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Margaret Young (Myoung)
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Hello, Friends, let's begin a new page to enjoy your July flowers! |
Anthony Darby (Adarby)
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re: cricket and cycling....."normal service has been resumed!"
Anthony Darby, Dunblane, Perthshire. |
John Forrest (Jof)
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Mid July already??? How many days are you expecting this July Maggie? Is it a new Common Market ruling that we have to cut back on the number of days in the month? grin
Here are a few flowers to start us off. Being an old softy, I like pretty, little, frothy flowers like
Thalictrum kiusianum which I always grow in a pot so that I can lift it up to get a closer look, rather than bending down. I can just about remember the days that those considerations never crossed my mind. Sigh!
Another delicate frothy one is
Micromeria croatica
The last is not in the same category but I love the colour of the foliage which sets off the blue flowers of
Veronica prostrata Trehane
John Forrest, Blackpool, North West England, UK |
Anne Wright (Annsie)
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Mine is in a different category altogether, but useful as it hopefully keeps my ivies in check - Ivy Broomrape, Orobanche hederae, parasitic on ivy roots.
Anne, North Yorkshire, England |
Anthony Darby (Adarby)
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My Orobanche hederae is just in bud Anne, but I'm afraid it has no effect on the ivy what so ever, or at least that's what it says on the tin?
Anthony Darby, Dunblane, Perthshire. |
Lesley Isabel Cox (Lcox)
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Almost a small hint of spring in the air today. No frost, light warm breeze and a clear, blue sky. First spring crocuses showing colour as are the reticulate irises. And both Iris graeberiana and I rosenbachiana have bud growth evident, as very fat noses poking through their pot surfaces. If true, of course. Both are from seed, and will bloom for the first time. Better warm up the camera again.
Lesley Cox, Lower South Island, New Zealand |
Margaret Young (Myoung)
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John, when it comes to matters concerning the EU, nothing would surprise me but in this case I was just making a unilateral declaration of dayness!!On really busy pages we may change after a week... who knows... the excitement of anticipation should lighten our lives, I hope!
We grow that Thalictrum on our highest raised bed, to be able to look it in the eye. It is such a pretty thing. Good to be able to keep dainty things more out of the mud at times, too!
Not much mud about here, meantime, though,it is really summer!
M
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Paul Tyerman (Tyerman)
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Lesley,
Well they Aussie cricket team HAVE been fairly dominant. I was only being honest!!! *grin*
John.... I adore the Primula viallii but it is one that never returns for me. Still haven't worked out what I am doing wrong but I will persist in trying whenever I can find it for sale. I just love the flowers!! As you say, very orchid like.
Paul T. Canberra, Australia. |
Göte K. A. Svanholm (Gote)
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RE last page Corydalis flexuosa.
I cannot grow it either. The reson seems to be that it has the "mediterrean" habit of pushing up leaves in the autumn which it intends to keep until spring. My climate kills them.
I can grow C elata with no difficulty. It is very similar.
C. mulinensis which has smaller flowers and a lighter colour seeds itself as a "better weed". I cannot promise seed but anybody wanting one (inside the EU) can have a seedling (as long as they last).
Thalictrum kiusianum is perfectly hardy here in mid-Sweden surprising since it comes from Kyushu which has a very mild climate.
No pictures today. I am in a hurry. 4 grandchildren around.
Have a nice summer!
Göte
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Diane Clement (Dianec)
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Here's my contribution: Campanula zoysii Lismore Ice a little beauty selected by Brian Burrow some years ago. Not the easiest to keep going so I was really pleased to get it to this size.
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John Forrest (Jof)
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Diane
Lovely picture of C. Lismore Ice. Why is it that such beautiful things have so many enemies? If the aphids don't get it and the slugs are kept at bay it sometimes just loses the will to live. Perhaps we wouldn't cherish the things that come too easily.
John Forrest, Blackpool, North West England, UK |
Lesley Isabel Cox (Lcox)
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Such a lovely campanula Diane. I'm sure you pushed those icing flowers through a piping bag. Well done. We don't have that lovely pale form here but deeper blues are around. As John says (more or less) - if the aphids don't, the slugs will!
Paul, haven't you heard the saying "be tactful rather than truthful?"
I have just sown 3 pots of Primula vialii so too late to send you some but will do, next season. I loved John's photos too. It does well here but then, we have the right climate.
Lesley Cox, Lower South Island, New Zealand |
Heather Smith (Peridot44)
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Nothing special and not sure if this is the place. However, The Lilium is L davidii and I only got the bulb this spring and potted it. Now it is well up and will open its flowers very soon. But, before the flowers have even opened bulbils are forming on the stem. Is this normal every year? occasionally? frequently? I wasn't aware it was a bulbiferous type.
The second lily is (I think) an asiatic type. I got it as a stem bulbil from a neighbour who has no idea which it is (he didn't plant it, a previous owner did). Does anyone know, please?
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John Forrest (Jof)
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Hi Heather
I'm no Lily expert but did a Google to see if I could find anything about L.davidii. Most of the pics were of the flowers but the part of the stem showing didn't look like yours,with much finer whorls of leaves. www.the-genus-lilium had notes about it in some detail but there was no mention of bulbils. Have a Google yourself and ask yourself 'was the source that you obtained it from reliable'?
John Forrest, Blackpool, North West England, UK |
John Forrest (Jof)
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On a totally different matter here are some pics of this weeks bloomers(oooh Mrs!!!)
When I got the seed of Nothoscordum neriniiflorum I grew it in complete isolation umtil it flowered. The reason was an unhappy experience from the seed exchange of a wrongly named and viciously invasive plant with loads of bulbils. I am still pulling out the offspring from my bulbframe after 6 years. But this is lovely and well mannered.
Nothoscordum neriniiflorum
Albuca shawii is not supposed to be 100% hardy but came through last winter with no protection.
Zigadenus elegans is getting taller each year and presently about 60cm but I think the flowers are exquisite with glistening nectaries.
John Forrest, Blackpool, North West England, UK |
Heather Smith (Peridot44)
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Ah, you think it's not L davidii at all? This bulb came from RarePlants.co.uk, which I thought was reliable. Other bulbs are great (Dactylorhiza sambuccini red & yellow, both came up and flowered correct colours and all). I'll wait until the flowers are fully out and post again.
Thanks
Heather |
Heather Smith (Peridot44)
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Hi John,
Have a look at this page on the web. It does mention bulbils on L davidii but thinks the stem needs to be layered to induce them, or the flowers removed before flowering. Mine, of course, is freely producing the bulbils and they're getting bigger by the day. Can't wait for the flowers to open now. I expect it will need a lot of feeding (whatever it is) to produce all the bulbils and store up enough energy for next year. I'll plant up a lot of the bulbils and see other AGS members get some. I'm willing to send some to SRGC too if someone wants them. Well we'll see what the flowers look like.
Cheers
Heather
http://www.ibiblio.org/pfaf/cgi-bin/arr_html?Liliu m+davidii&CAN=LATIND |
John Forrest (Jof)
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Hi Heather
It does mention bulbils and perhaps yours has produced them more readily than it suggests due to something that has happened during growth. It will be interesting to see if all the characteristics are correct when it flowers.The source is certainly a reliable one so I'm sure it is L davidii.
John Forrest, Blackpool, North West England, UK |
Ian Christie (Ichristie)
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Hi all, here are a few pics from the garden this week, thankfully we have had a little rain, it does not seem long since I was moaning about monsoon?.Lilium duchartrei, Lilium parvum, Primula florindea red, Allium sikkimensis a recent collection from China.
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Carol Shaw (Carol)
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Ian, by now you must have learnt that the weather is either to hot or to cold; to wet or to dry, to windy or not windy enough! Have been being lazy on the pix front - might, just might!  take some over weekend.
Carol Shaw, Forres, Scotland |
Anthony Darby (Adarby)
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Aarrrggghh! One of my pet hates: pleeeease - too hot etc etc.
Anthony Darby, Dunblane, Perthshire. |
Lesley Isabel Cox (Lcox)
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A great little book I have is called "Lilies in their Homes" by A.C. Maxwell (Collins, 1953). This says that Lilium davidii produces bulbils on its underground stems. Otherwise, it seems to be similar to what I know as Tiger lilies but have never been sure of their name.
Lesley Cox, Lower South Island, New Zealand |
Lesley Isabel Cox (Lcox)
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Don't be a pedant, Anthony. Haven't you heard of a slip of the finger? or 2? or 3? ....
Lesley Cox, Lower South Island, New Zealand |
Carol Shaw (Carol)
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Thanks Lesley I was half asleep when I typed that last night.
Carol Shaw, Forres, Scotland |
Anthony Darby (Adarby)
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100 lines on my desk Monday morning Carol
Anthony Darby, Dunblane, Perthshire. |
Carol Shaw (Carol)
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Yes sir, sorry sir, I will do better sir 
Carol Shaw, Forres, Scotland |
Anthony Darby (Adarby)
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Anthony Darby, Dunblane, Perthshire. |
John Forrest (Jof)
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Maggi
I knew no good would come of meddling with the calendar like this. Little did you realise the changes would affect the cosmos. Look what has popped up in my garden.
Leucojum AUTUMNALE
John Forrest, Blackpool, North West England, UK |
Lesley Isabel Cox (Lcox)
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So when did you expect mid July to be John? Just those few hours of July 16th?
I had a note from some anonymous mail administrator who told me that the note I had sent to you earlier (July 14th, obviously before MID July), had been returned, undeliverable. It was just an acknowledgment of your no-seed-from-the-Epimedium email, so not wildly important. I wanted to thank you for trying and added the comment that I often find that as soon as I promise something to someone, it promptly dies. C'est la vie - ou mort!
Lesley Cox, Lower South Island, New Zealand |
Göte K. A. Svanholm (Gote)
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Re Lilium davidii,
This looks definitely like Lilium lancifolium (=L. tigrinum)
I have grown that one (no big feat) for some fifty years. I think at the photo is a perfect match.
I enclose a picture of what it will look like a little later.
Most of those we grow are triploids and thus sterile. You may have got a new import from China under the wrong name. If so it might be diploid and fertile.
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Well, John, it seems I may have precipitated something of a rush to flower.... our Cyclamen purpurascens are flowering... they only stoppped a few weeks ago!
 We all know the theory of the flutter of a butterfly's wings affecting weather across the other side of the world... see what can happen when a chubby gardener flexes her e-muscles!! Scary, ain't it?
I am sorry that so many flowers are lasting for a shorter time than usual this year... dactylorhizas, for instance. Also rhodohypoxis are fading quicker than usual. Must be the fact that we are actually getting some sun and heat for a change! I'm not taking the blame for ALL of this! Ian and I were admiring the water lilies today.... not normally in flower until August.. we were just about to ascribe this to the better weather when Ian remembered that our neighbours had recently cut down a scruffy fruit tree and so our shady pond is getting much more sun all of a sudden!! I had quite forgotten that.. amazing how quickly one adjusts to changes in the surroundings! |
Heather Smith (Peridot44)
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Hi Gote,
Fascinating thought. I'll take pics when the flowers open and post them. At the moment they are still tight shut. Whether L davidii or L lancifolium (I have neither), I will be satisfied. However, if it is NOT davidii I will be seeking an explanation from Rare Plants as to the misnaming. At the moment the lily is in a pot but I would like to plant it out later on, or next spring.
Thanks for your interest.
Cheers
Heather |
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Gote hi, had a look at Lilium lancifolium and found a picture on one site in which the lily has bulbils identical to the bulbils on mine. The leaves are similar except that those on my plant seem to be longer. Does your L lancifolium produce bulbils frequently? Have you seen bulbils frequently during the 50 years? It appears to have them in the photo you posted.
Cheers
Heather
http://www.ibiblio.org/herbmed/pictures/p08/pages/ lilium-lancifolium.htm |
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Maggi Things have also been going over more quickly here but my water lily is showing no signs of flowers or much leaf for that matter. Looking at the bulb log I was envious of your Tropaeolum which just about manages one or two flowers on stems that grow along the ground. Trust me to get the acrophobic form.
There are still some flowers to show
Roscoea alpina is a little seeder and turns up all around the mature ones but can easily be given the old heave ho.
R.auriculata Beesiana is much more reserved,in factis more reliable in apot than planted out.
R.auriculata is just the same only purple.
I know that they are in the Ginger family and wonder if they are edible. I've sniffed the roots but I can't detect a smell.
John Forrest, Blackpool, North West England, UK |
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Howard, is your beautiful butterfly REALLY a pest? I assume it would be the caterpillars but if a pest, it's one I'd be happy to live with.
Which reminds me....Anthony, a while back you asked about pupae of the Red Admiral butterfly. Why? I don't think it's an NZ native. Most of our native butterflys are small and either blue or bronze and inhabit the high country. We do have Red Admirals though. In fact I keep a patch of stinging nettle in order to encourage both red and yellow admirals. That sounds as if I have to work at keeing a patch. Fat chance. They are there and everywhere whether I want them or not. I've not actually seen either the pupae or the caterpillars to recognize them but will keep a look out. Do you really want pupae sent? Our MAF would throw a fit! Later I'll try to post pics of the glorious Monarch butterfly. Much bigger that the other two above and the chrysalis is a beautiful vessel of jade, delicately etched with pure gold.
Lesley Cox, Lower South Island, New Zealand |
Howard Clase (Hclase)
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Sorry Maggie, as I said we are behind the times over here. I'll repost here and maybe you can delete the other one.
We've been tied up with the NARGS AGM here for the last few weeks, so I haven't had time to take many pics or post anything. It's over now and seemed to go well - at least one participant reads these pages. Some wonderful talks and slides, especially Finn Haugli's from Tromso - we must drive up there next time we visit Leila's relations in Finland. The weather was near perfect: cool and dry for the field trips and a real downpour on Saturday night to freshen up the gardens for the visits. We are still weeks behind the UK of course, late lilacs still blooming, broad beans just coming into flower and the runners haven't even needed poles yet. Here's a picture of one of our laburnums (L. alpinum) taken on 13th, as you can see we have all sorts of insect pests.
Anthony Darby wins the prize for correctly identifying it as a Tiger Swallowtail - fairly common here in mid summer, we also have an even better darker one - Short-tailed. This one was settling down for the night on the laburnum and I took a few shots then, but it was too dark and too windy. I was surprised to see it still there 13 hours later when I took this one, but it was a dull morning. (Their larvae feed on the wild cherry.) No Lesley, it's not really a pest, just my wee joke! We also have Red Admirals and Mourning Cloaks (Camberwell Beauty) fairly commonly.
Issue 115 of The Rock Garden was in our mailbox this evening. Superb as always. I found the Whiteface Mountain article particularly interesting since one of our jobs during the AGM was to take bus-loads of participants to look at the flora of the Hawke Hills, the highest point around here - all of 250 m above sea level and a 20 minute walk up from the trans-Canada Highway. Most of the plants in Sandy's article are there too, plus Diapensia and Loiseluria. We actually found 6 species of club-moss including the one he saw. The main thing that astounds botanists there is the mixture of plants from all sorts of habitats growing together - woodlanders and bog plants as well as those you'd expect to see on an exposed hilltop. Probably due to the fact that it's usually foggy and they don't get much sun.
Howard Clase, St John's, Newfoundland. (Where it's 3.5 hours earlier than the time given above!) |
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Thanks for the re-post , Howard. We'll just leave the other, no harm done. Glad to hear your AGM "do" went well.. you will all have been very busy but it is good to welcome visitors.... I am sure they all had a great time. One of these days..... she said, more in hope than expectation!!
In Aberdeen, the ground around the laburnum is deep with fallen blossom.Very few butterflies around as yet this year. Have only seen one or two. Good year for bumble bees , though. |
Göte K. A. Svanholm (Gote)
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In have never seel L. lancifolium without black bulbils. L. bulbiferum v bulbiferum has brown.
Short messa ge. I am in a hurry
Göte |
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Hi Howard,
I am the one who introduced myself to you at the NARGS conference, and I have been enjoying yours as well as everybody's posts on this forum. So much to learn! I thoroughly enjoyed the visit to your region, and thanks for all your hard work in making it happen. You all did a great job.
I've got some photos from the field trips in Newfoundland which I would like to post, as soon as I can remember how to resize them...now that I'm back in hot and VERY muggy New York, I'm amazed that I anyone is able to grow alpines at all in this weather!
Gelene
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Beautiful butterfly pic Howard. Do please post some more when you can, especially the ones we never see in Britain.
On the theme of edible plants(Last posting Roscoeas)I had forgotten the name of an Oxalis I photographed and when I looked it up in the good old AGS Encylopaedia found that O. deppei has an edible 'bulb'. Has anybody tried it? I remember staying in a rifugio in the Italian Alps and had mixed feelings about the 'salad' that had been garnered from the surrounding slopes.
Here is the Oxalis deppei 'Iron Cross' named for the markings on the leaf.
John Forrest, Blackpool, North West England, UK |
Anthony Darby (Adarby)
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Hi Lesley
The New Zealand Red Admiral butterfly, formally known as Vanessa gonerilla, is now known as Bassaris gonerilla as it is so distinctive. It is only found in NZ and its larvae feed on nettle tree leaves.
Anthony Darby, Dunblane, Perthshire. |
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Ah, the plot thickens. So we have a different Red Admiral from yours? I don't have THAT nettle (presumably Urtica ferox) and don't want it. It grows to around 2 metres and has a sting so bad that there are at least 3 recorded incidences of children dying, after close encounters. There is some though, gowing on a farm not far away and I may be able to go searching later in the year. No promises. The "ordinary" nettle is bad enough. If Basseris gonerilla is a native species, it would be highly illegal to send pupae - or anything - out of the country.
Lesley Cox, Lower South Island, New Zealand |
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Heather,
Lilium lancifolium always sets prolific bulbils. It can easily become a weed as these bulbils grow readily. If you paid a fortune for Lilium davidii and only got lancifolium I would definitely be kicking up a stink about it, but that is assuming that lancifolium is as common over there as it is here in Aus of course. It is one of those old fashioned plants that are found in "your grandmother's" garden. I love them as they flower SO well and are so wonderfully tall with so many flowers, but the production of bulbils can be a problem as they start coming up through the garden around the original plants.
The bulbs of lancifolium can get to rather large..... I have definitely seen bulbs of them well over 6 inches wide. The plants can get above 2m tall and have quite a lot of flowers (I don't have a figure..... I know I've had more than 20 flowers on stems without giving them any special care or fertiliser).
So they are impressive flowers but definitely not the delicacy of what I have as L. davidii (IOf correctly names... and it doesn't produce bulbils by the way) anyway. As I said above though, they may not be common for you and therefore may be something a bit more special. So often things that are common here in Aus aren't common overseas, and vice versa of course. Either way I would have expected (perhaps naively *grin*) that a specialist such as Rare Plants should know the difference and be supplying correctly named plants?
Good luck with sorting out the proper ID.
John.... Love those Roscoeas!! Beautiful. And Howard's butterfly is a beauty too!! Great pics everyone!
Paul T. Canberra, Australia. |
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Here's a lily that fills the evening garden with scent.
L majoense from China has varied amounts of colour in the throat from merely speckled to almost totally purple-maroon.
You'll find it under L primulinum var ochraceum but it may yet get its own cultivar name.
Only trouble is like nepalense it hangs its head so you have to prop it up to see it. You can smell it from 20 yards though.
I had it in such deep shade that I could barely get a photograph last year so I've lifted a couple and they'e done well in pots, about 45" high.
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John I agree here is my Nepalense which seems to have more red this year . I had to photograph this facing to the sky
The following is Primula Wollastoni it's having another flush
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Hi Lesley, Mark was at the AGS Ulster Group Garden Visit today and I am posting a few photos of Mark and the garden. The garden is that of an AGS member in Ballymoney, Co Antrim and we had great weather. The garden is one of those which you can go round several times and see more interesting plants each time. Mark says he has 'retired' from posting but maybe he can be persuaded back. This pic of Mark (or one very like it) will be on his website and the copyright will be his, not mine.
Mark
Mark photographing an Eryngium
Mark and a double Campanula
Lilium lancefolium
Does anyone know the name of this orangy Evening Primrose?
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John H.
That Lilium is just stunning. The markings are gorgeous. Wow!! Never seen anything quite like that before.
Love those other pics from Heather and Ian C. too. Thanks all.
Paul T. Canberra, Australia. |
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Heather, I have two evening primroses which are very similar. One is Apricot Delight and the other Sunset Boulevarde. |
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Thanks Marjorie
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What a good photo of Mark! I hope he will reconsider his "retirement" and make a fabulous comeback soon. Is that Dorothy B's garden, Heather? She is an SRGC member, too, and much missed from her earlier visits to the SRGC Discussion weekends, in the Irish Gang with the late and much missed Maisie Michael. Ah, those were the days! I would love to see such a gang of your Irish SRGC?AGS members come across again to join the discussion weekends... the more the merrier!! I believe the retiring Mark is coming over in October....at least, he's better be!! |
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John
That is one of the most beautiful Lilies I have seen. L. nepalense I also like but have planted it(or nearer to the point given it a decent burial) several times. Is there a secret?
I loved the Tiger Swallowtail posted earlier and found our most lovely Peacock on the Verbena bonariense which draws more attention than the Buddleia next to it. There are many fewer butterflies around this year. Has anybody else found this?
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Hi Margaret,
Yes that's Dorothy's new garden and it's looking better than ever. I well remember Maisie Michael and I loved her garden. Such a kind and gerenous person!! Sad when these people and their gardens pass away. I would love to come to the Discussion Weekend - it's the getting there that's the problem. I go to the AGS Dublin Group's Termonfeckin Weekend every year; wouldn't miss it.
Great butterfly pic, John, I see all too few these years (hardly any this year yet). Only seen one Burnet Moth so far, and no Forrester Moths. Perhaps later in the year I'll see more.
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I would like to share this lovely garden with you. It is a Container Garden and is the work of the owners of a set of four flats. Between them they have produced a stunning garden almost entirely of potted plants with a backdrop of wild-growing fuchsias above a small stream. The garden is called Brooklands, in Whitehead, Co Antrim and is the work of Anna Russel, Jennifer Logan, Bernard & Sally Havern and Bill & Iris King. They have kindly allowed me to post these pics of their (most successful) efforts.
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So busy yesterday with other things and distractions that I didn't get a chance to look at the Forum at all so as a consequence, I find a veritable feast of posts and pics this morning! That lily John! I'm absolutely thrilled to see it because the seed you sent to me some months ago all germinated - every one - and now I see what a stunning thing I can look forward to. I sent some of the seed to OZ - you don't mind? - where a good friend has a collection of species but didn't know yours, above.
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Ian, is your Lilium nepalense always that LIGHT red or is at just a matter of the light behind it? Mine is a very dark, mahogany shade.
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Thanks Heather for the pics of Mark and the others too. Give Mark a good poke in the ribs and stop the rubbish about retiring. No-one should retire from anything, at his age (except work maybe. I should be so lucky!)
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And John, I love your peocock butterfly. It's one I've always regretted was not introduced by the early settlers. They did bring quite a number including, of course, the cabbage white. I'd love to get some pupae from someone but MAF and ERMA say "NO NO NO!!!"
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Re Lancifolium,
I have little more time today so if anyone is interested:
L.l. has been grown for food and presumably flowers in China and Japan for a very long time. For this reason it is difficult to know where it grows originally wild since it, as Paul writes, spreads easily from the bulbils.
Thunberg got a specimen when visiting Japan in the late 18th century. He was not allowed into the country and the specimen did not have a flower so his description of the flower is sligtly wrong. For this reason it was believed that his L.l was a vaiant of L. speciosum. In 1805 (I believe) Ker-Gawler described the lily again as L. tigrinum and it has been known as the "Tiger Lily" for a very long time. It is fairly recently that someone looked at Thunberg's herbarium and found out that lancifolium is the correct name. There has been quite a discussion as to whether we should "bend the rules" and retain the later name since this is so massively entrenched.
As can be expected from a plant that has been grown in gardens for many centuries it is quite easy. It is a plant for the herbaceous border.
Also in Sweden it is a "Cottage lily" grown by great-grandmothers.
There is a yellow variant, and a double variant. Most of those we grow are triploid and sterile. The wild one is of course diploid.
It can carry virus without showing any symptoms at all.
Recently there has been an influx of (pertly wrongly named)new material from China and hopefully some of this may be diploid. I received one under the name L. callosum last fall.
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Lesley
The light will have some affect but last year the colouring was different with the centre being a darker red mahagony shade and with more of the greeny white visible. There were 2 flowers and both came up the smae. Perhaps it is more fashion conscious this year
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Lesley,
That Lilium nepalense is just gorgeous!! Definitely darker than mine used to be.... well at least from memory. Unfortunately mine had the tip munched upon by a snail or some other miscellaneous pest when it was about an inch tall. It did not surface at all last year and I unfortunately think it has gone. Mine was never happy enough to set the number of flowers yours has either.
How tall does your grow? Did you find that it tended to send up it's shoot some way away from the bulb as it is reputed to so so easily? Mine was planted beside an Acer 'Inabi Shidare' and the actual shoot appeared on the other side of the Acer, about 2 feet from the actual bulb. I was watching it carefully and was so pleased when I found the shoot appearing, even if it was 2 feet from the place I planted the bulb. You probably heard the crying all the way over there in NZ when I found the shoot munched. LOL
I have to ask my eternal question of you (or so it seems)..... does that set seed? I think I should perhaps just move to NZ and find a place somewhere near you so I can just come and scab plants off you in person all the time, instead of cadging seed of them here! *grin* You DO have some rather desirable things in your garden! LOL
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A lot of things have been flowering so here are a few for today
Anemone altaica at about 30cm has a nice reverse to the petals
Anemone sylvestris has a largeish flower for its height of about15cm and is shining white against the dark background of the leafy soil.
Tulbaghia violacea needs a sunny welldrained border to survive the winter here and I keep a pot full in an unheated frame and put it on the patio where it flowers for a long period.
The variagated leaf form is more striking
You may notice the topiary Box teapot which I grew from a cutting and has taken about 10 years to completion. no wonder they are so expensive to buy.
A detail of T v variagata
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Lesley I have looked through my old photos I was sure that I took one of Nepalense last year but the filing system is haphazard - too many photos. From recollection the centre was not only darker the dark area was smaller than this year. By the way unlike your lovely plant mine seems to have a definite green tinge to the cream colour which I quite like. Would be greatful to hear of any other forum usres experience on this one
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Paul and Ian in particlar. I have to confess that my poor Lilium nepalense was, at the time when I took the photo (film), confined to a 6" pot and had been there for nearly three years. To photograph it, I had to put it on top of a stepladder and lie on my back on the gravel driveway, to see it from underneath. As soon as it died down I planted it in a coolish spot with meconopsis and such, and it flowered nicely last summer and yes, there were stray thin shoots coming up around it at a distance of up to a metre, one right in the middle of the Rhododendron `Yaku Fairy,' mentioned elsewhere. It has not set seed but on the day it was given to me, the donor also gave me an immature (fully formed but still green) seed pod. I have quite a few seedlings from this but not yet flowering size. In the pot it grew to about 60cms but was taller in the garden back in summer and a friend who grows it on Banks Peninsula in woodland conditions, says hers grows to about 1.6 metres. Mine is always quite a bright green in the bud and of green background when fully out. It just doesn't show too well in the photo. It came to me as part "payment" for a talk I did a few years ago. Large petrol voucher, superb chocolate cake and a pot with nothing visible, but the lily bulb nestled inside, the pod in an envelope. Wish all talks were as productive!
Lesley Cox, Lower South Island, New Zealand |
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The best clump of nepalense (v. robustum from memory) I've seen locally was up at the Gillanders, in one of their display beds. About two dozen stems, half of them in bloom, planted in a raised bed of rather gritty soil in amongst the roots of an Acer and some other smaller bulbs.
Particularly interesting because the clump was so well-behaved - a nice tight outline with none of the running about hither and yon that nepalense is famed for; so the old advice to grow it in a rather lean and gritty mix seems to work. But so does an azalea pot, without the worry that you've unleashed something which could become embarassingly 'weedy' in a year or two.
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But Rob, I WANT mine to run about - the further and faster the better. Marcus Harvey sent me some seed a couple of years ago of a variety of nepalense. Can't remember the name but it wasn't v. robustum though. But it didn't germinate so I'll never know what it was like, or its habit.
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Running is not necessarily a good idea when you're growing a lot of lilies - I'm too easily confused already; I know of someone locally who took an Arisaema away from Essie's only to find it had a little nepali stowaway aboard.
Your seed could have been v. kuomense or the kuomense x robustum cross which knock about down here. Both 'run' terribly well and of course the kuomense is particularly dark in the throat as Paul will know.
Personally I find the flower pose of the cross rather awkward, but that may just be my specimens. I tried sibbing them last year with the aim of producing something more graceful but had no luck. Next time, on the assumption that they are a single clone, I just may try spitting on the pollen, which apparently can reduce incompatibility in orchids and will at least let them know what I think of plants that won't cooperate. Should I get seed I'll think of you.
I'm back out into the rain now that I've found out the genealogy of the cross I'm lifting from the polybox...
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Funny now you mention Nepalense running up to one metre. I have some young lilly plants almost 2 metres away that I cannot identify as yet. Perhaps it might get in the Guinness Book of records. We will have to wait and see
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A few Campanulas today. All the supermarkets sell potfsfull of double Campanulas but I have found them difficult to keep from one year to the next on the rock garden. I'm not sure whether they are unreliably hardy. I have 2 forms which I have got to survive by planting beneath a mat of Phlox which offers protection and then when the Phlox is over the Campanulas begin to grow through.
C.x haylodgensis Elizabeth Oliver
C.x haylodgensis Marion Fisher is the white form
This year I have found what I assume to be a hybrid of C. haylodgensis but with what I'm not sure. It is only semi double but has flowers about twice the width. The only other Campanulas nearby flowering at the same time are C. nitida, C.carpatica and an unknown sp which is about 30cm(less likely are the herbaceous perrenials).
A friend of mine, Keith McMath had a rather fine hybrid appear in his plunge. He suspects that it is a cross between C. hercogovinensis and C.excisa and has named it after his daughter Polly Henderson.
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That was it Rob, Lilium nepalense var. kuomense. I wondered at the time, if that was a correct name. Couldn't get from my mind, Iris kumaonensis (or kemaonensis - I have it under both spellings).
I get your point about the running as a problem when one has lots of lilies. I don't, as yet, but am still looking. An Australian friend recently sent me seed of L. auratum x speciosum from Max Wada in Japan. I accused him of being miserly - he sent a mere 500 or so seeds! Apparently these will grow to well over 2 metres so I was advised to invest in a ladder.
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Lesley,
The kuomense is a lovely form - almost as heavily coloured as L. majoense but sadly without the delicacy and narrowness of that one's throat. I shall try to remember to post a picture of it in season.
Like you I don't understand why it isn't spelt more like kumaonense - presumably whoever named it took Ralph Waldo Emerson's quote about consistency to heart.
Only 500 hundred seeds? Reminds me of an overheard conversation a few months back where someone said growing lillies successfully was a numbers game. How can you do anything with so few.
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Hi everyone.
Here are three gesneriads that are still in flower
Mitraria coccinea. We have had this outside unprotected for many years. It can be a straggly shrub that grows well but normally we get few or no flowers. This year for some reason it is flowering well. The flowers are about 3 cm long. Sorry no complete plant pic as I have to use my slide library for postings.
Mitraria coccinea
A new Brigandra. I made this cross about 3 years ago and got 9 seedlings which are quite variable. One survived in the cold frame last winter and is flowering now while the rest which are kept in a frost free greenhous flowered in early June. The is of one of the best with relatively strong stems and a good flower colour. Others are still being assessed.
Briggsia speciosa x Opithandra primuloides = X Brigandra
Briggsia speciosa x Opithandra primuloides c/u = X Brigandra
Finally a Briggsia hybrid- Briggsia aurantiaca x B. speciosa. Some from the 40 or so seedlings have been outside for 3 years unprotected and have remained undamaged. One is still in flower. John posted a picture a few weeks ago, here is a picture of an indoor grown specimen from my slide library.
Briggsia speciosa x B. aurantiaca c/u
Briggsia speciosa x B. aurantiaca
John for information, pictures of mine which look as though they grew outside are just made to look that way. Many are grown indoors and just taken out to photograph.
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These are lovely Brian. I especially like that Briggsia hybrid at the end. Very glamourous but droopy. Elizabeth Taylor after a hard day's night!
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It is wonderful to see the spring bulbs in flower in the Southern Hemisphere (Thank you for the wonderful picture from all) and at the same time flowering in my garden the first Autumn Colchicum during a temperature of 36°C.. Unfortunately I do not know the ID.
Colchicum sp.
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Nice pictures Brian. My Mitraria is still behaving as per usual and showing 3 or 4 flowers and lots of straggly growth but partly my fault in planting it in a poor position. The plants I had from you are doing well apart from the Ramcaea, which has lost all its leaves. There are some tiny buds of leaves visible with a hand lens, which I hope will start to grow. I have put the pot in an unheated propagator to give higher humidity and have tried misting daily.Hopefully this will kickstart it into growth.
Here are a few blue things taken in the last few days.
Convolvulus mauritanicus has made a home in the scree border that is on the south side of the alpine house and which gets all the run off rain. It remains compact and flowers for a very long time.
Platycodon grandiflorum Apoyama is much less demanding and grows as well on the rock garden as in the leafy soil of a Rhododendron bed. I love the way its bud forms a large balloon, which is the reason for its common name ‘Balloon Flower’
Adenophera tashinoi is much like a Campanula but I have struggled to grow it well. The picture is after 2 years growth in a pot and I have just planted it in a soil border to give it a richer diet. The AGS Encyclopaedia tells us that it is from Fukue Island Kyushu Japan and Quelpaert Island Korea but doesn’t indicate the type of habitat. Have any of you grown it and can you give me any tips about pleasing it?
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I don't grow this particular Adenophora but overall, my experience of the genus is that while campanulas like a sunny, open place, adenophoras prefer cool, moist conditions.
Lesley Cox, Lower South Island, New Zealand |
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The last day of July and we have a few new flowers,never thought I would rave about a Lupin but here is Lupinus grayi foliage and flower grown in pots at the moment but supposed to be hardy we will see? also a fine Gentian septemfida hybrid which is fantastic at the moment. Note in picture two the bug which I hope has pollinated the flowers.
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A beautiful lupin indeed Ian, especially the silky foliage. I thought the bug had flown away somewhere between thee and me but then noticed him lurking on pic 2 of the gentian (pic 4).
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Sorry I'm a bit late posting this, but it is a July picture, 21st in fact, when I noticed the first sign of Fall (Autumn) - Cyclamen purpurascens in bud already - and last year's seeds aren't ripe yet. I have old and new leaves, seed pods and flowers all on the same plants. Worrying signs of weevil damage though. This is the only Cyclamen species that really does OK here (if the weevils will leave it alone). Others only survive outside in protected locations, while purpurascens self seeds out under a balsam fir tree.
Howard Clase, St John's, Newfoundland. (Where it's 3.5 hours earlier than the time given above!) |
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, August 01, 2005 - 9:39 pm: | |
Thanks for the advice Lesley. Can you or others ID this Oenothera?I hate not being able to put a name to plants. It is dwarf like this O. kunthiana but has much narrower leaves and shiny buds.
John Forrest, Blackpool, North West England, UK |
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, August 02, 2005 - 12:08 am: | |
Don't know the yellow one John. Your O. kunthiana looks rather like what we grow as O. speciosa.
To most of us, it's August now!
Lesley Cox, Lower South Island, New Zealand |
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, August 02, 2005 - 8:43 am: | |
Can't help with the oenethera, John. Also I must aplogise for upsetting your internal clock so much with my early move to "mid" July that you are compelled to hang onto the month for as long as possible!!
Lesley, like our other Southies, has the benefit of leaping into time ahead of us, I know, but even here in the UK it IS now August !!I'll open a new page to tempt John with...I hope I haven't done him any lasting damage!! |
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 - 9:29 pm: | |
Just back from La Belle France, so skimmed through the articles. Alas, without scientific names in italics to grab my attention it is just a blurr. Have received pupae of moth spp. from NZ Lesley, so not sure why the red admiral would be illegal? Liked the Tulbaghia violacea (why someone keeps sending Allium senescens montanum seed to the seed exchange EVERY YEAR labelled as T. violacea is a VERY ANNOYING mystery to me!!!! ) Isn't the colchicum montanum Franz?
Anthony Darby, Dunblane, Perthshire. |
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Anthony, Maggi might smack my fingers for going backwards from August, but - If the NZ Red admiral is actually native, not merely introduced (and recently), it will be illegal to send material out of the country, as it is with ANY native animal, of whatever kind. Sometimes people take birds' eggs of the native parrots for instance. They are caught doing so and fined MASSIVE amounts. If the Maori population has its way it will likewise soon be illegal to take or send material of native plants as well. Long story, won't bore you.
Lesley Cox, Lower South Island, New Zealand |
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, September 11, 2005 - 11:43 pm: | |
I posted earlier in this thread about a lily that I was sold to me as L davidii. The general opinion was that it was in fact L longifolia. The plant is in flower now and I am posting pics. It certainly looks like L longifolia. The lower leaves are in a picture early in this thread. Is this L longifolium, please?
Heather |
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Do you mean Lilium lancifolium Heather? L. longifolium should have trumpets of white, sometimes with a brownish wash on the outside 3 petals, Elegant and slim too.
Lesley Cox, Lower South Island, New Zealand |
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, September 12, 2005 - 5:54 pm: | |
Hi Lesley, yes, indeed I do mean L lanceifolium! I chased up the posting with another making the correction but this seems to have got lost.
Cheers
Heather |
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