though we have not had this pink one, only yellow ones but I can't remember their names!
Ian McE., beware, this is Gote's joke from summer, think what he may do to us when winter comes! His point about finding beauty in the strangest places is well made, though, don't you think? There can be a tendency to only prize the very rare and difficult plants when there are gems all around us to brighten any day. That's why we've got some cracking dandelions.
Gote, I forgot to ask... will you post a photo of the Blue Kongos when they are dug up? It would be good to see them, please? |
John Forrest (Jof)
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Geir
I can only echo Maggi's remarks about your beautiful Cremanthodium. I have had no real success with this Genus and I think it is the latitude which is the secret since I remember seeing pictures of well grown specimens at Trontheim.
How about members listing their 'tingle factor' plants.
It's strange how some flowers have the 'tingle factor', because for me they can be very different from each other but yours certainly has it.
How about members listing their 'tingle factor' plants.
John Forrest, Blackpool, North West England, UK |
Paul Tyerman (Tyerman)
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John,
You guys up there will probably all laugh..... but a couple of my main "tingle factor" (as you so aptly put it) plants are Fritillaria imperialis and F. persica. I just adore the former and wish it was more easily growable here. My friend Lyn here in Canberra grows and flowers it happily although even she has lost half of hers this last summer in the drought. I have some coming along but have not yet flowered one of my own in the garden as yet. F. persica is one I would just love to see properly in person. I was just about sick when someone posted a pic of the row of them growing on for the "Dutch growers" in one of the threads. SO jealous. And then of course there is the variegated imperialis.... Sigh!
Just the tip of the iceburg of course. Most of the Alpine Show threads and the standard you guys all grow for your shows is a tingle to me. Just about impossible to ever grow that way here.... they are just so compact, well grown and presented. There are so many other tingle plants for me that you wouldn't want to see the list!!
OK, you can stop laughing now at my tingling over the Crown Imperial...... LOL
Paul T. Canberra, Australia. |
Lesley Isabel Cox (Lcox)
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Had a gorgeous Cremanthodium from a local nursery, raised from Chadwell seed I think. Stunning gold flowers and beetroot coloured foliage. Rotted in the first winter though. I think they need dry cold in winter.
Lesley Cox, Lower South Island, New Zealand |
Ian McEnery (Ianmcenery)
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Ah!!!!!!!!!!! Cremathodium is it the holy grail? If only my story wasn't the same. I still have 2 bits resembling tortured weeds but the more interesting ones have departed for Valhalla. But hope springs eternal- next year maybe. Just keep posting Geir so we can all admire
Ian McEnery Sutton Coldfield, West Midlands |
Ian Christie (Ichristie)
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Hi Geir, as with evryone else your Crementhodium is just fantastic only thing is I wish it was in my garden/ thanks for showing us all, Ian. |
John Forrest (Jof)
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Just time to post a few pics.
Astilbe chinensis pumila
Same again but a different form
The next is much more delicate and has attractive foliage and frothy flowers.
Astilbe simplicifolia x glaberrima
and a close up
John Forrest, Blackpool, North West England, UK |
Franz Hadacek (Fhadacek)
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Two interesting items flowering at the moment in my garden.
Leucojum valentinum from Greece
Talinum calycinum
Franz Hadacek, Vienna, Austria |
Ian Christie (Ichristie)
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Hi Franz, super close up pictures, I send Eryngium bourgatii 'Oxford Blue and Gentian trichotoma a bit late flowering this plant but welcome.
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Here's a real rock plant growing on a real rock (Newfoundland is known as "The Rock"). During the NARGS AGM Leila and I led field trips to the Hawke Hills, the highest of which, at around 700 m is the highest point on the Avalon Peninsula (where St John's lies). It is about 40 km from here right beside the Trans Canada Highway and topped by a forest of communication towers. These arise amongst an amazing collection of plants: as you might expect there are alpines like Loiseluria procumbens and Diapensia laponica, but mixed up with woodland understorey plants and even a few bog plants. This is attributed to the fact that while it is exposed and windswept it is often shrouded in fog and kept very damp.
The Diapensia here has two intermingled populations with quite different flowering seasons, one in late May - early June (along with the Loiseluria) and a second that flowers in late July - early August. Needless to say, during the NARGS visits all we saw were seed pods and early unopened buds, but last Thursday (Aug 4) there were easily 100 plants in flower.  
I collected a lot of seed pods (not quite ripe yet) and if they are fruitful I'll send some in to the SRGC seed exchange, along with some Loiseluria seeds.
Here's a couple of other plants from the same location: Bog Goldenrod, Solidago uliginosum, about 15 cm high, and one of the 7 species of clubmoss that grows up there, Diphasiatrum complanatum.
 
Howard Clase, St John's, Newfoundland. (Where it's 3.5 hours earlier than the time given above!) |
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Franz
I love the Talinum, it's a long time since I grew it and had forgotten what a beauty it is. It is easy to have one's head turned by the more 'in your face' relative, Lewisia.
Just one picture today.
Gentiana przewalskyi is as difficult to spell as it is to pronounce but has been a most reliable autumn flowerer since I sowed the seed from a 1983 collection in Koko Nor Tibet. I'm not sure whether Przewalsky had anything to do with the plant or that it was named to honour him. He is more famous for the diminutive horse named after him.
John Forrest, Blackpool, North West England, UK |
Paul Tyerman (Tyerman)
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Great pics everyone!! The Talinum and the last Gentian in particular are striking. The former I am unfamiliar with the genus, as happens so often here in the SRGC. Such a nice way to learn about new things!!
John,
Do you find that the Astilbe are a bit of a pest? I grew them here at one point but they rapidly started trying to take over the garden so I removed them (which took about 3 years to finally complete). They have nice flowers but BOY did the ones I had spread!!! 50cm in the first year is not a good sign as I just didn't have enough space to accomodate them when they ESTABLISHED! LOL Do you have yorus controlled in pots, or do they just not spread as much in your climate?
Paul T. Canberra, Australia. |
Howard Clase (Hclase)
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That gentian is lovely John. How about some seeds of that in the exchange?
The same goes for Franz and Leucojum valentinum - how hardy is that? What's the minumum temp in winter? L. autumnale is marginal here outside, but OK in an unheated frame.
Howard Clase, St John's, Newfoundland. (Where it's 3.5 hours earlier than the time given above!) |
Franz Hadacek (Fhadacek)
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John,
Congratulations for the well growing plant of Gentiana przewalskyi. I thought this rare gentian is difficult in the culture. By the way, like you seed of Talinum calycinum.
Howard,
Leucojum valentinum - although it comes from Mediterranean area it is full hardy in my garden meadow (- 15°C. no snow) and grow outside better as in the frame.
Franz Hadacek, Vienna, Austria |
Cliff Booker (Booker)
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Beautiful shots everyone....many thanks to all our contributors. Just a trio of images from the Dolomites to keep things ticking over.
Thlaspi rotundifolium is one of my 'tingle factor' plants (there are SO many), especially when seen growing in the wild and with that honey scent to die for....here are three images captured on the Marmolada.
Thlaspi rotundifolium on the Marmolada
Thlaspi full plant
Thlaspi with pollinator
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Lesley Isabel Cox (Lcox)
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Have to agree about all the above pics. Franz, you do take such super close-ups. I had and totally lost (I thought) Talinum okanagongense (?) recently and it shrivelled up and even rolled loose from the pot. But now, I notice that there are new roots forming and the little succulent stems are plumping out. It seems to be one of those "resurrection" plants that apparently die and then come to life. Ramonda and Haberlea both do it.
Lesley Cox, Lower South Island, New Zealand |
Göte K. A. Svanholm (Gote)
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Hej Geir,
Our internet provider is working on the cables so sometimes I cannot get contact. It seems that I gave up on your Lilium and never posted anything.
To me it looks like Lilium bakerianum which comes in several varities. I try to grow it but find it difficult. It is one of these that sulks in the ground until it has developed a good root system - I also suspect that it is too tender for me. |
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Paul
The Astilbes are English and therefore have a degree of restraint. Seriously though , the A.chinensis pumila does increase but not dramatically and is easily forked up to pass on to friends but the other is very slow to increase.
Howard and Franz
I will try to get some seed of the Gentian and send directly to you both. Hopefully it will produce some because I promised some Epimedium seeds earlier in the year and none of them produced any(but it was strange weather earlier in the year).
Cliff
Beautiful shots. I wish Thlaspi rotundifolium looked like that in my garden. When are yougoing to pay me a visit?
John Forrest, Blackpool, North West England, UK |
Geir Moen (Gmoen)
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Second flowering of Primula bella this year. I know I posted a picture of this plant earlier this year......hope you do not mind another wiew
Geir Moen - 70 km north-east of Oslo, Norway |
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Geir,
Beautiful Prinula. The flower looks so massive compared to the plant, yet I realise the flower itself can't be THAT big given it's relative size to the tag. That must be one diminutive crown of leaves! *grin*
Glad you posted the pic as I don't recall it last time (and wouldn't mind seeing it again even if I did!!)
Paul T. Canberra, Australia. |
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Thanks Göte, I seems that you are right. I wonder if it might be Lilium bakerianum var. delavayi (the picture i posted above) Any comments ?????
Geir Moen - 70 km north-east of Oslo, Norway |
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Ian, Do you know the Eryngium called `Picos Blue?' I ask because it looks a little like yours and I'm not sure from which species it is derived. I just know it is MAGNIFICENT! Marcus Harvey in Tasmania has just sent me some seed if you'd like to try some. When I raised a batch about 3 years ago, they sold out in just a couple of days and since then, people come back to me to say what a stunning plant it is. Truly this pic gives only a small idea of how super it is. So do try some....
I'd already have sown it this morning except that the weather is going backwards to Christmas and today is wintery again after a truly lovely week of springtime.
Lesley Cox, Lower South Island, New Zealand |
Carol Shaw (Carol)
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Lesley that Eryngium seeds like a weed in our garden - be warned!
Carol Shaw, Forres, Scotland |
Heather Smith (Peridot44)
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Eryngium bourgatii 'Picos Blue' I have it in the garden. Not a huge difference between it and the type (which I also have).
Cheers
Heather |
Ian McEnery (Ianmcenery)
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I have been growing the Philesia Magellanica for some years without much success on the flowering front. this year I have about 3/4 flowers. Does anyone flower this well and what conditions does it flourish
The following are not alpines (not many in flower at present)which give light relief. A ginger relative Cautleya Spicata Robusta which can be a bit unpredictable as to where it pops up
A dahlia relative Cosmos which I leave out in the scree covered in a mulch
A lovely fern I think Onychium Japonicum
and in detail
A Watsoniia which seems happy at the top of the scree
Codonopsis Vinciflora raise from seed many years ago happy climbing through a dwarf rhodo
And finally the largest of them all Aconitum Sparks Variety
Ian McEnery Sutton Coldfield, West Midlands |
Lesley Isabel Cox (Lcox)
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Thanks for the warning Carol. My original seedlings from Marcus' seed flowered well last summer but didn't set seed, which is why I asked him for more. I'll keep the seeding in mind when selling it. The leaves are such a super electric blue, never mind the flower stems, that it sells on sight.
Lesley Cox, Lower South Island, New Zealand |
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Ian,
Your fern is indeed Onchium japonicum,( Japanese Claw fern, Carrot Fern). I find it divides readily in the spring but not the autumn. Once it gets established it can be quite a coloniser and although it is easily removed, it can be a pest if it gets its rhizomes in amongst other things.
It sits in full sun with me, creeping into the gravel in the drive but romping into the moist bed behind.
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John H. Hampshire, South West England |
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John
I think you are very lucky as my Onchium doesn't romp but seems quite ladylike such a lovely and delicate fern. The only plant it has engulfed so far is Cyclamen Libanoticum which it seems to protect a little and was planted much too close - one of my failings.
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Ian M,
Isn't that a failing of MOST of us? LOL At least those of us with limited space anyway!! My shaded cooler areas are at a premium and my wife Yvonne laughs at me every time I say the phrase "it'll go up under the photinia" as there really isn't much room up under there any more!! The Photinia is about 6m+ tall by 4m wide and is a life saver for many of my plants as it provides wonderful heavy shade at the hottest part of the day. We've trimmed it's "skirts" up to 6 foot high so we can utilise the space underneath for growing stuff like Trilliums, Galanthus, Hellebores, Azaleas, you name it there is probably one of it underneath if I can grow it here. There isn't exactly a lot of space left now! *grin* Needless to say things get planted a little too close together. LOL
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Geir,
I should think var. aureum Growe et Cotton in Lily Year Book 8:127. 1939
That is if we are to believe Haw, "The lilies of China". LYB 1939 is too high up the shelves in my library. One day I will take a ladder and bring it down.
Has it survived outside in your place?
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I have a few Cimicifugas about in the garden. They could never be tagged as alpines but they're quite interesting, and very goiod for late summer flowering in shade, I think they're all supposed to be Actea now, but I'll reserve that for those that form berries. Here's quite an unusual one, Cimicifuga foetida. I don't reckon it smells too much of anything, faintly musty perhaps, however the wasps are on it constantly so there must be something keeping them happy. This is a good 7' tall in light shade. I have it as a Chinese species and my records tell me I got it at Inshriach, just after John Barrowman took over there in 2002. There are other yellow flowered Chinese species, but I have never seen them. If anyone knows of a good write up on the Actaeas, especially how to differentiate the black berried ones, I'd be grateful for a reference.
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A couple of wee red things on the rock garden.
Fuchsia magellanica pumila is a delightful little shrub to about 20-30cm, for the rock garden and has proved completely hardy.
Fuchsia thymaefolia is more slender and whispy to about 35cm and I have found it to be less hardy than the previous one. The flowers are very dainty (or unkindly,rather small).
I planted out this Hermannia stricta in early spring aand have yet to find out if it will survive a winter. It is quite easy from cuttings and so I have a 'banker' if it turns up its toes in the frost.
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Gentian time has arrived with two more I have probably posted these last year but they are so good at the moment Gentian septemfida type white and blue with white also Anemone obtusi;oba 'Pradesh form'
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So patriotic! Reds, whites and blue. I love them all but especially that excellent white form of Gentiana septemfida.
I'm planting out a raised bed at present, in partial shade so mainly with cool and moist-loving plants. Even so, I'll have to arrange some heavy shade cloth on some kind of a frame before the spring really sets in. Yesterday I moved G. depressa, the one I sent a pic of earlier in the year. I hope it survives the transfer but I have a good batch of young'uns if not.
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How did it do it?
I have a pot, sat on a brick pillar, in the water of a raised pond. About 50 metres away is a clump of Lobelia syphilitica (apparently ued as a remedy for a certain social disease)and a seedling has sprouted in the aforementioned pot. I don't know what the method of seed dispersal is but it's a damned good shot.
Another blue is flowering now and twining around the dwarf Rhodo bed is Codonopsis clematidea.
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John, is your Codonopsis clematidea close to C. convolvulacea? It looks very like mine of that name in both foliage and flower. The white form is beautiful too. These are super shots. Almost wish I'd kept Lobelia syphilitica instead of discarding it. (And it seems to me that that's an ANTI-social disease.)
Lesley Cox, Lower South Island, New Zealand |
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John,
Both beautiful blues aren't they. I haven't come across that species of Lobelia before but it is a nice colour, and I am going to have to look up Codonopsis as that one I haven't even heard of before other than here in the SRGC forums.... and they are climbers aren't they? Flower is very reminiscent of Platycodon and I love that dark centre. How tall do they grow to if they're a climber, or are they more of a scrambler using other plants for support?
Paul T. Canberra, Australia. |
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Lesley
Once again you have found my "Achilles Heel" or more correctly "Achilles Brain". The old grey matter is getting addled. I did of course mean C.convolvulacea. Come to think of it my C. clematidea doesn't seem to have surfaced this year.
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They are mostly climbers but I think mine are a little acrophobic because they only manage to scramble over the dwarf Rhododendrons.
Here is another which is just starting. I got this from the seed exchange as C. grey wilsonii Himal Snow.
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I'm pleased to see the Cod. `Himal Snow' because mine hasn't flowered yet. The year before last when it was about to, I knocked the twining stem clean off, when weeding nearby. Thought I'd killed it but last year it came up as several stems, but no flowers. Hopefully this year. Why I'm specially pleased, is because my white C. convolvulacea is EXACTLY like your blue John, except for colour of course. I mean that it has those slimmer, pointed petals, rather than the slightly tubby look of the later picture. But somewhere recently - maybe an AGS Bulletin - I read that what we had called convolvulacea is now renamed as grey-wilsonii with `Himal snow' the selected white form. To my mind, they're quite different.
Lesley Cox, Lower South Island, New Zealand |
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Maybe I should have posted this under another topic, but I like this one best
For the first time the rosulate viola Viola rosularis seems to flower in my scree garden, guess it is just a bit confused about the Norwegian climate since it is supposed to flower in spring.
BUT; I just wonder if someone else have noticed the behavior of this species when it is going to flower. As you can see on the plant to the left, it keeps it's leafs to the ground, while the one that have flower buds, lifts and opens up the leafs to give space for the flowers (my guess???). Is this normal even in nature? I can not remember to have seen any pictures of Viola rosularis, but other species seems to keep the tight shape even when they flower (and they look much more healthy that way). I have also notised that this species changes their position of the leafs depending on the wether, but in this (soon) flowering plant the position is permanent.
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Geir
You seem to able to grow some amazing things on ypur rock garden. I have found these very difficult to keep even with lots of 'tlc'(tender loving care). If they wern't growing together I would have said that it was a difference in light or nutrients but I guess it must be a difference in genetics.
An old lady nearby gave me a couple of Agapanthus bulbs and they are a good rich blue and fairly dwarf in stature.
The next few pis were taken at Holker Hall in Cumbria (Lake District)
This Agapanthus is white but has a rather pleasant dash of violet.
There were some super trees there and I was rather taken by this Catalpa, which I was told by the gardener had been struck by lightning but had regenerated.
I love the splendid large glossy leaves and the flowers that put me in mind of Schizanthus.
I'm not terribly well up on Rhododendrons but was most surprised to see this one which looked like many which flower in May. I'm not sure whether it was a second flowering but the whole plant was at the same stage.
John Forrest, Blackpool, North West England, UK |
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John
I am not sure if this is caused by genetics, since the plants have been identical until one of them got flower buds. The plants do have different shape during the day depending of the wether, but they always went back to the flat position in the night. Now the flowering plant seems to be locked in the more open position.
I also had some problems growing these plants until I removed them from the pots and planted them out in my scree. Now they do not need much care, but I have to make sure they do not dries out. To bad it is not many people that are into growing alpines here in Norway, because I really think we have a great climate to meet their needs.
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Congratulation Geir in having grown the viola at all! As John says, you do have some amazing plants.
John, I'm not sure if this is it but there is a magnificent white rhodo called `Polar Bear' which flowers very late - mid summer and later here. Is this it perhaps?
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Hello, John, I believe that the white rhodo might be R. auriculatum. It should have had a wonderful scent. Of course, Polar Bear has a scent too, but is unlikely to be flowering this late. Foliage is more like auriculatum, too. Was it a large plant? It looks to be quite small/young from your photo but perhaps you photographed a low-lying branch? R. auriculatum can get to considerable size. I have one, which I have been waiting at least twenty years to see a flower from. It is only about 2 metres high now, but still no sign of a flower! I am exercising this uncharacteristic patience because the flowering of this recalcitrant tree is part of a master plan! It is behind a seat, near the pond and the idea is that we should be able to sit on the seat, admire the pond and plants around, while enjoying the fabulous scent from the large whtie flowers in August. This prospect is so enticing that I am prepared to wait even longer... should I live, to have the blessed thing in flower. For ten years now, Ian has opined that the swelling buds surely hold flowers but I have never thought that to be so. It only comes into leaf growth in very late August or early September so is liable to suffer the kind of wind/frost damage seen on the leaves in your picture. The new leaves are very fragile in substance and a pale soft green. Since other rhodos of lesser charms have taken long years to flower and given the ages it can take to enjoy flowers from some of the bulb species, I feel that the wait WILL be worth it! Some Day!
Geir, we have had this sort of elongation on flowering shoots of rosulate violas and I have seen this on others of these plants so I believe it is their habit.
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I know this should be posted under 'Strange Beastie' but can Anthony on anyone tell me what kind of caterpiller this is it was found in my garden today, I let it go amongst the trees.
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Curiously, I found one just like it today. It is a large elephant hawk moth (Deilephila elpenor) caterpillar. It normally feeds on rosebay willowherb (and other spp.), but will feed on fuchsia in gardens. The beautiful pink and black moth is a very strong flyer. The pupa is found in a flimsy cocoon on the ground amongst leaves and overwinters. The defense mechanism exhibited shows false eye spots and have evolved to frighted birds. It is so named because when it reaches for a leaf it looks like and elephant's trunk reaching for food. You can almost hear it say "gie's a bun!".
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Lesley & Maggi
The Rhododendron was about 4m wide but only about 2m in height. Having said about the late flowering I have just noticed flowers on 4 of mine in the garden but only relatively few per bush. As usual I forgot to sniff the thing !!!
Lesley
Here is another Codonopsis, which looks remarkably like C. gw Himal Snow but came from the exchange as C. nepalensis alba.
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Thanks Antony for the ID, I found one last year about this time, surprisingly big, but then I've plenty of willowherb. Here it is measuring up against a standard 4" label, over 1/2" diameter, no wonder the birds think twice, "What Big Eyes you got".
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My God Ian, if that's a resize, I'd hate to meet the original! And John, yours isn't a caterpillar at all. It's something created by Walt Disney and will burst into song at any minute.
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It certainly looks just like the other John, (F) so you may have to consider the oh so rare possibility that it is wrongly named.
Lesley Cox, Lower South Island, New Zealand |
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Just a few in flower at present
Convulvulus Mauritanicus which is hardy with me -just - if grown vertiaclly in a wall.Its wet rather than cold which seeems to kill it
And a lateflowering (Flower)on Oxalis Gwen MacBride. Now seemingly happier now transferred to a trough
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I have been driven to make some picture posts of plants other than bulbs because Maggi says why do we not have colour in our garden just now? So I took her challange and hope to show we do grow other plants and a lot are in flower just now.
To begin with a series of different colour forms of Primula florindae still flowering away.
A lovely little plant that deserves to be much more widely grown is hypericum reptans, hailing from the Himalaya this form has a lovely crimson red marking on the bud before it opens its huge yellow flowers on prostrate stems.
Ian Young, Aberdeen, North Eastern Scotland. |
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Codonopsis grey wilsonii and mutisia oligodon. This is the codonopsis that we new once as C. forrestii or C. convolvulacea var forrestii before it was renamed C. grey wilsonii, and the white one shown by John above is C. grey wilsonii Himal Snow. An article outlining the name changes, and there were a few, was in the New Plantsman.
Any way this codonopsis is growing up though the rampent beast of a climber Mutisia oligodon from Argentina and Chile. It grows on a south facing wall and we have to cut it back severely every year or it would have covered the house by now.
Mutisia oligodon
It gets covered in aphids every year and as I do not like using chemicals I wash as many of them off as I can with a jet from the hose pipe and the wee birdies help by feeding on them too.
Lysimachia paridiformis var stenophylla
This is an unusual plant that has only recently been introduced into cultivation.
We were lucky to get some of the first seeds introduced and have been able to help distribute the plant into other gardens.
Ian Young, Aberdeen, North Eastern Scotland. |
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A couple for our NZ friends:-
Fushia procumbens flowers
The tiny flowers with M's finger to give the scale will be followed by huge bright red fruits.
The lovely NZ sub shrub Gaultheria procumbens with its large white berries.
(Edit: this is Gaultheria depressa, I could put this slip down to age but I have always had a mental block on this plants name.)
Gaultheria procumbens fruits
But if we look carefully we will see that they are not berries at all; the seed is contained in a dry capsule in the centere of the white swolen calex.
Ian Young, Aberdeen, North Eastern Scotland. |
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What a lovely Lysimachia! What conditions does it require?
Here are 2 flowering here - Epimedium 'Golden Eagle' STILL in flower
and for Paul, (hope he's ok he's very quiet at present) Cyclamen purpurascens Limone form.
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Glad you took the advice of 'She that must be obeyed'. I particularly like the Fuchsia, even if it is one of the prayer mat varieties. I gave up on Mutisias for the reason you mentioned becuse it seemed like a sump of infection and I didn't have a south facing wall to encourage good flowering but they are rather striking. Perhaps you may know the answer to an ID. I have 2 Eucomis flowering at th moment, the first is E. bicolor which I must feed up and repot this year because only 1 out of the 6 bulbs flowered.
The other I got at a plant fair many years ago but don't know the species. Somebody suggested E. autumnalis but don't know if that could be correct.
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Ian what size and habit is the Hypericum?
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Ian-- Gaultheria sps.are commonly know around here as snowberry.
I have on occasions eaten the berries as a 'pick me up' while tramping the hills. Interestingly enough there appears to be a variation in sweetness between the colours.I find the whites are the tastiest.(would take quite a few to fill a good sandwich however).
What position do you grow your Fushia procumbens?.Mine is a healthy looking mat but has never flowered --Probably needs more sun.
Dave
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Ian Y - Your Mutisia looks fantastic but from reading Andersons book on his gardening experiences I gained the impression this was doubtfully hardy. Do you give it any special treatment. I have raised a couple of seeedlings and would like a pointer.
Also you showed in your bulb log a plant you named Dysosma Forrestii which looked superb. I can't find any references to this elsewhere and I know there is a lot confusion over naming these particularly as most put these under Podophyllum. Do you know if it has an alias
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Anne, the Lysimachia grows in various sites in our garden in our woodsy, high humus well drained soil. I think it will grow in many conditions and in the hot south may need some shade from the mid-day sun.
John I would agree with Eucomis autumnalis for your second plant, they are looking fabulous. We grow them in the garden but they do not always like the weather we get and they have never flowered as nicely as yours, well fed in pots and given winter protection will give the best results.
Our Fuschia procumbens is growing on a raised wall, one plant is planted in the face, between the stones and another under the shelter of a dwarf rhodo. This gives them enough protection to come through the winter even though they are only marginally hardy here.
I should have sown this picture of the Mutisia seed and flower together.
Mark the hypericum is tiny although its stems can grow up to 1 meter long eventually in rich conditions. We grow it in the raised beds where it can hand down the sides and it also seeds into the cracks of the paving below.
 
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Dave the fuschia does not get a lot of sun as it is in a shady part of the garden. It took a few years to get into flowering mode.
As for the doubted hardiness of the mutisia I have read that as well but obviously the plant has not as it is as tough as old boots and we have even had it in flower with icicles hanging from it. It has been down to -21 C some winters ago when it lost its leaves but grew away from the thicker stems. I am sure that further south it would not need the south wall treatment that we give it.
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And finally it's flowering......
Viola rosulata (at least that what the label said on the seedpackage). The leafs reminded me of Viola vulcanica, but the flowers seems to fit the description of Viola rosulata.
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Ian McC.
The plant I showed as Dysosma forrestii used to be called podophyllum forrestii but has been recently revised.
Geir you are doing a great job growing the rosulate violas keep it up.
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I grow a number of Alstoemeria species from Watson & Flores seed but they are not all terribly easy to please and are invariably spring flowering unlike the dwarf A. Princess hybrids like A. Princess Paola shown below. It is very easy and dwarf and flowers continuously through the summer. Does anybody know what species were used to produce these hybrids?
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Peter J Smith would know but as far as I know he has now web site or email address
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I was out and about today at a potential new online member's garden. He got his own computer last week.
Sorry no names for most of these
unknown composite in his greenhouse. Do you know what it is and can it grow outside?
unknown trailing/creeper. What is it?
A lovely dark form of Geranium farreri
unknown double Lily. I have the ordinary form in my garden but dont know where it came from.
Mark, Antrim. Northern Ireland. z8+ |
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Mark, your grey-leaved dandelion-like plant is Andryala aghardii. It certainly does grow outside here in NZ but is reasonably short-lived, the new plants looking better anyway. As you see from your pic, there's no shortage of seed for replacements. The second seems to be an Antirrhinum species. There are quite a few so a foliage and habit pic could be helpful. The last is your basic tiger lily in a double form. I think Paul T posted a pic back in our late summer.
Lesley Cox, Lower South Island, New Zealand |
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Ian, do you think your Gaultheria could be G. depressa if an NZ native? I'm pretty sure that G. procumbens (wintergreen) is an American species and it has shiny scarlet fruit. In any case, your looks much looser than ours but perhaps that's because of being cultivated rather than in the harsher alpine climate. The leaves are usually reddish tinged. You have an excellent crop of fruit.
Lesley Cox, Lower South Island, New Zealand |
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Anne I'm thrilled by that Cyclamen. Now I'm eagerly awaiting germination from my little batch. Thanks again.
I was sent some seed from Sweden recently of Hylomecon japonicum. I don't know why but I didn't expect it to germinate. But they are up today, less than a month after sowing.
Lesley Cox, Lower South Island, New Zealand |
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Mark, I think the trailing/creeping plant is Asarina procumbens. Foliage is quite wooly/grey and little snap dragon flowers.
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Hi Mark, the Lily is the double form of what is known as the Tiger lily and is abundant in Bob Gordons garden as for the unknown creeper this is a very bad weed indeed and is a form of Linaria please deal withit via the nearest dustbin burn it first as it really spreads everywhere, must not be let into your garden Ian. |
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Mark, If the trailing plant has a sticky feel to it as you yank it out then I would go along with Maggie in saying Asarina procumbens. It can seed around but is a pretty crevace plant. I would say say weed out selectivly but allow a few self seeders to stay until a nuisance.
If it is Linaria I would still only weed selectively. I usually leave ours alone until they start seeding then haul out loads of mature plants to the bin. I don't burn them as a few escapees can add interest to the landfill site (forget that I said that! ).
David Shaw, Forres, Scotland |
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Doesn't Asarina procumbens have yellow flowers?
Anthony Darby, Dunblane, Perthshire. |
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Better go with the Linaria Mark. Anthony's right, Asarina procumbens (syn. Antirrhinum asarina) DOES have pale yelow flowers. Makes a good climber in a cool place but does seed around.
Lesley Cox, Lower South Island, New Zealand |
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Our Asarina had white flowers with yellow bits! Looking more closely at the picture, I believe the leaves look more Linaria-like or even Cymbalaria. Just a bit difficult with such a close-up of the flower! It's keeping us occupied, though, isn't it?
M. Young, Aberdeen North East Scotland |
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The yellow cheeked white flower comes from a plant with 5 lobed glaucous leaves. Is it definitely a thug?
Mark, Antrim. Northern Ireland. z8+ |
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It's Cymbalaria muralis ‘alba'/'Kenilworth White aka Ivy leaved Toadflax
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Mark, this is a thug and must not be allowed to escape to your garden it is a must for the fire, Ian. |
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Just a few flowers and plants flowering now. First is Lobelia Dark Crusader
A rather late or early Daphne Rolsdorfii
A view in my wild garden of Eucryphia Rostrevor and Hydrangea Villosa with a close up of the Eucryphia
Allium Beesianum
Allium Carinatum Pulchellum
Eucomis Comosa
Ian McEnery Sutton Coldfield, West Midlands |
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Mmm. Ivy-leaved toadflax. So the flowers won't be 1" long then? Around here it is a thin spindly wall hugger with more purple on the petals, which are larger relative to the centre than in your picture Mark. The leaves are lobed and definitely not hairy, being rather shiny. The flowers are about a quarter on an inch across.
Anthony Darby, Dunblane, Perthshire. |
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We had a fantastic sky formation the other night so here is a picture plus two pics of gentiana farreri wild collected from China first flowers and a new Roscoea called Brown Peacock it looks like Pheonix to me but is very interesting, Ian.
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Superb sunset Ian, nearly as good as some of ours.
I love the gentians and the roscoea too, the coloured foliage gives it real class.
Since I know you grow it, would you give me some advice please, about Gymnospermium albertii. I bought some seeds back in our late summer from Jan Jilek. They have all germinated over the last couple of weeks and I need to know what now? There are 16 in a square pot 5" across, so they have a little room to spare for now. Should I tip them out and pot them on or leave them for another season? I assume from your earlier pics that the plant is deciduous. What sort of root does it have? Thanks.
Lesley Cox, Lower South Island, New Zealand |
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As some of you know I cover my raised beds with annuals during the summer. These are removed and composted next month. Here are a few of the plants I use
Ratibida
An annual Chrysanthemum
Dimorphotheca
Osteospermum
Mark, Antrim. Northern Ireland. z8+ |
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here's a lovely small Campanula from one of my troughs.
C. 'Marion Fischer'
and three plants that need identified
Sisyrichium ?
a very small flower Hypericum which appeared growing in a peat block
and very poorly taken photos of a double blue Campanula with ?distinct buds
Mark, Antrim. Northern Ireland. z8+ |
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Normally this small Sternbergia colchiciflora needs a bulb frame or an alpine house but in my garden it grows much better in my meadow together with Merendera montana.
Sternbergia colchiciflora
Merendera montana
Franz Hadacek, Vienna, Austria |
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That white campanula is pretty, Mark. I also use annuals to fill gaps - this is a current favourite for the beautifully marked nectaries, Nigella hispanica.
It also has fantastic seedpods:
Hope we don't get thrown off the forum for showing annuals...
Anne, North Yorkshire, England |
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Mark
Your Sisyrinchium is S.idahoensis(syn macounii alba)
Don't worry about showing annuals, at least they are supposed to last only a year. Think about the perennials that do the same. I could reach the ridge tiles on my roof if I put all the labels from my 'dead plant box' on top of each other. Sigh!
Just to join the theme for a while, here are a couple of Poppies which re-sow themselves.The second looks like a hybrid cross from one called Ladybird.
John Forrest, Blackpool, North West England, UK |
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I hope this Sisyrinchium is well behaved. It's flowering now for the first time since I got it.
Mark, Antrim. Northern Ireland. z8+ |
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Lovely pics all!! Those poppies certainly stand out don't they!!
Ian Y.... impressive colours to the Primula florindae. I thought that species just came in yellow, so obviously there have been some interesting breedings going on. Lovely apricot and dusky shades in there which must look beautiful in the garden!!
Anne.... thank you very much for the Cyclamen pic. Definitely looking forward to some of the seeds hopefully germinating for me!!
John.... nice to see some Eucomis here. Yet another thing I collect (like there aren't already enough things! LOL). I have yet to flower bicolor but hope to one of these years as I love the pics of it that I have seen.
Franz..... I've never come across Sternbergia colchiciflora before. Looks much more delicate than the lutea and sicula (what we have here in Aus as lutea apparently). How big are the flowers? Is this something that exists in horticulture or is this a wild species that is never seen in collections?
I'd better stop commenting on specific pics here or this post will end up too long. Again, great pic everyone and thanks for posting them.
Paul T. Canberra, Australia. |
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Franz I love the yellow Colchicum too. I have seed from this species but sown 3 years ago and nothing up yet. Is it worth waiting another year or two before consigning the pot to the vegetable garden?
Mark, I'm pretty sure that your Sisyrinchium is sterile and so sets no seed. Certainly it doesn't here. It gradually makes a big clump though and is best divided every 2 or 3 years to encourage new, fresh growth.
Lesley Cox, Lower South Island, New Zealand |
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Ian C or someone, I really do need urgent advice now about the Gymnospermium. There are now 25 seedlings (every one had come up) and they are in a 4" square pot, not 5" as I thought, and their roots are out the bottom already. HELP please!
Lesley Cox, Lower South Island, New Zealand |
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Lesley, Paul
Sternbergia colchiciflora has the smallest blooms of all species. The yellow flower are sweet-scented, just 2.5 cm long and carried at ground level.
I do not have good successes with the seed propagation with the bulbs. But many bulbs increasing itself in my bulb frame and meadow. Also S. colchiciflora will spread by self-sown seedlings.
Franz Hadacek, Vienna, Austria |
Göte K. A. Svanholm (Gote)
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Re Unknown trailing creeper.
I cannot understand how anyone can identify any plant from a closeup of two flowers, head on alone.
What about leaves, calyx, roots etc?
Even less I can understand how it can be identified as something that MUST be burnt.
If it happens to be Cymbalaria muralis, That is something that I have inherited from my grandfather. It grows in a couple of old concrete stairs and has demurely sat there for at least half a century without disturbing anything. It would also be an unusual color form perhaps a rare collectors item for someone interested in Cymbalaria.
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Hi Gote, I have weeded out the plant like Mark's posting for many years it runs around everywhere and the picture looks very like what I have I could be wrong certainly, but you are correct if you like it then keep it going, I am sorry it would get pulled out here soonest Ian.
Lesley, gymnospermium seedling I would leave for another season, this plant produces a bulb/tuber which gets bigger and better every year we have never grown it outside in the open but it is happy with very basic winter cover, Ian. |
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Mark
If this is your Sisyrinchium then it is a seeder. It comes up all over my garden but on the plus side it is very easily pulled out.
John Forrest, Blackpool, North West England, UK |
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John it's a lovely Sisyrinchium either way.
Gote after work tomorrow I'll take photos of the leaves, roosts and runners. I see them hanging dead all over my twon this having suffered from the drought we have had. We had the first prolonged rain in months yesterday. It rained most of the day.
Mark, Antrim. Northern Ireland. z8+ |
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John,
Please remember me when pulling out those Sisyrinchiums. A few in an envelope would be appreciated. |
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Charlotte
If John is wise he is pulling out befor seeding stage!
Carol Shaw, Forres, Scotland |
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Carol,
But surely, one or two will have escaped the keen eye of this most experienced of gardeners! One man's junk another man's treasure ...... Perhaps we should start a topic "unwanted junk"? |
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Charlotte
I have done what Carol said but am not so sure about the wise bit. If I can find any seed I will save it for you but I could let you have a few plants but am not sure where you live in this great world of the forum and whether youare allowed to receive plants. You can e-mail me by clicking on my name.
John Forrest, Blackpool, North West England, UK |
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Here is a picture of my Stellera chamaejasme. Now it's flowering for the first time in my rock garden. I searched for this species for several years, and about two years ago I got two tiny (sorry Ron) plants from Lamberton Nursery. But of course the quality was very good, so they have both survived outside here in my garden, and I am just.........HAPPY
(guess this is a bit later than normal flowering season for this species ?)
Geir Moen - 70 km north-east of Oslo, Norway |
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Geir congratulations and Well done
I did the same buying one from Ron 2 years ago. I also showed the plant in growth earlier this year in my scree with 3 shoots, but alas on my return from my hols it looked dishevelled and burnt. I have left it until this week and having looked at the crown I have found it to be rotten. So I am just ......... unhappy!
Now I am looking for a replacement
Ian McEnery Sutton Coldfield, West Midlands |
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John re your Campanula waldsteiniana Margaret Glynn was telling me tonight she has hers growing happily outside in two troughs which get little or no sun in very gritty soil with added lime.
Mark, Antrim. Northern Ireland. z8+ |
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Mark
Thanks for that useful advice but I have difficulty in my garden to find such a site. I can squeeze a large pot in a fairly shady area though.
John Forrest, Blackpool, North West England, UK |
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Just a couple of reds on offer. They were both taken a couple of weeks ago but I hadn't resized them. First Ourisia coccinea which is in the humus bed (used to be a peat bed before the guilt set in).
This is a jolly useful plant for covering up unsightly bits of the bottom of the alpine house and is fairly easy to pullout if it runs in the wrong direction. Zauschneria californica
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I hope your Campanula lives outside just like Margarets.
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Going back to Mark's Sisyrinchium, I'm pretty sure his single flower pic was not the same species as John's stem.The shape is different. If it's John's, it's a disaster waiting to happen but if it's what I think it is, (S. macounii album) it's a good and exceptionally well behaved plant. Can you show the whole plant Mark? That little bit of leaf to the side seems to tell the story.
Lesley Cox, Lower South Island, New Zealand |
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I shall try not to be insulted by the term 'a disaster waiting to happen'.
I have 4 species of Cyclamen all in flower at the moment.
Cyclamen (europeum) purpurascens
Now that the rain has soaked the soil the Cyclamen hederifolium are starting to push through. I have hundreds of plants, thanks to the diligent work of the ants ditributing the seeds. This white form is very large compared to the standard ones and has generously proportioned petals.
I will post the others later due to an exciting juncture at the Test Match.
John Forrest, Blackpool, North West England, UK |
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at the start of this thread gote said he had trouble with lilybeetles,
its proberbly been mentioned a million times before but has anyone tried using neem,
it repeles insects without killing them, is completly harmless to animals as well,
so the birds can still feed on the insect without being poisoned,
its been used in india for centuries,
I think it actually lets bees and pollinating insects onto the plants,
of course the chemical manufactures have been trying to synthesise it for decades,I trust the natural product myself,
it would be nice to know if you had heard of it before. |
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I can follow the test match and post at the same time on the same computer! (They shouldn't have enforced the follow on!)
Here's a picture of my best Cyclamen purpurascens taken in the morning sun today. It's one of a group of five growing under a Balsam Fir at the back.
Percy Thrower once visited our garden here before it really was a garden; he came to see the wild Cypripediums. I think he was visiting a distant cousin who lived in Newfoundland! Must have been 25 years ago or more.
Howard Clase, St John's, Newfoundland. (Where it's 3.5 hours earlier than the time given above!) |
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Howard,
Glorious pic of the Cyclamen purpurascens.... wonderful display. I still have a couple of flowers on mine here in Australia as well, although tail end of season. Still quite some time until our hederifoliums surface though John..... given they are still in leaf! Great to see the pics of them though.
Re the cricket.....I think the followon worked just fine eh? Well for you guys anyway! LOL If only England had had to get another 50 runs..... then it would have been a real cliffhanger. Still, England well and truely deserved to win the game as they did so much better than the Aussies unfortunately.
Paul T. Canberra, Australia. |
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Licking your wounds Paul? They'll be a lot worse come Saturday night when the ABs clean up the Wallabies! Did you like the new haka? It was SO fierce that I found it almost embarrassing. Tana Umaga should be on the stage, not playing rugby!
Two very fine Cyclamen, the white hederifolium and Howard's purpurascens. Coum is hanging on well here and pseudibericum just starting. And John, your Ourisia coccinea is much superior to the form we have in NZ. I don't find it easy in my dry garden but persevere because I'd like to try the cross with our own whites. The smaller species do well for me but the larger are again, sufferers from a too dry soil. Ourisia microphylla is happy in perpetually damp sand/leafmould mixture.
Lesley Cox, Lower South Island, New Zealand |
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On the stage? There's one leaving in five minutes. Tell him to be on it! That'll be one less to trouble us.
Anthony Darby, Dunblane, Perthshire. |
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, August 29, 2005 - 10:26 am: | |
On the stage? There's one leaving in five minutes. Tell him to be on it! That'll be one less to trouble us.
Anthony Darby, Dunblane, Perthshire. |
John Forrest (Jof)
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Post Number: 355
Registered: 12-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, August 29, 2005 - 8:42 pm: | |
Howard
That's a glorious C. purpurascens.
The Aussies certainly were scrappers to the end, even though it seemed a foregone conclusion at first. All credit to them, especially Warney who always manages a wry grin when times get tough.
here are the other 2 Cyclamen mentioned above.
C.mirabile Tilebarn Jan which seems to be a lot earlier than usual.
I said I had 4 different species but this is just another FORM of C. hederifolium.
John Forrest, Blackpool, North West England, UK |
Lesley Isabel Cox (Lcox)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, August 30, 2005 - 4:53 am: | |
Anthony I'm surprised the Brits haven't caught up with the rest of us in the matter of transport. Our coaches are no longer stage, but rugby which is probably why Clive woodward looked a little bemused.
Lesley Cox, Lower South Island, New Zealand |
John Forrest (Jof)
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Have I been done!?
I bought a bulb of Leucojum valentinum from a 'reputable source'. Below is a picture of it on the left and stuck into the same pot on the right is my L. autumnale pulchellum from ABS collected seed.
Next is the lovely L. roseum, which doesn't seem to stay in flower long compared to L. autumnale.
John Forrest, Blackpool, North West England, UK |
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