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Margaret Young (Myoung)
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Posted on Sunday, June 12, 2005 - 7:41 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

LAST PAGE WAS BIG ENOUGH... LET'S OPEN A NEW ONE!
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Hi Ian,(C) thanks for the `Jimmy Bayne' foliage. It looks such a good clump and as I remember the new foliage from the Journal photo, it was quite purple as it emerged.

Re the M. punicea - God forbid that I should argue with either CG-W or CB but for the moment, I'll stick to my guns and go for some natural variation. Of course I stupidly didn't photograph the not-quite-reds so can't prove anything. But in the first place, the not-quite-reds were all identical. If hybrids, one might expect some slight variation among those plants. Secondly, when the parent flowered there was no other meconopsis in flower in my garden or for at least 20 miles around. Thirdly, all my 400 seedlings were the progeny of a single, pure red plant and that one was the only seedling from two seeds received from SRGC 20 months before. So if there WAS any hybridization it must have occurred at least 2 generations previously.

Oh well, when the next batch bloom, I'll have my camera ready.
Lesley Cox, Lower South Island, New Zealand
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Hello all,

A few geranium pics and questions. Two favorites taken today: geranium phaeum samobor and g. nodosum. Sorry Nodosum's so huge - I'm still learning the resizing tricks.

Then one new plant- Mrs. Kendall-Clark. I'm quite happy with her, but the two Brookside plants I bought at the same time, which came highly recommended look, to me, exactly like the Johnson's Blue I already have all over my garden. Did I get the wrong plants, or is Brookside exactly like Johnson's Blue? I'd be embarrassed to admit how much I spent mail-order to buy these plants.

One last geranium item - I'd love to get a nice double(pref. blue or purple) and wonder if anyone out there grows one they like.

Happy Sunday (or very early Monday)

Anne-Marie





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Posted on Monday, June 13, 2005 - 10:14 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Wonderful posts everyone. Not been up here for the last few days and so much to see. Those Roscoeas are lovely, and the various Meconopsis!! Beautiful everyone!!

Ian M.... what is the red flower in the midst of your recent posting? Trying to work out whether it is a Geum or what? Really not sure at all.

Anne-Marie..... As far as I know G. 'Brookside' is supposed to have a flower very similar to 'Rozanne' (which I reckon has to be the best blue, at least that I have seen anyway). The flower is much rounder on Rozanne, with a white centre to it. I recently bought 'Brookside' which is very similar in flower, but the plant tends to stand up more instead of sprawling outwards like 'Rozanne' does. The flowers I don't think are quite as large on 'Brookside' but they are definitely well worth having. Your pic definitely looks like 'Johnson's Blue' and assuming mine is correctly named I would be asking for a replacement if I were you. Mark Smyth would likely have a good idea on this.... have you checked his website to see if it is pictured there? He has a great website, wonderful to wander through all sorts of things that are pictured there.
Paul T. Canberra, Australia.
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Hi Paul, it is a variety of Potentilla, I can't remember the name, it is herbaceous and has silvery foliage.
Maggie, I didnae realise that you did get free teas, I've always paid!
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Ian,

Thanks. Fascinating floral structure which was why I asked. Geum was all I could think of but Potentilla definitely looks right. With the silvery foliage as well it sounds quite delightful. If you think of the name could you post it, just so I can be on the look out in case by some fluke it is over here in Aus.

Thanks again.
Paul T. Canberra, Australia.
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I'll see what I can dig up, no pun intended.
The photo is a little blurred, Ill try and take a better photo this week.
The growth is a little leggy at the moment due to me planting the plant on top of some white daffodils, the early foliage has to compete with the daffodil leaves.
I'm intending to move it this year, to try and keep the growth more compact.
The photos that I took yesterday were for a treasure hunt in the garden for the kids.
I went out and took some quick photos and then they had to look at the photos and then find the flowers in the garden.
And under the last flower, the Meconopsis Blue Ice, they found a chocolate sweetie each.
They enjoyed it, learned a wee bit about the plants and it meant I got to take some more photos.
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Paul,

Thanks for the info on Brookside, and Rozanne sounds lovely - I might have to look at that one. I actually only posted pictures of Samobor, nodosum and Mrs. Kendall Clark. I'll put up Brookside and Johnson's Blue on the identification thread.

Anne-Marie, Seattle, WA
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Hi again Lesley, I was not suggesting that you can't have variations it is just that here in Scotland I have only ever had the one plant which I posted recently and thankfully plants have not read any books ( as far as we know ) it would be interesting to see the pictures when the next lot flower but I hope you can get some seed and if you want a swap?, cheers Ian
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'Johnson's Blue', 'Brookside' and 'Rozanne' are all very distinct and dont look like each other. Here they are in the order I mentioned them.




'Johnson's Blue', pratense x himalayense, flowers once in late May and early June.

'Brookside', pratense x clarkei 'Kashmir Purple', has a longer flowering period than 'JB'

'Rozanne', wallichianum 'Buxton's Variety' x ?, flowers from now until October and November depending on when the frosts kills off the stems. It reappears in May with yellow leaves. The flowers are huge at 2.5"/7cm across
Mark, Antrim. Northern Ireland. z8+
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Interesting Mark. I have to wonder what I have as 'Brookside' then as I am fairly sure it had more white than that. Is it a more upright plant, without the sprawling habit of 'Rozanne'? I don't think the flowers on the 'Rozanne' that we have here are 2.5" across... again I wonder what we've ended up with. Whatever it is it still has the best flowers of the blues that I have seen. I do not have a pic of my 'Brookside' so I can't even post one, but I can likely rustle up a 'Rozanne' I think. Not sure that the white is quite as wide in mine, but then again with different climatic conditions and soil it could vary a bit I would imagine?
Paul T. Canberra, Australia.
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Hi again Ian. When they all flowered in Oct/November, both reds and not-quite reds set plenty of seed. I kept them separate until sending some to friends in OZ, then couldn't remember which was which, so threw the lot in together.If I get both shades from the few that will flower this coming spring, I'll certainly send seed of either/both. Cheers

Lesley Cox, Lower South Island, New Zealand
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Mark,

Thanks for the pictures - much clearer than my own of Brookside and Johnson's blue, so I won't post mine. Ironically, it seems to be the second of your pictures - Brookside - that I have all over my yard. When we redid our yard several years ago,a very old lady at a country plant sale gave me bits and pieces of her plants in plastic bags - some of which are quite unusual. I think the blue geraniums came from her. Thanks for help with i.d.

Anne-Marie
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Seeing last weeks forum with John’s pictures of Ramberlea and the Brigsia hybrid prompts me to say a little about how the Ramberlea in particular originated. We have been breeding gesneriads for some years with a view to increasing the range of potentially hardy plants for the UK. A Ramberlea (using Haberlea rhodopensis as one parent) was first described by Halda some years ago but neither plants or photographs have never been seen and the plants seem not to exist any more. One of our projects is to try to repeat these crosses and make the plants available. This is not as easy as it seems as the chromosome numbers of the parents differ. After several years trying and several more waiting for the seedlings to flower Ramberlea x 'Inchgarth' was selected from 9 seedlings. Its name is registered with the Gesneriad Register. It differs from the Halda Ramberlea in using Haberlea ferdinandi-cobergii. The other “Halda crosses” have eluded us so far. Each year only gives a short window for hybridising when the parents are in flower and even less time when viable pollen and fertile flowers coincide. Still we keep trying. 'Inchgarth' produces many side crowns which root well, has large upright flowers and flowers well if kept as a single rosette. The flowers remain open a long time as Ramberlea is sterile. The best of the remaining clones (at present unnamed) also flowers well and has large flowers like Inchgarth, but the stems are rather more lax. Here are some more pictures of larger Ramberleas

Ramberlea X 'Inchgarth'

Ramberlea X 'Inchgarth' close-up

Brian Wilson (Aberdeen Scotland)
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Brian
Keep on with your work and please show us the results(even the ones you reject, which is of interest in itself). Are you managing to grow these planted out,as your lovely pictures suggest?
I'm really pleased with my plants and hope I can keep them going.
John Forrest, Blackpool, North West England, UK
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Epipactis-palustris is a native of moist places of Europe.
It grows without difficulty in my peculiar climate and limy soil.

Epipactis-palustris
Epipactis-palustris
Epipactis-palustris\
Epipactis-palustris
Franz Hadacek, Vienna, Austria
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Here are some pictures of a few plants that are flowering in my garden or in my alpine-house.
They are not so special as above gesneriads.
(They are very interesting perhaps something for the future in a piece of tufa)

Eriogonum ovalifolum in my garden

eriogonum

Rhodohypoxis mixed in a pan

rhodohypoxis

Talinum okanoganense in my alpinehouse

talinum

campanula: I do not know which one it is!

campanula

Arum? this bulb I did get from a friend, he has no name for it, it is hardy with me in Holland

arum close up

Arum? close-up

arum


Henk Westerhof, Barendrecht Holland
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Franz
What super pictures of Epipactis palustris. It grows on the sand dunes near to where I live but is much smaller in the dune type and never grows in clumps such as yours.
John Forrest, Blackpool, North West England, UK
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Franz,

The Epipactis is stunning!! What a display. I am assuming by the look of it it is a ground orchid? I am not familiar with the genus which is why I ask.

Henk,

Your Arum thingy looks like it is Sauromatum venosum (sometimes seen under the old name of S. guttatum). The long spadix always twists about, making it difficult to photograph properly as you no doubt found out yourself when you did it.

It is a fascinating flower which tends to be somewhat stinky, but that depends on how your nose treats it. One on of the gardening lists recently someone was talking about theirs flowering and it being the worst smell they've come across, but mine barely smells when it flowers. And I can definitely smell Dracunculus, Arums etc so it isn't that I can't smell the aroids (which some people apparently are lucky enough to not be able to do! LOL)
Paul T. Canberra, Australia.
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Paul,
Epipactis are ground orchis mainly from the northern temperate zone. There are about 24 species and E. palustris is one of the easiest in the garden culture.

Franz Hadacek, Vienna, Austria
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John,
Only in garden grows E. palustris in such clump. In the native it is very often a single plant.

Franz Hadacek, Vienna, Austria
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The naming of the dwarf sisyrinchiums ( or Sisyrinchia ) is somewhat problematic and numerous illegitimate names abound in the trade. I can be no great help but can only repeat what I have gleaned from the AGS Encyclopedia.

S. graminoides (angustifolius) readily available from garden centres.



S. bellum ( sarmentosa) often sold under the name Blue Skies






S. californicum (brachypus) is the dwarf hardier form from the northern end of its range. Unlike the previous 2 seeds around to the point of nuisance but can easily be pulled out.



S.idahoensis (macounii alba) is a much more prolific seeder and I have to try to remove all seed capsules before they scatter.



The next appears to have some of the blood of the last one but I am not sure what it is but believe that it originated with Margaret & Henry Taylor. It has a nice blue tinge and stripe. I have not found any seedlings of this and it may be sterile.



I got the next from Alan Spenceley as S. atlanticum but he said that he was doubtful of the name and it does not fit the description I have found which says that it has violet blue flowers. It has a yellow centre with a purple ring around and white petals, sometimes with a purple stripe. It is not proved to be very tolerant of winter wet but seeds around the unheated cold frames. Curiously I have seen this plant on Japanese sites as S. atlanticum when doing a Google Image search but cannot read the text.



The last I have grown as S. junceum but is often named as Olsynium junceum. It needs cold frame protection in winter.


John Forrest, Blackpool, North West England, UK
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Franz,

Thanks for the info. I will have to see if I can find them available here, although probably out of my price range I would hazard (but then again, who needs to eat eh? LOL). If they're from temperate climates then that means that they take a certain amount of cold then too do they? Do you know how much? I am never quite sure where "temperate" starts and finishes, and it seems to vary when I have looked it up in the past.... sometimes including temperatures well below freezing and in other references including only down to freezing and not below. Makes it difficult to really know!

John,

Those are some wonderful pics. The first two are sold here I think, or at least something very similar (under names of 'Indigo Stars' and 'Devon Skies' from memory). Those last 2 are lovely as well, both the striping of the last one and the lovely purple and orange centres on the other one. very nice little additions to the garden I think.

Great to see the pics of these.... always nice to know what is around elsewhere. Interesting to know that our blue and purple ones here are likely imports rather than initially seed grown? Well way neither of them seed for me anyway.

Great stuff!!
Paul T. Canberra, Australia.
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Franz

I have Epipactis palustris in 2 forms (not yet in full flower) but not in large clumps like yours. I do have Epipactis gigantea in very large clumps, which unfortunately spread into the roots of my Rhododendrons. I cannot dig them out to transplant and I have to hoe them off. Here are some pictures.






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Yikes! I'm speechless! Well, nearly!! We have never managed to get Epipactis gigantea going here and after seeing Franz' fantastic clumps of E. palustris, I was thinking that it was because our soil is not at all limey, then John F. says his are a weed among his Rhodos!Good grief! And you can't dig them out because of the rhodo roots? Fiddlesticks! A rhodo loves a little gentle root pruning, done in a good cause.... grub me some out, PLEASE!! I love these orchids and am so frustrated when people say they become like a weed in their gardens... not here they don't! I would dearly love to have even a little colony of these beautiful plants. If I had some E. gigantea and even one form of palustris growing healthily I would be a happy rhododendron grower! I'm beginning to realise how Paul feels in Australia with these plants so tantalising. Drool! Drool! Lovely pix, Franz and John of these super flowers, thank you!
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I echo Margaret's sentiments entirely.
John, you have made us all drool...I have tried Epipactis palustris here in East Lancashire and have watched it succumb to the Booker kiss of death....and this in a garden where dactylorhizas self-seed for fun. Hoe them out indeed!!!
Cheers,
Cliff
Leeds AGS National Show tomorrow...hope some of you can make it....'might' take my camera along?
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Cliff, thanks, it's good to know we're not alone in our problems. Beats me why the Dactylorhizas should be so happy here but these Epipactis elude us. Travel safely to the Show... looking forward to the photos already!
Don't think you'll see our dear friend Raymond Muff there, he is still in hospital, I think... but you could pass on our best wishes to him via the Bundys if you see them instead!(and to them,too, of course!) Hardly fair, I know, to want you to be a message boy, as well as roving reporter but, as we've seen with these pesky orchids, life is seldom fair!! Have a great show!
M
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As the Trillium seed will be ready in a few days would those people who requested seed please e-mail me their address privately.
Thank you.
Michael J Campbell,Shannon,Co,Clare.Ireland
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John, about Sisyrinchium angustifolium.
You write they are readily available in gardencenters. i know that on the continent the available plants are mostly seedgrown. So far o.k. but these plants flower only for about several weeks. Looking at your image is your plant sterile or am I wrong? The sterile plant normally starts flowering early June and stops not before september. I grew this plant for about 40 years, but the last ten years I had difficulty to sell them in the trade because the seedgrown plants were cheaper!
The S. bellum and macouni forms are not hardy here because of the wet winters.
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Each garden has well growing plants and plants those absolutely do not grow. And that is good! I think it would be very boring, if all those plants would easy grow that we like. We would not have any dreams more. We can buy many things with money today, but not always well growing plants in our garden.

John, outstanding plants and pictures of the Chattertbox Orchid (E. gigantea).

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I have my Epipactis gigantea confined between rocks near the edge of my pond (which contributes nothing to its growth), so although it is a large clump, it is restricted to where it can sucker.
Anthony Darby, Dunblane, Perthshire.
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Here is a picture of one of my troughs.

Trough

Dianthus

Dianthus

Dwarf Ragged Robin Lychnis flos-cuculi 'Nana' grown from seed.

Ragged Robin
Anthony Darby, Dunblane, Perthshire.
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This is Moraea Alpina growing in a trough less than 3 inches high. Small but beautifully marked


Ian McEnery Sutton Coldfield, West Midlands
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What a difference a day makes... as the song says. Or in my case, a weekend away from home. Then when I turned on the juice yesterday, found some nerd in the North Island had cut Telecom's cables with some machinery and the Internet was down throughout the country, along with cell phones, some landlines and computers generally, in banks, businesses etc. The whole place just about collapsed, so dependant we are nowadays, on IT.

Which is a preliminary to saying what super pics have appeared over the weekend. Love the Epipactis especially, and John, I want to ask whether the Sisyrinchium (Olsynium) junceum is variable as the plants we have here under that name are a good pink. I imagine (but am not sure) that they originated from a Flores and Watson collection, or perhaps JCA.
Lesley Cox, Lower South Island, New Zealand
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Is the Moraea alpina hardy Ian? Looks a dinky wee thing, so I suspect not?
Anthony Darby, Dunblane, Perthshire.
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Posted on Monday, June 20, 2005 - 10:47 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Anthony I had the Moraea from Ian Christie and was advised Alpine House but it was outside in the trough last winter and seems to be growing. So it may be worth a try
Ian McEnery Sutton Coldfield, West Midlands
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Here are some things I'm enjoying on the rock garden at the moment. Calceolaria 'John Innes' is an easy spreader, the aquilegia is a self sown drift of A discolor (I think)
calceolaria and aquilegia
I grew this Dierama as Dierama sp CD&R 192 from one of the exchanges some years ago, and it has proved to be a willing 'volunteer' seeding around. It grows to about 45cm high.
dierama
Clematis chrysocoma came from the ACE expedition seed and has thick textured velvety leaves and white flowers for a long period in the summer. It has woody stems to about 80cm which sprawl, and which I cut back each spring.
clematis chrysocoma
Anne, North Yorkshire, England
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Posted on Tuesday, June 21, 2005 - 10:21 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Margaret
Could it just be dryness in your garden? We get/got (discounting recent climatic changes) about 150cm rain. I'm sure you could succeed in one of your fish boxes and will be happy to send you some 'rhizomes' when they die down.

Luit

I think mine may well be sterile since I have not seen any seed pods on either S.angustfolius or S.bellum.

Lesley

I have grown all my Olsyniums from Watson Flores seed and also have O. juncfolius with smaller pink flowers.
John Forrest, Blackpool, North West England, UK
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John F., thank you kindly! It may well be a dryness problem. Checking on the records kept by our local Group member, John Lupton, who reports for our newsletter, I see that he lists the last few years' rainfall as, total in mm.: 2002 was 1288.40mm (wet for here); 2003 was 632.20mm ;and 2004 was 942.8 mm. Quite a range but generally less rain than you get. I'd like to try them in what passes for our bog garden, that might suit them. There are some folks who have got the epipactis going in the vicinity, perhaps in a damper spot in their gardens. None of us rooting it out as a weed yet, though! I'm told that someone, a whole thirty or so miles south, has copious clumps!

Luit, nothing sterile about any of the sisyrhinchiums we have, bless them!

Anne, love your fat gathering of C. John Innes... like so many yellow hippos having a chat! AGS bulletin has arrived today.... congrats. on your successes with your lovely artwork. Super drawing and watercolours... when do you find the time? Clever soul!
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I didn't see your posting which you must have been doing at the same time as me. What a wonderful host of golden Calceolarias.
John Forrest, Blackpool, North West England, UK
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Wonderful pics all. I've not been up here for a week or so and some wonderful stuff.

Margaret, given that you can ask John to "grub you out a bit" you don't have so much idea of the frustration from here in Australia! LOL I nearly cried over the comment about hoeing them off because they were weedy! If only!!!!! Waaaaaaah!!! (Sob!)

Michael,

I have tried repeatedly to email you at your normal address re the Trillium rivale seed and they all bounce back after 5 days just like they used to. I have also emailed a few days ago to your MSN account to see if you get it there, but I haven't heard back from you. I check my emails at least every few days, even if I am not well enough to get up here to check out the SRGC. I am more concerned that you may be thinking that I am no longer interested in the rivale seed, which is definitely NOT the case. MOST interested, but it seems that your normal email address rejects all my postings. Hopefully you may have got the email to your MSN account?

Anne,

Those Calceolarias are just lovely. What a wonderfully bright mass in the garden. And that looks like a cute little fern in the background too!!?? That Clematis is interesting too as it is a species I haven't come across before and may have to try to find. I like the herbaceous or shrubby varieties. as they are rather nice in the right place. I have Clematis all through my garden so always interested in new varieties! LOL Like I have space for anything more?????
Paul T. Canberra, Australia.
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Paul, the clematis has not so far set seed, much to my frustration. I'll try hand pollinating and if it makes any I'll send you some.
Anne, North Yorkshire, England
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Paul, I apologise, we don't know how lucky we are here, I know. Forgive me!
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Here are another couple of favourites out now: new to me - Linaria aeruginea nevadensis 'Gemstones' comes in this scarlet and a nice burnt orange, ascending to 15cm. I'm hoping it will seed as freely as L. alpina does here.
Linaria Gemstones
An old friend, Aphyllanthes monspeliensis, like a refined Sisyrinchium, powder blue flowers on 20cm needle fine 'leaves'.
Aphyllanthes
And I'm going to sneak in a fern so look away now all you pteridophobes! Asplenium csikii var trogyense, a recently acquired addition to the British native list, which likes to live on castle walls for some reason.
trogy
Anne, North Yorkshire, England
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Thanks Anne for your latest. I love the Linaria, such a nice colour. And I'm delighted to see the Aphyllanthes, one of my favourite things ( rainbows on roses...). It's not often seen here in the south and the books say it's difficult to propagate but I don't find that's so. I just pull a clump apart into small pieces, each with a couple of stringy roots, pot them and Bob's your Aphyllanthes. It may be a matter of timing. I do it after flowering.

And oh yes, the fern is a cutie. I could almost...
Lesley Cox, Lower South Island, New Zealand
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Posted on Thursday, June 23, 2005 - 10:33 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Franz
Here are the 2 forms of Epipactis palustris that I grow.The first is the woodland type which is more slender and grows taller. It has become more easily obtainable in the last 2 years.





Now the type which grows on sand dunes. I used to have a lot of this and it used to grow well in my previous house and I got my first Farrer medal with a large pot full many years ago. I found it more difficult to grow in recent years.This has happened with quite a few different types of plant and it is difficult to ascertain the reason. Is it change in composts or climatic change or a build up of some pathogen? Most vexing!! I have, however, managed to nurse my Epipactis back from 1 stem and have been able plant a bit out.





John Forrest, Blackpool, North West England, UK
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