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Carol Shaw (Carol)
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Nope no pixs to post just wanted the new thread to start
Carol Shaw, Forres, Scotland |
Margaret Young (Myoung)
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Thanks, Carol, I just came to open a page to get things going and you'd just done that very thing. Excellent! Now all we need is someone with some flowers to show!! |
Göte K. A. Svanholm (Gote)
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In volunteer !!
First one is a mystery, can anyone tell me what this is:
The next one is Lilium superbum. It grows wonderfully well in my woodland and is a real beauty at a time when not much is in flower there. Unfortunately the lilybeetles also find it a favourite.
Both picks from August first.
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Thomas Huber (Hubi1)
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Hi Göte!
Same problem with the lilybeetles here in Germany. Does anybody have an idea what will help against them?
I picked them by hand so far! About 200 this year plus 200 larvas!!!
Thomas Huber, Neustadt/Hessen, Germany |
Göte K. A. Svanholm (Gote)
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Unfortunately I have no better way myself. I try to place my more precious lilies, Nomocharis and Fritillaria in locations where picking is easy. I think I have picked a hundred beetles thus far and many more larvae. The beetles are fortunately quite unabashed so i could get a fair number of them in pairs. |
Ian McEnery (Ianmcenery)
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Gote
I think your mystery plant is a Solanum of some kind (potato family). I hope this helps
Ian McEnery Sutton Coldfield, West Midlands |
John Forrest (Jof)
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Maggi I think you have been a bit tardy letting August nearly slip by without making a new thread.
Thanks for trying to ID my Oenothera, I will keep looking.I have a couple of Campanulas to show.
Campanula scheuchzeri was collected by Holubec at 1600m from limestone crevices Mala Fatra Slovakia. I have tried it all over the rock garden but the only place I can keep it is in a trough which was originally just filled with limestone gravel but over the years has produced its own ‘soil’ from plant roots and other humus.
C. waldsteiniana I also have found difficult to keep when planted out and so I have to keep it in a pot.
John Forrest, Blackpool, North West England, UK |
Margaret Young (Myoung)
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Gote, I would like to think that a plant with such pretty flowers would have wonderful potato tubers under it that were of the variety "Edzell Blue" to go with the flowers! And delicious!
My sympathies to those with lily beetles... good luck with all your hunting.
John, I never count the 1st of August... our wedding anniversary is the 2nd, so "life" starts there, so to speak!And yes, we have celebrated today.... with a walk on the beach, two huge ice-cream cones and a chinese takeaway for supper.
The Bulb Despot knows how to give a girl a good time, don't he? Hang on, though, I paid for the ices... and the takeaway...come to think of it, he sent me out all those years ago to buy the marriage licence...I paid for that too ! Best seven and sixpence I've ever spent! Mind you, he's a lucky man, I'm twice the woman I was then... must be all the ices and the takeaways!!
But enough of all this reminiscing... back to the flowers...Campanulas prefer seeding themselves into places here.. we're not good at keeping them otherwise. They do seem to prefer pots (not a possibility here until a bulbous form is developed!)or a nice tight spot in a trough or wall. Lucky that they look so well in those situations. There are some very good C. betulifolia in a neighbour's wall, she gives them no attention at all.It would be good to get the rarer types growing so happily. In our garden we still need a bit more sun to get our campanulas out. Hope we get some more soon. |
Heather Smith (Peridot44)
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"First one is a mystery, can anyone tell me what this is:"
Gote, this is indeed a Solanum but you don't say if this is a wanted plant or a wild uninvited guest. If the latter it could be Woody Nightshade which produces red, shiny, poisonous berries and is hard to get rid of. I think, though, the flowers are a bit full to be the wild plant.
Heather |
Carol Shaw (Carol)
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Maggi & Ian
Happy Anniversary - may you enjoy many more amongst the bulbs and plants. Pottering in your garden for years to come 
Carol & David
Carol Shaw, Forres, Scotland |
Lesley Isabel Cox (Lcox)
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Gote, yes to the Solanum. I'm sure it's the one that grows wild here as "Jerusalem Cherry" and the red fruit are VERY poisonous, a no-no if children play round about.
I'll add my best wishes for Maggi and Ian. If he were alive, my pa would have been 98 on the 2nd and today, the 3rd, would have been my parents' 73rd wedding anniversary, and an aunt 105 years old! Anyone top that lot?
Lesley Cox, Lower South Island, New Zealand |
Göte K. A. Svanholm (Gote)
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My congratulations Margaret!
We have been married 45 years and one month next week. We had all four grandchildren at the celebration in July.
Absolutely right. It is indeed Solanum tuberosum and it is a blue variety It is called "Blue Kongo" here and supposed to be very old.
Pulling legs was not my only purpose. I also wanted to call attention to that some beauties are easy to grow. Sometimes one has to look in unlikely places.
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Margaret Young (Myoung)
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Thank you, Gote, our belated anniversary wishes to you and your wife.
These ancient potato varieties are most interesting, are they not? There are one or two experts in them not very far from here who have more than 600 varieties.They are finding that these old forms are in great demand now for breeding new vigour into stock for disease resistance and so on. The area around here in eastern Scotland is very good for growing healthy potatoes for seed.
I believe that many of the old types have much better flavour than the heavy-cropping varieties that are so often grown commercially... as with so many fruit and vegetables today. Your "Blue Kongo" has a very handsome flower indeed and is also useful... excellent plant!!
That being said, we have recently tasted a new strawberry called, Eva, I think, it is most delicious and very pretty, too! |
Ian Christie (Ichristie)
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Well, I look forward to the new "summer show I hope?" when I will take great delight in entering a large pot of Solanum tuberosum for flower and foliage, anyway here is another Lilium lancefolium grows over 6 feet high here.
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Carol Shaw (Carol)
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Hi Ian
Summer Show in Forres will take place next year
Carol Shaw, Forres, Scotland |
Lesley Isabel Cox (Lcox)
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Smacked fingers Gote! We really need to keep our wits about us on the Forum.
Lesley Cox, Lower South Island, New Zealand |
Geir Moen (Gmoen)
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A couple of plants from my garden to day. First out is Cremanthodium rhodocepahalum, second is a Lilium sp. from China, and it is about 40 cm high. I have lost the label and my skills when it comes to Lilies are not the best. Can someone out there please help me with the correct name ?
 
Geir Moen - 70 km north-east of Oslo, Norway |
Ian McEnery (Ianmcenery)
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Gote thanks for the lesson. Are we to understand this what passes for humour on the long winter nights in Norway
Ian McEnery Sutton Coldfield, West Midlands |
Margaret Young (Myoung)
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What a lovely Cremanthodium, Geir. Have you grown it from seed? We have never had much success keeping cremanthodium living long in our garden though we have not had this pink one, only yellow ones but I can't remember their names!
Ian McE., beware, this is Gote's joke from summer, think what he may do to us when winter comes! His point about finding beauty in the strangest places is well made, though, don't you think? There can be a tendency to only prize the very rare and difficult plants when there are gems all around us to brighten any day. That's why we've got some cracking dandelions.
Gote, I forgot to ask... will you post a photo of the Blue Kongos when they are dug up? It would be good to see them, please? |
John Forrest (Jof)
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Geir
I can only echo Maggi's remarks about your beautiful Cremanthodium. I have had no real success with this Genus and I think it is the latitude which is the secret since I remember seeing pictures of well grown specimens at Trontheim.
How about members listing their 'tingle factor' plants.
It's strange how some flowers have the 'tingle factor', because for me they can be very different from each other but yours certainly has it.
How about members listing their 'tingle factor' plants.
John Forrest, Blackpool, North West England, UK |
Paul Tyerman (Tyerman)
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John,
You guys up there will probably all laugh..... but a couple of my main "tingle factor" (as you so aptly put it) plants are Fritillaria imperialis and F. persica. I just adore the former and wish it was more easily growable here. My friend Lyn here in Canberra grows and flowers it happily although even she has lost half of hers this last summer in the drought. I have some coming along but have not yet flowered one of my own in the garden as yet. F. persica is one I would just love to see properly in person. I was just about sick when someone posted a pic of the row of them growing on for the "Dutch growers" in one of the threads. SO jealous. And then of course there is the variegated imperialis.... Sigh!
Just the tip of the iceburg of course. Most of the Alpine Show threads and the standard you guys all grow for your shows is a tingle to me. Just about impossible to ever grow that way here.... they are just so compact, well grown and presented. There are so many other tingle plants for me that you wouldn't want to see the list!!
OK, you can stop laughing now at my tingling over the Crown Imperial...... LOL
Paul T. Canberra, Australia. |
Lesley Isabel Cox (Lcox)
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Had a gorgeous Cremanthodium from a local nursery, raised from Chadwell seed I think. Stunning gold flowers and beetroot coloured foliage. Rotted in the first winter though. I think they need dry cold in winter.
Lesley Cox, Lower South Island, New Zealand |
Ian McEnery (Ianmcenery)
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Ah!!!!!!!!!!! Cremathodium is it the holy grail? If only my story wasn't the same. I still have 2 bits resembling tortured weeds but the more interesting ones have departed for Valhalla. But hope springs eternal- next year maybe. Just keep posting Geir so we can all admire
Ian McEnery Sutton Coldfield, West Midlands |
Ian Christie (Ichristie)
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Hi Geir, as with evryone else your Crementhodium is just fantastic only thing is I wish it was in my garden/ thanks for showing us all, Ian. |
John Forrest (Jof)
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Just time to post a few pics.
Astilbe chinensis pumila
Same again but a different form
The next is much more delicate and has attractive foliage and frothy flowers.
Astilbe simplicifolia x glaberrima
and a close up
John Forrest, Blackpool, North West England, UK |
Franz Hadacek (Fhadacek)
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Two interesting items flowering at the moment in my garden.
Leucojum valentinum from Greece
Talinum calycinum
Franz Hadacek, Vienna, Austria |
Ian Christie (Ichristie)
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Hi Franz, super close up pictures, I send Eryngium bourgatii 'Oxford Blue and Gentian trichotoma a bit late flowering this plant but welcome.
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Here's a real rock plant growing on a real rock (Newfoundland is known as "The Rock"). During the NARGS AGM Leila and I led field trips to the Hawke Hills, the highest of which, at around 700 m is the highest point on the Avalon Peninsula (where St John's lies). It is about 40 km from here right beside the Trans Canada Highway and topped by a forest of communication towers. These arise amongst an amazing collection of plants: as you might expect there are alpines like Loiseluria procumbens and Diapensia laponica, but mixed up with woodland understorey plants and even a few bog plants. This is attributed to the fact that while it is exposed and windswept it is often shrouded in fog and kept very damp.
The Diapensia here has two intermingled populations with quite different flowering seasons, one in late May - early June (along with the Loiseluria) and a second that flowers in late July - early August. Needless to say, during the NARGS visits all we saw were seed pods and early unopened buds, but last Thursday (Aug 4) there were easily 100 plants in flower.  
I collected a lot of seed pods (not quite ripe yet) and if they are fruitful I'll send some in to the SRGC seed exchange, along with some Loiseluria seeds.
Here's a couple of other plants from the same location: Bog Goldenrod, Solidago uliginosum, about 15 cm high, and one of the 7 species of clubmoss that grows up there, Diphasiatrum complanatum.
 
Howard Clase, St John's, Newfoundland. (Where it's 3.5 hours earlier than the time given above!) |
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Franz
I love the Talinum, it's a long time since I grew it and had forgotten what a beauty it is. It is easy to have one's head turned by the more 'in your face' relative, Lewisia.
Just one picture today.
Gentiana przewalskyi is as difficult to spell as it is to pronounce but has been a most reliable autumn flowerer since I sowed the seed from a 1983 collection in Koko Nor Tibet. I'm not sure whether Przewalsky had anything to do with the plant or that it was named to honour him. He is more famous for the diminutive horse named after him.
John Forrest, Blackpool, North West England, UK |
Paul Tyerman (Tyerman)
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Great pics everyone!! The Talinum and the last Gentian in particular are striking. The former I am unfamiliar with the genus, as happens so often here in the SRGC. Such a nice way to learn about new things!!
John,
Do you find that the Astilbe are a bit of a pest? I grew them here at one point but they rapidly started trying to take over the garden so I removed them (which took about 3 years to finally complete). They have nice flowers but BOY did the ones I had spread!!! 50cm in the first year is not a good sign as I just didn't have enough space to accomodate them when they ESTABLISHED! LOL Do you have yorus controlled in pots, or do they just not spread as much in your climate?
Paul T. Canberra, Australia. |
Howard Clase (Hclase)
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That gentian is lovely John. How about some seeds of that in the exchange?
The same goes for Franz and Leucojum valentinum - how hardy is that? What's the minumum temp in winter? L. autumnale is marginal here outside, but OK in an unheated frame.
Howard Clase, St John's, Newfoundland. (Where it's 3.5 hours earlier than the time given above!) |
Franz Hadacek (Fhadacek)
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John,
Congratulations for the well growing plant of Gentiana przewalskyi. I thought this rare gentian is difficult in the culture. By the way, like you seed of Talinum calycinum.
Howard,
Leucojum valentinum - although it comes from Mediterranean area it is full hardy in my garden meadow (- 15°C. no snow) and grow outside better as in the frame.
Franz Hadacek, Vienna, Austria |
Cliff Booker (Booker)
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Beautiful shots everyone....many thanks to all our contributors. Just a trio of images from the Dolomites to keep things ticking over.
Thlaspi rotundifolium is one of my 'tingle factor' plants (there are SO many), especially when seen growing in the wild and with that honey scent to die for....here are three images captured on the Marmolada.
Thlaspi rotundifolium on the Marmolada
Thlaspi full plant
Thlaspi with pollinator
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Lesley Isabel Cox (Lcox)
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Have to agree about all the above pics. Franz, you do take such super close-ups. I had and totally lost (I thought) Talinum okanagongense (?) recently and it shrivelled up and even rolled loose from the pot. But now, I notice that there are new roots forming and the little succulent stems are plumping out. It seems to be one of those "resurrection" plants that apparently die and then come to life. Ramonda and Haberlea both do it.
Lesley Cox, Lower South Island, New Zealand |
Göte K. A. Svanholm (Gote)
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Hej Geir,
Our internet provider is working on the cables so sometimes I cannot get contact. It seems that I gave up on your Lilium and never posted anything.
To me it looks like Lilium bakerianum which comes in several varities. I try to grow it but find it difficult. It is one of these that sulks in the ground until it has developed a good root system - I also suspect that it is too tender for me. |
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Paul
The Astilbes are English and therefore have a degree of restraint. Seriously though , the A.chinensis pumila does increase but not dramatically and is easily forked up to pass on to friends but the other is very slow to increase.
Howard and Franz
I will try to get some seed of the Gentian and send directly to you both. Hopefully it will produce some because I promised some Epimedium seeds earlier in the year and none of them produced any(but it was strange weather earlier in the year).
Cliff
Beautiful shots. I wish Thlaspi rotundifolium looked like that in my garden. When are yougoing to pay me a visit?
John Forrest, Blackpool, North West England, UK |
Geir Moen (Gmoen)
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Second flowering of Primula bella this year. I know I posted a picture of this plant earlier this year......hope you do not mind another wiew
Geir Moen - 70 km north-east of Oslo, Norway |
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Geir,
Beautiful Prinula. The flower looks so massive compared to the plant, yet I realise the flower itself can't be THAT big given it's relative size to the tag. That must be one diminutive crown of leaves! *grin*
Glad you posted the pic as I don't recall it last time (and wouldn't mind seeing it again even if I did!!)
Paul T. Canberra, Australia. |
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Thanks Göte, I seems that you are right. I wonder if it might be Lilium bakerianum var. delavayi (the picture i posted above) Any comments ?????
Geir Moen - 70 km north-east of Oslo, Norway |
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Ian, Do you know the Eryngium called `Picos Blue?' I ask because it looks a little like yours and I'm not sure from which species it is derived. I just know it is MAGNIFICENT! Marcus Harvey in Tasmania has just sent me some seed if you'd like to try some. When I raised a batch about 3 years ago, they sold out in just a couple of days and since then, people come back to me to say what a stunning plant it is. Truly this pic gives only a small idea of how super it is. So do try some....
I'd already have sown it this morning except that the weather is going backwards to Christmas and today is wintery again after a truly lovely week of springtime.
Lesley Cox, Lower South Island, New Zealand |
Carol Shaw (Carol)
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Lesley that Eryngium seeds like a weed in our garden - be warned!
Carol Shaw, Forres, Scotland |
Heather Smith (Peridot44)
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Eryngium bourgatii 'Picos Blue' I have it in the garden. Not a huge difference between it and the type (which I also have).
Cheers
Heather |
Ian McEnery (Ianmcenery)
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I have been growing the Philesia Magellanica for some years without much success on the flowering front. this year I have about 3/4 flowers. Does anyone flower this well and what conditions does it flourish
The following are not alpines (not many in flower at present)which give light relief. A ginger relative Cautleya Spicata Robusta which can be a bit unpredictable as to where it pops up
A dahlia relative Cosmos which I leave out in the scree covered in a mulch
A lovely fern I think Onychium Japonicum
and in detail
A Watsoniia which seems happy at the top of the scree
Codonopsis Vinciflora raise from seed many years ago happy climbing through a dwarf rhodo
And finally the largest of them all Aconitum Sparks Variety
Ian McEnery Sutton Coldfield, West Midlands |
Lesley Isabel Cox (Lcox)
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Thanks for the warning Carol. My original seedlings from Marcus' seed flowered well last summer but didn't set seed, which is why I asked him for more. I'll keep the seeding in mind when selling it. The leaves are such a super electric blue, never mind the flower stems, that it sells on sight.
Lesley Cox, Lower South Island, New Zealand |
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Ian,
Your fern is indeed Onchium japonicum,( Japanese Claw fern, Carrot Fern). I find it divides readily in the spring but not the autumn. Once it gets established it can be quite a coloniser and although it is easily removed, it can be a pest if it gets its rhizomes in amongst other things.
It sits in full sun with me, creeping into the gravel in the drive but romping into the moist bed behind.
Cheers
John H. Hampshire, South West England |
Ian McEnery (Ianmcenery)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 - 9:56 am: | |
John
I think you are very lucky as my Onchium doesn't romp but seems quite ladylike such a lovely and delicate fern. The only plant it has engulfed so far is Cyclamen Libanoticum which it seems to protect a little and was planted much too close - one of my failings.
Ian McEnery Sutton Coldfield, West Midlands |
Paul Tyerman (Tyerman)
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Ian M,
Isn't that a failing of MOST of us? LOL At least those of us with limited space anyway!! My shaded cooler areas are at a premium and my wife Yvonne laughs at me every time I say the phrase "it'll go up under the photinia" as there really isn't much room up under there any more!! The Photinia is about 6m+ tall by 4m wide and is a life saver for many of my plants as it provides wonderful heavy shade at the hottest part of the day. We've trimmed it's "skirts" up to 6 foot high so we can utilise the space underneath for growing stuff like Trilliums, Galanthus, Hellebores, Azaleas, you name it there is probably one of it underneath if I can grow it here. There isn't exactly a lot of space left now! *grin* Needless to say things get planted a little too close together. LOL
Paul T. Canberra, Australia. |
Göte K. A. Svanholm (Gote)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 - 5:38 pm: | |
Geir,
I should think var. aureum Growe et Cotton in Lily Year Book 8:127. 1939
That is if we are to believe Haw, "The lilies of China". LYB 1939 is too high up the shelves in my library. One day I will take a ladder and bring it down.
Has it survived outside in your place?
Göte |
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 - 5:52 pm: | |
I have a few Cimicifugas about in the garden. They could never be tagged as alpines but they're quite interesting, and very goiod for late summer flowering in shade, I think they're all supposed to be Actea now, but I'll reserve that for those that form berries. Here's quite an unusual one, Cimicifuga foetida. I don't reckon it smells too much of anything, faintly musty perhaps, however the wasps are on it constantly so there must be something keeping them happy. This is a good 7' tall in light shade. I have it as a Chinese species and my records tell me I got it at Inshriach, just after John Barrowman took over there in 2002. There are other yellow flowered Chinese species, but I have never seen them. If anyone knows |
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