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Margaret Young (Myoung)
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Hi, Folks, please make your flowering now, April , posts here from 15th April. Splitting the month will make it easier for downloading the page. Just hope everyone finds this |
Gwendolen Mary Black (Gwenb)
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Good thinking Margaret. I'm blowed if I'm paying AOL £29 99 monthly when by exercising a bit of common sense and patience it costs £15 99 for what I need. I reckon they still make enough profit at that. |
Paul Tyerman (Tyerman)
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Maggi,
Great idea! I was actually thinking the same thing when waiting for it to load yesterday (and I have broadband!). Must takes absolutely yonks for dialup, particularly any outlying places where connection speed for dialup are even slower.
So if we want to respond to pics that were already posted in the other half of the thread do we do it here or back in that thread?
Paul T. Canberra, Australia. |
Luc Gilgemyn (Luc)
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Well - I shall have the honour of opening the new thread then with some beauties from the garden.
Sax. vlatava
in my humble opinion one of the best for outside
Draba imbricata
some 10 years old I believe - the size of a football but flowering a bit less profusely than in its younger days...
Clematis marmoraria petriei
I've got this one in a pot - not quite hardy out here I believe.
Joining in on the Erythroniums - a close up of E. Pagoda
Morisia monanthos in a little trough - surprised by some late snow last weekend.
A raised bed coming into life - the white cloud is the ground hugging Iberis candolleana
Close up of Iberis candolleana
And last but not least a close up of the Jeffersona dubia that I posted earlier in April
Have a nice weekend every body.
Luc |
Margaret Young (Myoung)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, April 15, 2005 - 9:58 pm: | |
Paul, it may be confusing to some, but I would suggest posting here, even if referring to a post in the earlier thread. Make reference to the post no. if you like, but I think it'll be easier if we keep going here.
Luc, Thanks for these pix to get us going!
How many of us wish we were able to have been to the Dutch Alpine Conference? It is the Grand Sale at the Utrecht Botanic Gardens tomorrow... Oh to have the chance to see all these plants that will be for sale!! |
Mark Smyth (Mark__n_ireland)
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My Jeffersonia never looks that good.
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Mark Smyth (Mark__n_ireland)
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I'm gonna have to control my activity on here or even stop. I honestly mean it. I'm 33 posts away from hitting 1000.
In the garden today
Phlox (creeping ex Czech Republic) cauloides (so the label say) white
Clematis 'Joe' a single flower and one of many
Erythronium in M. Glynn's garden
which is it cos I want it!!
a lovely tiny unknown plant max. 2cm high with grassy leaves and spreads in to a matt
Can you ID it for Margaret Glynn and I? |
Margaret Young (Myoung)
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Mark, if you stop posting I will have to hurt you! Do not go there!
I think the Erythronium is likely White Beauty.
I know I SHOULD know the name of the wee white flower, I recognise the grassy leaves... but.... I'm getting old, help me, someone! |
Michael J Campbell (M_campbell)
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Michael J Campbell (M_campbell)
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Sorry I forgot to post the name.it is Lewisia Brachycalyx x cotyledon hyb |
Michael J Campbell (M_campbell)
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This is Moraea Aristata |
Michael J Campbell (M_campbell)
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Another Brachycalyx Hyb
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Lesley Isabel Cox (Lcox)
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I'd agree about the Erythronium Maggi, probably `White Beauty.' For the little bulb, Spiloxene rings a vague bell in my head. How does that sound? I can't really see the foliage enough to be sure.
Ian, or Fred or somebody, I have a new enmail address and password which I'd like to register for the Forum but without losing my past posts - if you see what I mean - and having to start all over again. What should I do about it please? |
Mark Smyth (Mark__n_ireland)
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The leaves are too short for Spiloxene. They look like miniature iris leaves or some of the tiny grasses you might find when weeding. I'll go back next week and photograph the whole matt and leaves. They two I did take were out of focus |
Gwendolen Mary Black (Gwenb)
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Mark , Is it one of the tiny Colchicums? |
Margaret Young (Myoung)
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Hello, Michael, welcome to the Forum. Thanks for joining us and giving us these fine photos.The Moraea is stunning, a favourite colour combination of ours. I guess your second Lewisia brachycalx hybrid used one of the brighter cotyledon to get that vivid colour? Are they your own hybrids? Lewisias are one ofthe most rewarding plants to make hybrids with, I think.
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Paul Tyerman (Tyerman)
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Ian (Christie),
Wonderful pics you have been posting. That Primula is a lovely strong colour. The Erythronium japonicum in particular looks amazing. Is that purple the normal colour? I haven't come across that species before which is why I ask. If it is does anyone know a source for seed of this, as I dearly want an Erythronium of that colour (I love purple, in fact my wife and even got married in white and purple! We both love it! LOL).
Also Ian, was there successful seed set on your Eranthis pinnatifidum you posted a pic of previously and if os do you have enough to spare me a couple of seeds? I sent you an email via the email link to the left of your message a while back but I received no response so I do not know whether it arrived or not. I realise you mentioned you were away from the SRGC for a period so it may have just got lost in the mass of email when you got back to the computer.
If anyone else happens to have Eranthus pinnatidus (i.e the white Eranthis) seed that they can spare even a couple of then please let me know and I will arrange to trade or buy them from you if you'd prefer. I dearly want to grow this Eranthis and the only way I am ever going to get it here in Australia is likely by seed (besides which that will guarantee that it is acclimatised to my conditions and grows more successfully).
Thanks in anticipation.
Paul T. Canberra, Australia. |
john forrest (Jof)
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Some good pics above to start off this new section.
Here are a few of mine.
A couple of shrubs for the rock garden.
Forsythia Bronxensis which never grows taller than 60cm.
Prunus tenella Firehill is an absolute favourite of mine, which I first saw in Duncan Lowe’s garden and has been passed around the N. Lancs group. It increases by suckers but I planted mine in a rock pocket to confine it. I cut it back each year, which encourages flowering and keeps it to about 50-60cm.
Next a couple of primulas
P.frondosa
P. Peter Klein
Finally a few odds and ends
Erythronium White Beauty
Dicentra cuccularia
For the rock garden a very compact Iberis pruitii which deserves close inspection.
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Margaret Young (Myoung)
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John, you'd better not let Ian Y hear you including an erythronium as "odds and ends".... you'll give him a heart attack... these plants are the centre of the universe, do you not understand?? Wonderful close-up of the Iberis. I see it's been raining down there with you, too! |
Luit VanDelft (Lvandelft)
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Here are some pictures I made today during an excursion of the Dutch Rock Garden Conference.
Members visiting probably the biggest private collection of Tulips
(more than 2000 different cultivars)
The collector, Mr Cees Breed, explaining about
Cold enough to hurry to the busses?
Mr. Panayoti Kelaides from Denver seems to enjoy it anyhow.
Too cold to smell the Hyacinths on the other side of the canal!
Some wellknown people with Mr. Breed.
Goodbye tulips and off to the next field with almost 3000 different Narcissi.
It was so cold, that the photographer had to leave the company.
So there are no pictures of the next field!
But I could make one more picture:
A winterspecial for Margaret.
Greetings from Holland on April 16th. 2005.
(+ 6 C.!)
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Ian Christie (Ichristie)
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Hi paul, I have noticed seed pods which are still green on Eranthus pinnatifida so hope all will ripen, we are back to winter again with snowfall this morning, will keep you posted. Lewisia double red flowers with some sexy bits for maggie but so far noseed.
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Margaret Young (Myoung)
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Thank you for these pictures, Luit! Especially to let me see that Ian is well! I appreciate this very much! What a pity the weather is so cold, it is just the same here in Scotland (and I think most of England, too)with rain and cold winds. Is this your bicycle I see in the foreground of one of the photos? If so, these fields must be your neighbours'? I believe the man near the cycle is Chris Brickell, another friend! How nice to see so many friends being cold together!!I hope that everyone has enjoyed the Conference. Ian is looking forward to some garden visits tomorrow, I know.I do hope you have not been too much out in the cold, Luit. Perhaps you are enjoying a warm drink at your fireside now! Good Health to you!
Margaret |
Margaret Young (Myoung)
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Ian C, you are thinking of me, too, I'm touched!
If you hadn't told us it is a Lewisia, I think I'd have been thinking Dianthus!
Thankfully no snow here, though it is cold enough.
M |
Mark Smyth (Mark__n_ireland)
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I would love to see the collections especially if it included species Tulipa |
Mark Smyth (Mark__n_ireland)
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teens yesterday and 0 this morning rising to 3 and sitting there all day. 5 by the end of work and doing it's best to snow all day |
Anne Wright (Annsie)
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Flipping freezing here today and no warmer inside as our boiler has packed in so when the sun came out I took the camera for a walk.Here is a view along our main ferny border which also holds many of my anemones and hellebore etc
and a view of my winter beds meant to be peered at from the safety of the living room window when the winds are howling in from the airfield out the back.
one of their inhabitants is this lovely Anemone ranunculoides 'Semiplena'
A couple of my favourite pulsatillas:
P. halleri
andP.rubra
and finally a not too good picture of an excellent plant, flowering now and continuing until November, with beautiful coppery young leaves: Epimedium 'Golden Eagle'
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Margaret Young (Myoung)
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thank you, Anne. Are those the leaves of Primula sieboldii that I spy to the left of the Anemone?
Seems out and about very early! Especially given the weather! Sorry about your boiler!! |
Luit VanDelft (Lvandelft)
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I'm glad you like the pictures.
Margaret it's not my bicycle. It was too windy and cold for me, but on pict. 04 you see my house and glasshouses behind the Hyacinths.
Actually the tulips are on neighbours land.
I'll have a good glass of red wine to get the coldness out of my body now!
Cheers..
P.S what did I do wrong, I wanted every picture after the text belonging to the picture?? |
Margaret Young (Myoung)
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Luit, actually, originally all your pictures came out in a long line across the page so I corrected that to make them one above another. But I don't know quite why they did not appear in with the text, I am not very clever about these things! I have made more changes to make them so, I hope! |
Anne Wright (Annsie)
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Yes, the P. sieboldiis have been up for some time. I'm very fond of them but they do tend to motor about into everything else. |
Michael J Campbell (M_campbell)
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A pot of Moraea Aristata
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Michael J Campbell (M_campbell)
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Anyone know what this is, it appeared in a pot of seedling Synnotia variegata.
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Lesley Isabel Cox (Lcox)
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Mark, have you thought about Spiloxene alba? I think it used to be called something else though. Its foliage is very small and neat compared with other species and I still think your pic could be that. I doubt if it's a colchicum. |
Lesley Isabel Cox (Lcox)
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Lovely pictures Anne, thanks so much. After the above comments re weather, I feeel a bit of a wimp, ever complaining about ours, but the fact remains, this is a COLDautumn with only about 1 in 3 days being the bright and sunny that we're used to. Good colour starting at last, the star being Fothergilla major. Too small to take a decent picture though, maybe next year. |
Marjorie Smith (Grannysmith)
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Mark, does it have dark brownish red on the back of the leaves? If so, it could be spiloxene alba formerly called hypoxis stellata. |
Lesley Isabel Cox (Lcox)
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Thanks Marjorie, I couldn't think of the previous name. Memory failing fast! |
Mark Smyth (Mark__n_ireland)
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The plant is right down at ground level. The leaves are tiny and about .5 inch high. The flower is no bigger. Thanks for the input. |
Paul Tyerman (Tyerman)
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Mark,
That fits Spiloxene alba (aka Hypoxis stellata) to a tee, but for me here they tend to flower in autumn, not spring. Are they spring flowering in other climates? Mine are just coming into bud here and will flower for the next few months, but I wouldn't have thought that they would extend all the way until spring though?
Michael,
That looks like some sort of Synnotia to me, but I couldn't tell you which. Certainly looks enough like a Synnotia to be one, or a hybrid involving them anyway.
Anne,
Love your pics!! Great to see your fernery area. Those Pulsatillas are lovely (that gorgeous Rubra again! Beautiful!) and the Anemones look so bright and cheerful.
Ian,
Thanks for the update on the Eranthis. I couldn't remember how long the seeds take to mature so I thought it was better to check. I too would have thought that your pics was a Dianthus rather than Lewisia. Wow!!
Wonderful pics as always everyone!! Thanks.
Paul T. Canberra, Australia. |
Franz Hadacek (Fhadacek)
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I start with 3 bulbs (Fritillaria hermonis ssp. amana) 30 years ago. I have now countless flowers with an unpleasant smell. It is a pity that not all Frits. grows so well.
Fritillaria hermonis ssp.amana
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john forrest (Jof)
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Ian Have you tried crossing your double Lewisia? The stigma looks good but it doesn,t look to have functional anthers.
Anne I love your ferny border and other pics.
Seems like we've all caught the British disease (complaining about the weather)
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Anne Wright (Annsie)
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What a fantastic drift of fritillarias, Franz. I'd happily hold my nose if I had a display like that. Wonder if it would keep cats off? |
Anne Wright (Annsie)
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Update - frost last night took the current flowers from Epimedium Golden Eagle, and several early rising fern croziers. Wouldn't it be the only night I hadn't fleeced my potted Deinanthes? A glorious day today in recompense. |
john forrest (Jof)
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I had never heard of Epimediums until E. grndiflorum nanum appeared on the show bench. At that time I used to exchange plants with a guy in The Netherlands and he had just got a load of Epimediums from a Japanese grower. He sent me a good selection all nicely packed and labelled, So I potted them all up and stock alabel in each pot then put them in a tray on the wheelbarrow. I hit a rock and the whole lot ended as a heap of compost, plants and mixed labels. I still have all the labels and all the plants but have only managed to marry a few of them together.
Here are a few in flower at the moment
Epimedium grandiflorum nanum
Epimedium grandiflorum hyb 1
Epimedium grandiflorum hyb 2
Epimedium grandiflorum hyb 3
Epimedium perralderianum
Epimedium acuminatum One of my favourites looking like something from Star Wars or Arachnophobia
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Mark Smyth (Mark__n_ireland)
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jst wait 'til the rain that battered us all today arrives in England! |
Ian Christie (Ichristie)
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Hi John, firstle what fantastic epimediums I do like every picture you posted, I have become interested in Epimediums and have a few planted arond my favourite here is E. rubrum, as for the double Lewisia I have several colour forms and have pollinated but any seedlings so far are just singles but I have rooted several rosettes from main plants. |
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Hi Folks and it is not so cold in Holland today. Thanks to Luit for the pictures "hot ' from the bulb fields.
Watch this space for more pictures when I get back.
Ian |
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Some pictures of the Dutch Alpine plants show last Saturday
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Henk Westerhof (Henkw)
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A few more photo's of the show
A lovely Anemonella
the price winning Cyclamen persicum from Fam Breed
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Marjorie Smith (Grannysmith)
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Sorry Mark, I meant to say red - brown on the back of the petals. |
Ian McEnery (Ianmcenery)
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Here are a few pictures from the garden. The first showing Pleone Limpricti growing in a raised bed. I protect this with a horticultural fleece tent and the clump is getting larger. Unfortunately we had frost last night and the flowers, I have discovered aren't frost hardy, Here is the picture before the frost, Does anyone else have experience of growing this outside in the UK and have they any tips
Sorry the colour went a little wonky its probably the micky mouse camera or the operator
I find a lot of beauty in foliage, The following is meconopsis paniculata. It seems a shame that it will die shortly
As epimediums are getting an airing this is one of mine flowering now and is Fargesi
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Marjorie Smith (Grannysmith)
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John, lovely pics, I love epimediums but only have a couple, youngianum and neosulphureum. If you ever have any seed available I would love to buy, swap, whatever you, or anyone else, would prefer. Although you all sound much more experienced than I and seem to have very exotic plants that are unobtainable here. |
Mark Smyth (Mark__n_ireland)
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Ian many people over here grow them outside. Some cover them with glass and others plant them in grit. |
Michael J Campbell (M_campbell)
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Eritrichium Howardii coming to life after the winter rest
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Lesley Isabel Cox (Lcox)
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Luc, in the second pic you posted here, the Draba, what is the plant to the bottom right of the Draba? I'm assuming it's a saxifrage but it looks quite loose and mat-like for an encrusted form. Can you enlighten me please? |
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John, you certainly know how to tease a poor girl! We have just Epimedum grandiflorum and a little hybrid called x Youngianum `Niveum' here, maybe one or two others in private gardens but not available. You mention that they seed for you. Would it be possible for you to distribute some of this to south (way, way south) of the border? We are no longer able to import plants because of massive permit and quarantine costs (10s of 1000s of dollars per species) so a few of us who are really wanting to introduce new plants are very anxious to find seed sources for such things as your stunning Epimediums, saxifraga hybrids, primulas, dionysias and other things. This is the only way we'll ever have anything new. Would you be willing to help us please? |
Lesley Isabel Cox (Lcox)
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John I've just re-read you Epimedium post. I got so excited by the pics I didn't read the text properly. It was that reference to marriage that did for me and I thought you had grown these from seed. So maybe you don't have seed yet, but hopefully in the future. They are certainly supberb plants and well worth a little pollen-fiddling! |
Lesley Isabel Cox (Lcox)
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Ian (McE) I can't tell you about growing Pleione limprichtii outside in the UK of course, but that species does do well in the open here in New Zealand. So does P. formosana and most of its forms and even some of the x Shantung grex. That is, they GROW well and increase well but do need their flowers protected from frosts as you've already discovered. It's also important to protect the developing leaves from a late frost as this affects the development of new pseudobulbs. I find they like a leafy, gritty compost, much like what I use for potted pleiones and I find they do best under rhododendrons or somewhere their leaves are shaded in summer. I don't use peat in their compost but prefer fine crushed pine bark. The only real problem I have with them growing outside is our few hens which scratch among them and distribute the bulbs around. May I tell a story here please?
A nurseryman friend who grows many pleiones and by the hundreds of thousands, in an enormous glasshouse, a few years ago had the lot safely repotted but then found some trays badly disturbed and accused a few local louts of trampling around and vandalising. Nothing was done about it but in October (our spring) he heard young birds chirping and looked up into the top glass of the structure to find birds' nests, dripping with pleione flowers. The parent birds had raided the newly planted trays for the spaghnum and helped themselve to bulbs as well! |
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Luc, another look at the saxifrage makes me think it could be a batch of young plants? Seedlings from something like S. `Bridget' or something similar? |
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Thanks Isobel I also had minor bird damage and I also have tried Formosana in the same bed but it survives but has yet to flower. Perhaps I should get rid of the chickens |
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Henk, thank you for photos from Dutch Conference. What a lovely cyclamen persicum! |
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Hello Lesley Isabel !
The plant alongside the Draba imbricata is a good oldfashioned S. "Southside seedling" - quite loose indeed as the rosettes that have flowered always die down - but it does "refill" itself reliably.
The only Pleione that can reliably be grown outdoors here (Belgium) is bulbocodioides - some people grow it succesfully in between pure peatblocks. There's a huge population at Utrecht Botanic gardens in Holland flowering like mad that way. The flowers do suffer from any bad weather though - no way I would entrust my little treasures to our climate's goodwill...lol.
Talking about Utrecht, I visited the Dutch alpine flower show + sales day as well...brrrrrrrrrr it was stone cold and I got soaked as so many other visitors. But it was more than worthwhile anyway. I wouldn't miss it for anything as it is the only show at this side of the Channel - and on top of that it allows us to meet so many people ... even if it means trampling around in the mud for the best part of the day.
I hope that sometime we can organise something like it (be it on a more moderate scale) with our recently founded VRV (Vlaamse Rotsplanten Vereniging = Flemish Rockgarden society) - who knows...
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Oeps I forgot to mention : thanks to all posters for this avalanche of beauties over the last few days again - this is grrrrrrreat !
John (Forrest) I forgot to congratulate you earlier on for the absolutely breathtaking Lewisia Patricia Forrest you posted - I'm a Lewisia fan myself (in fact - it's the view of a Lewisia that got me addicted to alpine gardening some 20 odd years ago)and I can only wish I had a Patricia Forrest like that...lol..
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Anne,
Cats do not love this Fritellaria.
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Anne Wright (Annsie)
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Can someone verify the ID of this Epimedium? I had it from a friend as E x versicolor 'Sulphureum', but mention above of 'Neosulphureum' has me wondering. What is the difference? |
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oops, forgot the photo!
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Lesley Isabel Cox (Lcox)
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Oh God, the worst possible thing has happened at last! someone has actually called me Isabel! I dearly love my (96 year old) aunt but wish I hadn't been named for her.
OK Ian (McE), no hard feelings. LOL as Paul would say. |
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Hi all
Thanks for the comments about the Epimediums. I have never really bothered with seed from them and haven't actually noticed see pods because they are easy to propagate by division. As I was cutting off the old leave this spring I did notice seedlings in the pots.
If you live where you can receive live plants then send me an e-mail and I will try to get some divisions after flowering time.
Those who want seed I will do my best to look for seed and send it on.
Ian McEnery If you want a swap for a bit of your E. fargesii which I haven't yet got
Ian Christie How about swapping a piece of your Lewisia for any of my Epimediums?
Luc Sorry I can't oblige with a piece of Lewisia Patricia Forrest it's quite slow growing and people keep asking for cuttings so I never get chance to build up a stock. |
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Forgot to mention I will be posting a few more Epimediums as they come into flower. |
Lesley Isabel Cox (Lcox)
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Yes please John, please do save seed if you can and remember us poor things down under who are unable to get so many wonderful things. Your generosity is MUCH appreciated.
Address follows for when and if... |
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This is Pulsatilla georgica. A Josef Halda collection from the Caucasus. It is only about 10 cm in height.
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Jon not a problem - though there isn't much of it yet - the book says divide when dormant |
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Lesley
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John,
Love those Epimediums. Another of the things I collect (then again there ARE a lot of those things! LOL). E. acuminatum is one of my favourite with those wonderful white and purple flowers that are so different to so many of the others.
Ian M,
I haven't come across E. fargesii before.... can you tell us anything more about it? The flowers look quite different.
Anne,
E. 'Sulphureum' and 'Neosulphurem' are supposedly not that easy to tell apart. I have bought both of them but figure I likely have one or the other but can't tell the difference. *grin*
Jozef,
That Pulsatilla is stunning!!!! Gorgeous picture of it. Being only that tall it must be adorably "cute". Definitely should be in collections if it isn't..... definitely desirable to Pulsatilla collectors I am sure!
Paul T. Canberra, Australia. |
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Oh Ta, Ian, I do my best. |
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Paul, I should be able to do some seed for you of the Pulsatilla, after the spring flowering. Mine is ALMOST the same, just slight variation in the flower colour. The outer blue is washed over a very pale lemon shade. I have it as P. albana v. georgica. It sets good seed but has the disconcerting habit of disappearing underground totally, for winter. Other species are evergreen or at least partially. A jolly good plant which is long-lived and reliable. |
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Lesley,
Oooh. Thank you kindly.
I am just about to work out how to repot the Pulsatilla vernalis you sent me a while back. I have a pot with a sprinkling of seedlings throughout and figure they would likely be better in groups in their own pots. Never grown pulsatillas before from seed so I hope they survive transplanting? Or should I have sown a few seeds each into tubes so that they could grow for longer without disturbance? Live and learn I guess! LOL
Paul T. Canberra, Australia. |
Ian McEnery (Ianmcenery)
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Paul
I haven't yet got Sterns book on Epimediums so I can't help in giving any botanical detail. The foliage stands about 6" (you can tell my age) and the flower stems are at 45 degrees total height 12". I bought it from a Garden in Truro Cornwall called Bosvigo (very nice by the way)and the lady who owns it was quite excited about the plant and I knew here well enough to buy one on that recommendation.
I have zoomed in on the flower the picture quality is not good but you can see flower and foliage
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Ian Christie (Ichristie)
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Here we are again one picture showing the inside of Erythronium japonicum which I rate as a 12 out of 10 the plant that is and an oddity Aleniopsis sp which is in a cold glasshouse.
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I'm with you on the erythronium Ian C. It's on my list of wants. The E. sibiricum I got from you a couple of years ago had two flowers this year, but a neighbour's child stood on it when trying to look into the pond! |
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Nah Ian (C) at least 15.
Paul, you shouldn't have too much trouble with the P. vernalis seedlings. Three to a pot is a good idea as like Gent. verna, they like a root association. (In fact, those 2 do well together.) They're not difficult to move but don't prick them out, empty the whole pot of seedlings and you'll find they almost fall into separate plants with no root damage. Use plastic pots rather then clay as in your climate keeping them cool with be important. They won't mind frost in winter but DON'T like to dry out so a good leafy compost with grit. They like a little lime too. My best plants (already well into buds which will overwinter as fat blobs of fur) are in raised beds. |
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Ian, is the Aleniopsis related to Mesembryanthemum, Delosperma and that lot? Looks nice. |
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Darn it, I keep forgetting things. I meant to ask Ian, is Erythronium japonicum the same as E. dens-canis japonicum, which I have and it's very good, superior to d-c but not as good as yours above |
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Ian what an absolutely cracking Erythronium.
Here are a couple more Epimediums in flower at the moment.
Epimedium franchetii
Epimedium ecalcarata hybrid from seed but not sure what it hybridised with.
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Can someone ID this Aquilegia? to the top of the flower is 2.5"/c6cm. The leaves are very small and the colour is aubergine.
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Mark here is a few more of my Lewisia Brachycalyx hybs
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And a couple of interesting Lewisia Cotyledon
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Ian,
Re Erythronium japonicum..... MUST HAVE!!!!!! I didn't know you could get Erythroniums in that colour, now I desperately NEED some seed! *grin* If anyone sees seed of that available or theirs produce seed then I am quite willing to beg profusely as that is a VERY superior flower!!
Michael,
The Lewisia forms are rather beautiful aren't they. I can't say that I have had much experience with Lewisia here, although I do have a basic yellowy pink one that has grown quite happily for me for the last few years.
Paul T. Canberra, Australia. |
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Welcome to the forum Alan and thank you for posting the pictures. To tidy up threads I have moved them to the new thread for the Dutch Conference in the General Forum.
http://www.srgc.org.uk/discus/messages/1078/10834. html?1113851582
I will be making more posts there and hope that others will also.
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Here I will show you my most loved Hepatica, it comes from Scotland (Ian C - I am very happy about this plant).
In my Berlin garden, the Hepatica is in flower from Febr. - now and longer.
(Sorry for my bad English ...) Irm |
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Hi, first of all Erythronium japonicum from japan as far as I know is a separate species which may be connected to dens canis a million years ago but this is difficult to get established and so far no seed, I live in hope maybe Ian the Young kind can give some more info. The Aleniopsis which I have had for several years, sorry but will have to look up the books for this one. I really love ALL those wonderful Lewisia's Michael what a show. Irm your Heatica is H. pyrenaica 'Snowstorm' named by me and it comes true from seed also has superb marked leaves once the new ones appear. |
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Michael I like your 2nd L. brachycalyx, what was the other parent?
Irm & Ian I like your Hepatica but I think it should be H.nobilis It is good to have beautiful leaves after the flowers. Mine doesn't have such nice flowers though (all but 1 flower have gone over)
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Hi All,
Here are a few pictures of Daphne genkwa, showing the differences in floweriness and flower size among 3 clones.
Jozef Lemmens - Belgium
Daphne genkwa 'Dr. Simon 2'
 
Daphne genkwa 'Clone 2'
 
Daphne genkwa 'Large Flower Form'
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Göte K. A. Svanholm (Gote)
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Hepatica transsilvatica = angulosa is just surviving in my garden. The flowers are nearly twice those of H. nobilis
The following two are "normal" H. nobilis 
Does anybody know what the following is?? it is supposed to come from Vladivostok, it is much earlier than Anemone nemorosa and also shorter. 
All colours are stronger in the real world than they came out here but I did not try to enhance them. |
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Josef, these Daphne genkwa are all lovely. I do not see them available much in Scotland. Are they hardy outside? |
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Mark, I wonder if your aquilegia is A. flabellata or A. f. nana. The size you mention and the shape are exactly right and the half and half colouring is typical. Usually blue and white of course but it could be just a lucky colour break or perhaps a hybrid with a bigger deep coloured form, which has happily retained the size and shape of the smaller plant. Whatever, a very attractive little plant and I should think well worth growing on some seedlings, weeding out anything too big or which loses that super colour. |
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thanks Lesley. What is the f for in A. f. 'Nana'? |
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senior moment! no need to reply |
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John,the other parent is Lewisia cotyledon the same colour. The colour just trasferes to the Brachycalyx but the hybrids are all evergreen and flower almost all year. I have taken some pictures on Christmas day.
Here is a few more.
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Lesley Isabel Cox (Lcox)
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The moral is: get a few seeds from a seedlist of Lewisia brachycalyx and buy a new paint brush. We don't seem to have L. brachycalyx here now. Is it close to L. nevadensis? and would the same cross (with cotyledon) work do you think Michael? L. nevavdensis DOES hybridise with the little L. pygmaea x rediviva seedling (or is it vice versa?) which itself, comes true from seed. The resultant seedlings are a very soft pink with nevadensis-type foliage. Very pretty |
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Lesley,No it is not as simple as that, you must start with good true to type Brachycalyx which are no easy to come by as a lot of them have crossed with nevadensis and do not produce good Hybs. "Most of them are not evergreen". you would need wild collected seed or I can send you some if you like.
The true Brachycalyx foliage is a dull green and folds down over the side of the pot. If the foliage stands up and is bright green then it is a Nevadensis X Brachycalyx cross and will not produce good offspring.
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Lesley here is a picture of the true Brachycalyx
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John,
I knew that some of the Hepaticas had marbled foliage by that is really something. As you say, the foliage after the flowers is definitely well and truely worthwhile. I had no idea that some were THAT marbled. Wow!
Paul T. Canberra, Australia. |
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Margaret,
My experience with these Daphnes is very limited. They survived the last 2 winters with temperatures of minus 10 – 12°C.
They must be hardy, because I have them from Germany and the US (New York) where the winters are much colder. But of course, hardiness is not only dependant of temperatures. The moisture of the soil is also important. The future will tell.
Jozef Lemmens - Belgium
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John, I have several Hepatica nobilis var Pyrenaica which all have the same super marbled leaf and this variety is now known simply as Hepatica pyrenaica from the Spanish Pyrenees as far as I know John Massey at Ashwood has exhibited this at London shows as such.Today I have the first flowers on Primula tanguitica which we collected the seed in China has been in cultivation fleetingly before and another double lewisia Amber.
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Hi Michael, yes, I see from your pic that we DON'T have brachycalyx and I remember many years ago that people were sending seed to various lists as this, and others who received it were arguing about the true identity (this was in NZ, so it's likely that it's never been here.) For this reason, I would be thrilled if you would let me have a little seed when it's ready. I have some really good cotyledon seedlings which would be worth playing with. I'll send my address now but will remind you later if that's OK. Thanks so much, Lesley |
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Ian
Just the splitters and lumpers at it again ( a rose by any other name)I like both your pics. Your Primula is completely new to me and very interesting. I don't usually care for the yellowy orange Lewisia hybrids which can be rather bilious but yours is rather nice.
Here are few of mine.An easy and easily propagated plant Androsace studiosorum Doksa.
Androsace vandellii is fairly easy when small but becoming more tricky with age. This one hasn’t quite achieved the complete ice cream cone.
Neither has Saxifraga Cumulus due to not turning the pot sufficiently. A nice white and fades pink.
Saxifraga scardica from the MESE collection is growing very slowly but is a nice clear white that shines out in the rock garden.
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A few pictures of my favourite genus: Androsace
In the alpine house: Androsace vandellii
In a trough: Androace villosa v. barbulata
In the open garden: Androsace villosa v. taurica
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Michael J Campbell (M_campbell)
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Lesley, no Problem,that will be fine, cheers |
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Here are some photos from Margaret Glynn's garden. She would appreciate names for her plants.
A sea of Erythronium 'White Beauty'
unknown Erythroniums
Erythronium like a tall dens-canis
Erythronium
unknown Frit
Geranium libani x peloponnesiacum a wonderful March/April flowering tuberous Geranium for spring colour. This will have died down by June
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Hi Mark, the frit is undoubtedly (wait till I click my little italics button), F. acmopetala and maybe the first ery is E.citrinum but easier to tell if some foliage and general stature are shown as well. I do like the pinky and while it seems unlikely, it looks like revolutum x dens-canis with a bit of dodecatheon thrown in (Ha Ha).Who knows? but jolly nice. The third ery looks to have a bit of revolutum in there too. It does hybridize readily and is obviously in a garden with lots of partners to choose from. You realize I'm saying all this now, before Ian (Y) comes up with the real info and makes a right prat of me. Ho hum} |
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next Thursday I'll go back and take more photos of the Erythroniums including leaves and flowering stems. Margaret has a fantastic 3 acre garden crammed with goodies. The garden doesnt have 'rooms' but she has a raised herbacaeous bed, greenhouse, woodland garden, small pond, bog area, island beds, rockery/scree bed and a huge lawn. There is something of interest all year round. The best months are Feb/March for the snowdrops and April/May for other bulbs and Rhodos.
Ian and Maggi Young will be lucky enough to stay there later this year. |
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I forgot about the unknown bulb growing on here rockery/scree
The height of the flower and leaves is just over an inch. 2.5cm
a better shot of the flower
the leaves
the whole plant from bulb to leaf tip is 2 inches |
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Mark and Lesley the frit is acmopetala.
It is not the leaves that I would like to see of the first Erythronium but the side view of the flower showing the filaments, are they slender and thread like or do they widen like Dutchmans breeches? I do not think it is E. citrinum, I see a lot of so called citrinum at shows and none of it is correct - most are E. oregonum or a hybrid involving that species.
The second is E. revolutum most likely from the northern end of the range where it gets into Canada. Typical of this smaller version of E. revolutum is the dodcatheon look mentioned by Lesley and also the purple colour in the filaments and style - it is one of my favourite forms of revolutum. There is no way that E. revolutum and dens canis could cross as they are far too distantly related.
I would need to see more of the last one to know what it is but it has a look of a tuolumnense hybrid.
Lesley, you did not too bad on your ID of the erythroniums from the information shown - I will give you 5 out of 10. 
I will be looking at erythroniums in next week's bulb log. |
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Mark,
This is a third confirmation of acmopatela. It looks like one of the forms I have as there appears to be quite a few different forms about with broader or narrower petals etc but all with more or less the same markings. A good old reliable frit, that is for sure!!
Your first unknown Erythronium definitely looks like some form of E. oregonum but not sure exactly which. The markings are very similar to mine which is supposedly ssp leucanthum but isn't exactly easy to work out given hybridisation between the ssp etc. The colour and markings on yours are definitely consistent with that species anyway, but I am not sure of the definitive characteristics but it appears that Ian does which is handy! *grin* That pink Erythronium is a very nice form, better than anything in the way of pinks (although I don't have many of them) that I have. Great pics!!
As to your white unknown.... Is this a plant that you have in your own garden or is it in someone else's. Either way, would you be allowed to lift a couple of bulbs to show the structure below ground? Things like Spiloxene alba as we have mentioned before are very distictive in their offset arrangement so it may be a help in narrowing down what it is, although the "sexy bits" aren't quite right for that.
I would be leaning towards some sort of Zephyranthes by the look of it, although it is VERY short for that. Except for how short it is it looks very similar in flower and leaf to Zephyranthes candida and it may be even possible that something has shocked the plant enough to get it to flower in spring instead of summer/autumn and therefore produced very short flowers? The stamen and style arrangement and tha apparent fusing of the anthers at the base of each petal definitely fit with the Zephyranthes family. Maybe the height is a product of flowering at the wrong time, but here Z. candida at least is mostly evergreen and is never that consistently short at any time of year from memory. Maybe another relative though?
Anyway, we can keep trying to narrow it down. If there is enough to sacrifice a bulb to photograph (it will probably continue to grow quite happily after replanting to it isn't really much of a sacrifice *grin*) it might be worthwhile.
Paul T. Canberra, Australia. |
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Dear Ian Christie, you gave me a handwrite label with "Apple Blossom" wrote on it :-)) but "Snowstorm" is ok for me, I like it so or so ...
John, I think, Hepatica pyrenaica is a Hepatica nobilis ?! Hepatica nobilis pyrenaica ?! but I'm not shure.
The photo shows the old leaves from last year, the best "old" leaves from all my Heps.
Here an other plant, I got this year, Hep. transs. "Konny Greenfield" (english name ?)
Greetings Irm - Berlin (the last two nights -6 degrees, all magnolia blossoms brown)
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Hello, Irm and Ian C. I have that hepatica from you, Ian as "Appleblossom", too!
The correct name for your pretty blue one is "Connie Greenfield", Irm. This was an English collector and grower, now dead, who had a very good eye for a fine plant. I do not know if she named this hepatica or if someone named it after her.
I am sorry for the loss of your magnolia flowers.... where is REAL Spring? Or is it that spring is as variable as the plants we grow, and we should learn to relax about the changes? I find this sort of relaxation very hard, myself! I worry a lot about my rhododendron flowers! There are magnolias flowering here, too, let us hope there is not too much frost!
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I really like that hepatica Irm and will be looking out for it in the future. |
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Irm,
Lovely hepatica. That loose "anemone centre" looks great. Sorry to hear about your Magnolia.... every year I live in fear of that here as well. We have a massive old Magnolia x soulangeana (that spelling doesn't look right?) that is about 12 feet higher than our house now. It grows more like a tree with 2 main trunks, each over a foot wide. When it flowers it is VERY impressive as it is so large. You can see it from both the streets (we're a corner house) and in the next street as well. So often it is in peak flower when we get a frost and the flowers all start to brown. It nearly makes you cry doesn't it? Such a shame.
Here's hoping that that was the last blast of cold and that nothing else gets damaged from now on. That way you can enjoy your spring flowers without any concerns for them. Good luck
Paul T. Canberra, Australia. |
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Hi John everyone, I guess you are right about names for plants and I suppose inventing another name means we might sell a few more but I do thing that this group of Hepatica's from the Spanish Pyrenees should be given a group name H. nobilis pyrenaica group as now we have many flower colours with fantastic leaves, I am sorry that maybe I have sold a few which were not the right colour but I blame the bee which visited several others to make them variable. John, I love all your pictures. |
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17 years ago I sowed a single seed of a Cornus species from SRGC distribution. Here is the result which I almost missed because my nose is always pointing downwards as I look at dwarf bulbs
and a close up . I think it is C nutallii
In the background is Betula jaquemontii and foreground Abies nordmanniana Golden Spreader |
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I decided to send in this Picture of my Erythronium hybrid showing the inside of the flower after I saw Marks picture also this super Paris species whichn is about 4inches high
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Here some pictures of Ledebouria.
The first is a pan with Ledebouria adlami
{Ledebouria adlami resiz.}
and another one in close up
{Ledebouria adlami cl.}
Just started into flowering, but not so spectacular is
{Ledebouria socialis}
here are the leaves nicely spotted and
very dark on the back.
The third one is mostly green and grey spotted at the moment and just in bud.
Interesting is that only L. adlami has its bulbs
underground and dies off in late summer.
{Ledebouria cooperi}
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Here is Erythronium californicum White Beauty which I bought from Ian C.
and Arum nigrum which I didn't.
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Moving house after forty odd years means leaving a few old friends behind 'cos they're just too big to move. This was bought as Rhododendron Blue Diamond thirty three years ago |
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Ian,
That Paris looks pretty unusual, can you tell us something about it. Have you managed to identify it??
Cheers John H |
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I love Paris in the springtime - as the song says. Or I would if I could. I certainly love that one Ian. |
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Scilla adlamii = Ledebouria cooperi n'est ce pas? |
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Ian,
I'll join the chorus of admiration for the Paris species. Just beautiful with that dark edge.
Lesley,
Yep they're the same thing, along with various other combinations depending on where you buy it. I have seen Scilla coopera and Ledebouria adlamii as well. I am not sure which is the current correct name but I "think" is is Scilla adlamii.... but don't quote me on that! *grin*
Paul T. Canberra, Australia. |
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Re.: Ledebouria
O.K., Lesley, as a practical gardener I always have my problems with plants treated by the anabaptists.
They often change names back again (not in this case).
I must admit when passing the Ledebouria, in my head it comes first as Scilla….
Maybe the plant I have as L. cooperi could be L. pauciflora??
Paul, according to the books I have, I not agree with you. So Scilla adlamii should be Ledebouria cooperi. As I am no taxonomist, I may be wrong though?? |
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Luis,
Well here in Australia the names seem interchangeable.... definitely Ledebouria adlamii and Scilla cooperi are 2 that I have seen the plant sold under, but heard of the others. I have not found a reference that will tell me the truth of which is which so I can only go by what I have seen and heard in other places. There is a good chance that at least in Lesley's case (being in New Zealand) things sold under those names are the same. If you have a reference that shows differently then great, as I would love to know exactly what the thing actually is called. It would also depend how old the reference is of course as things seem to change so rapidly at times! *grin*
Paul T. Canberra, Australia. |
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Look away now Margaret there are some dreaded doubles.
I bought the first as Anemone nemerosa Greenfingers but I recall reading in one of the bulletins that there was confusion in the trade about a couple of this type. Perhaps one of you could confirm ( or otherwise).
Anemone nemerosa Vestal. How could you not love this?
The next is Anemonella Don Huckenberry named after the guy who found this clone growing in the USA.
Only a semi or multipetal so you only need close one eye
and a purple one.
Lastly a ‘proper’ bulb
Fritillaria acmopetala
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Gwen, I do not envy you the task of moving all that you want to, from your present garden to Muir of ord, but even worse must be the sadnees of having to leave old friends like this Rhodo.Blue Diamond is one of the most reliable of the "old blues" that we have too. Not quite so tough as Blue Tit, I don't think, but a sharper colour. There will be lots of things like this you will be sorry to leave. I do think the excitiment of your new garden will soon overtake any regrets, though, you are too enthusiastic to do otherwise!
John, I must be weakening. I am beginning to find some of these anemones and anemonellas rather fetching, double or not. I may lie down later to see if the feeling passes! I do like Don Huckleberry, no, you wriote Huckenberry, but shouldn't it be Hackenberry? Maybe I've got the wrong man. It wouldn't be the first time! |
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Maggi, what is this about getting the wrong man? Judge your man as you would a desirable plant, Performance in the garden gets better year by year, Distinctive. Constant.If the object provokes envy when viewed by others so much the better! Apologies to Maestro Young, I will stick to garden topics now Sir |
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Quite so, Gwen, nicely said, but you take no account of my various faux pas with errant Tradesmen; the friendly, though incompetent Dentist (now thankfully replaced by a youthful chap as skilled as he is easy on the eye i.e. very); not to mention a ghastly G. P. who had the intelligence of a split pea (and here I may be maligning the pea)! This last horror but a distant, if painful, memory now that I am in the care of a very bright woman... albeit a golfer, but nobody's perfect!! See what I mean!! Also, I have trouble thinking I remember people's names, or faces, when I have never met them before. Can be bothersome, that. |
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What another busy week on this forum - one could almost make it a fulltime occupation to keep up !
And soooo many unbelievably great pix again !
John,
I'm not a Frit addict but this F. acmopetala does look very good indeed - and the red Pulsatilla is marvelous as well.
The Erythroniums that have been on show here are opening up a new world for me - all these magnificent species and hybrids... brilliant.
Jef,
You do know how to grow Androsace don't you - thanks for enriching my collection in Utrecht last week - Ranunculus parnassifolius has found a good spot too.. I'm looking forward to the first flower opening..
Micael and Ian C thanks very much for the stunning pix of all these marvelous Lewisia hybrids... I'm droolin....
Guess it's time now to make my own modest contribution :
First some of the last Pleione for this season :
Pl. stromboli "Fireball"
Pl. asama - one of my favourites - but then I've got so many...lol
Then - outside on an east facing slope :
Lithodora Picos and Berberis "Misty Fire"
Arnebia echioides
And a close up :
And last but not least another favourite of mine : Polygala calcarea "Lillet"
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Having had to be sociable at lunch time today (and having a chauffeur too, thank goodness !), not too much has been achieved elsewhere and a quiet evening has allowed me to sit down and do something I've been meaning to do for some time - browse through 'Flowering Now'
Gob-smacking and mouth watering to say the least, and that's only this latest week's worth. I'm not up to the speed you guys are at growing alpines - and never will be as I came to it too late with too many other interests to be satisfied. But I did think that with running the Seed Distribution I was getting a bit of a handle on alpines - oh no, by no means NO !! One week's Flowering Now and I've got 15 names I would like to try - none of them are in this year's seed list and several families I'd never heard of.
Is it worth continuing I ask myself ?
Epimediums for instance; never heard of them before though my book has the best part of 2 pages on them - such wonderful plants but no where do I see seeds.
Am I missing out on something - is there a seed exchange closed shop that I haven't succeeded in being initiated into; the Grand Order of Seed Horticulturists (GOSH for short !). Do you pass packets of seeds in a folded newspaper having made the secret sign. Tell me, tell me please I want some of these plants too.
On a serious theme, there is one thing that does need addressing and that is how useful it would be to know where each contributor lives. Is there not some way in which the information in the lefthand column could include the subscriber's location - many of the posts would make more sense if I knew where they were coming from.
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Lillet is a favourite of mine too, making pools of blue on the rock garden just now. Meanwhile another favourite, Epimedium grandiflorum nanum'Freya', is just starting into flower in the alpine house. It's not terribly 'nanum', flowering at about 25cm, but with strikingly bicoloured flowers.
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Hi All,
A few pictures more, taken in a Belgian garden.
Pulsatilla patens ssp. flavescens from the Sayan Mts. (E-Siberia), about 12 – 15 cm in height.
Androsace wardii from open rocky meadows in Yunnan and Sichuan. In cultivation it forms a lax cushion, although the plants in the wild have mostly only one single rosette.
Daphne x susannae ‘Cheriton’: a hybrid between D. aubuscula and collina
 
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I love it! The intelligence of a split pea!. I know just where I can use that. We're having a parlimentary election her in a few months.
Maggi, I love those anemones and the anemonella too (Hackenberry it is) but did you have the impression that John (F) was suggesting that we are one-eyed?
Jozef, these are lovely pics, so very sharp and clear. I look forward to more from you. |
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Jozef,
I love those Daphne!!! They are so vibrant and colourful. Well done and great pic!!!
pokerboy |
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The Farrer medal for the Dublin show should have gone to these photos
when in doubt plant a Geranium - Margery Fish |
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I love the pics everyone. Great stuff!!
Anne, that dark Epimedium is gorgeous!! What a colour.
John, are doubles in pulsatillas common for you guys? I came across a double purple in a garden centre last year and of course bought it. Thankfully it wasn't just a freak flower as all flowers since then have been double. I had never seen it's like before and have not seen any doubles until that lovely double red (drool!) of yours that you have just posted. I've always wanted a good red pulsatilla (well ANY red pulsatila) but a double one sounds even more lovely!! *grin*
Paul T. Canberra, Australia. |
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Apologies to Don HACKENBERRY, too much Huckleberry Hound when I was a growing up*grin*
Luc Pleione asama is a very rich colour & good pic as always.
Ditto to Anne for that lovely Epimedium Frey which I haven't seen before.
Jozef Wonderful Pulsatilla pic and Mark what great and imaginative pictures.
Paul All my Pulsatillas are from seed and there is a lady in the Lake District area who specialised in Fringed ones. She donated seed to the seed exchange.
Since we recently have had some Lewisias, for which I am pleased, here are 2 of mine in the ‘small but perfectly formed’ category. Lewisia glandulosa collected by Ron Ratko in N Sierra Nevada AlpineCo CA
The other is Lewisia Audrey, a tiny hybrid of which the seed parent was L. sierrae and pollinated by L.cotyledon Rose Splendour.
Lastly a Lewisia rediviva which did the rounds many years ag as L. r. Giant White Form. When well looked after the flowers are over 10cm across but it was difficult for showing because the flowers don’t unfurl unless it is bright sunlight.
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Paul Tyerman (Tyerman)
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John,
Thanks for the info. Unfortunately I joined just as the seed exchange finished for this year so I missed out. Please keep me in mind if you have spare seed from yours any year as I would like to build up a collection of Pulsatillas. They're so gorgeously furry!
LOL Now that I seem to have had success with P. vernalis from Lesley in NZ I would definitely like to try more. I REALLY need acreage for my garden for everything I want to grow! LOL
Paul T. Canberra, Australia. |
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Paul, I have planted a mixed lot of fresh pulsatilla seeds given to me by Ken Gillanders. There should be some good ones amongst them as he has some lovely varieties. If they germinate sucessfuly I am happy to send you some. Be a while yet though. |
Lesley Isabel Cox (Lcox)
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Paul (oh well, I SUPPOSE we can be friends after all). So far as I remember, the double and semi-double Pulsatilla forms were first available as a strain called `Papagaeno' and I first came across them in the seed catalogue of Jellito in Germany. But I'm sure you'll find P. `Papagaeno' on the seed lists in coming seasons and those would be worth a try. They seem to produce a high proportion of doubles and semi doubles, or fringed types. Mine are making buds already and I'm sure I can send you seed later on of some good red forms. I have a few that are very close to scarlet and some lovely soft pinks, pure whites etc. |
Lesley Isabel Cox (Lcox)
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Someone's been pinching pics from TAG! |
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not me! I took them at the show.
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Pal and Leslie,
More years ago than I care to remember The Alpine Garden Society arranged a trip to what was then called Czechoslovakia when it was still"behind the Iron Curtain" and we attended the Prague Rock Garden Society Show in early May as well as viewing many fine private gardens. In the Garden of Olga Ducachova near Prague we saw a fine display of double, semi-double and other fancy pulsatillas in a huge range of colours from white pale pink, strawberry ice pink through all the reds and purples to deepest burgundy wine, No information was forthcoming about their provenance other than that she had been sowing and distributing seed for years. She sent to me that year an envelope full of fresh seed and the resultant plants caused quite a stir. Four or five years later they were featured in full bloom on TV when our Channel Four Gardening Club visited us with Roy Lancaster. Requests came for all quarters for seed including Thompson and Morgan a well known seed seller and about the same time Jellito adverts appeared. I imagine that theirs had originated in Czechslovakia too
Pulsatillas here are not individually long lived plants but keep going with generous seed set. The pinks and whites mostly dwindled away but we still have goodly numbers of varying reds and purples of value since we weeded out the mulberry brown reds and muddy purples . I will hunt out a pic and send it later |
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Thanks Gwendolyn, I guess by now we aren't surprised when good things come out of the Czech Republic. I wish a lot more were available down here, such as the saxifrage hybrids and saponaria hybrids. |
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Mark. Who is Margery Fish and why does she keep telling us to plant geraniums? |
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Gwen,
Thanks for the history info. Great stuff. I still have few of the pulsatillas so I could cope with some of the "muddy purple" and "Mulberry brown reds" here! *grin*
Paul T. Canberra, Australia. |
Paul Tyerman (Tyerman)
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Lesley,
Your comment about the stolen pics from TAG.... was that for the "comedy" pics above?
Paul T. Canberra, Australia. |
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Gwendolen
If it was you that was the donor to the exchange then blessings on you and your house for the pleasure given. If it wasn't you directly then I'm sure mine are the result of your efforts. It's nice to know the history behind the plants we are so fond of.I did have some more exotic ones from the original sowing but they were,as in your experience,not long lived. |
Ian McEnery (Ianmcenery)
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Just a bit of interest in the garden before a little trip to Crete
Lewisia Tweedyi in a trough it will probably die next winter a bit of an experiment
This is Clematis Marmaria barely inches high
Primula Woolastonii (my seed has germinated and I hope not to kill them by kindness)
And finally a Gentian Acaulis or whatever called Belvedere I had almost given up with this plant until I got this one it seems to flower well with me. Also Ian C mentioned this one recently as a good doer
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Luc Gilgemyn (Luc)
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Beautiful Lewisia Tweedyi Ian - I guess it's "Elliot's form". Don't be too pessimistic for it to die on you next winter - I've got quite some of them doing really well outside (given a pane of glass in Winter - this is rainy Belgium you know) - they even seed themselves about (the nasty weeds...lol). My experience is they do well for a maximum of 3 - maybe 4 years outside - then the crowns become to congested and they tend to rot.
I'm very happy with my Gentiana acaulis this year - quite a lot of flowers - I hope to post some pix as soon as I've got my pc repaired - it broke down yesterday...
I'm sending this message from my daughters laptop - but I can't post pix from it.
Do have fun in Crete Ian - leaving us poor souls behind in the rain...lol |
Ian McEnery (Ianmcenery)
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Luc perhaps I should be more optimistic. Thanks for advice I will let you know if it works for me
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Ian some of our best lewisia tweedyi have been outside.
I have never had trouble with them in the winter but found that they disliked summer wet. The seem to want a dry rest through July and August.
It is a very rich coloured form. |
Luit VanDelft (Lvandelft)
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Re.: Ledebouria
Paul, some years ago I read somewhere about naming of Ledebouria cooperi or L. adlamii and made a note on my PC. But I didn ‘t write where I read it.
I’m afraid I can’t find it now.
However, in the RHS Manual of Bulbs, John Bryan, 1991/1995 is a short description of L. cooperi, which fits to the plant formerly known to me as Scilla adlamii.
What makes me wonder is that J. Bryan does ‘nt even mention the syn. adlamii. He just gives as the right name:
Ledebouria cooperi (Hook.f.) Jessop with the syn. Scilla cooperi Hook f.
J.P. Jessop published in 1970 Studies in bulbous Liliaceae; Journal of S. African Botany 36(4) pp. 233-266.
Paul, after writing this I must admit I’m not so sure about the right name at this moment either!
Greetings, Luit.
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I'm off to the Czech Republic again in September for their Autumn show and to see gardens in a different season. I went in May last year.
Anthony Margery Fish gardened in East Lambrook Manor, Somerset. She said "when in doubt ...". I just thought I would add it to my signature below much the same as paul adds his address.
when in doubt plant a Geranium - Margery Fish |
Franz Hadacek (Fhadacek)
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I know Olga Duchacova very well. I often visited its garden. Enclosed some pictures of Pulsatilla vulgaris ‘Papageno’ from his garden.
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john forrest (Jof)
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Franz those Pulsatillas are super and so is your photography.
Here are a few things in flower with me at the moment
Erythronium citronella
Corydalis Kingfisher was raised by Keith Lever at Aberconwy. It is sterile and so flowers for a really long period.
Olsynium biflora
Tulbaghia comminsii
Triteleia ixioides Starlight
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Robert Graham (Robgraham)
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Ref. Lewisia Tweedii - mine are only just coming into flower now and I'll post pictures when they are in full bloom. I've never had any problems with them, growing them vertically in a west facing wall and both plants are 7 or 8 years old now. Ian McEnery's picture is definitely L. Tweedii as far as I'm concerned - Elliot's Form that I have is much paler, though not pure white as the Alba is, and has beautiful pinching at the petal tips. A week or so of this warmer weather should have the two 'cabbage' size plants in full bloom.
Rob
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Lesley Isabel Cox (Lcox)
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Yes Paul, it was. I first saw them on Alan Grainger's excellent website, a few months ago. It's great that at least some of the puir Sassenachs can have a bit of a laugh about their alpines. My apologies Mark, I didn't realize they were at the Dublin Show. Not really accusing you of grand larceny. They should be spread around anyway. |
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Who was Marjery Fish Anthony? As well ask who was Robert Burns who undoubtedly said "when in doubt, have a Scotch." |
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Clever you Ian (McE). Before you rush off to Crete, or the MINUTE you get back, please where did you get the seed of Primula wollastonii? I used to have this but not now.It had the happy habit of making new rosettes every time I weeded round it, the bruised roots sprouting in a most convenient way. It was very happy in a little raised bed of leafy gritty soil and no sun at all. Love the scent as well. |
Ian McEnery (Ianmcenery)
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I should have added that I bought Tweedyi as var Rosea
Thanks for all your encouragement |
Ian McEnery (Ianmcenery)
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Lesley
The seed was from the SRGC seed distribution - lucky me |
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John (F), I wish we'd met when I was 20 (you probably weren't born then). I'm sure we'd have made the perfect couple, me wanting them and you growing them! (LOL and apologies to your wife.) |
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JF - Assuming you have one of course. If not, I'll be right over. |
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Franz, thanks for the pulsatilla pics from Olga's garden Happy memories of a great trip.Good plants and friendly folk like Jaroslav Kasbal and Z Zvolanek and those amazing plantings in the Brno Botanic Garden |
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Ian M,
That Primula woolastoni is just amazing. Beautiful form to it. I think I am slowly getting to love the Primula species more and more as time goes on here in the SRGC. Not easy to get hold of here in Aus at all, but looking for seed around the place. I am very much looking forward to flowering some candelabra hybrids in a couple of years as Mark sent me some recently (thank you SO much Mark!! I hope i can do them justice).
Franz,
Those pulsatillas are beautiful!!
Paul T. Canberra, Australia. |
Herman van Beusekom (Hermanne)
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Hi,
I too have pictures ready to publish here but cannot send them due to over-size. I can resize them easily with Office Outlook but how can I enter here from Outlook ? Or are there other ways ? Thanks. |
Alan Grainger (Alpines)
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Lesley, Mark et al,
In response to the "stolen" pics....I am flattered that Mark should post them. I made them "tongue in cheek" and they certainly amuse the visitors to the shows......just not the judges *grin*
No harm done Mark......it's no different to me taking pics of plants on the showbench. Now if I see them for sale on e-bay then that's a different stoy.
Cheers
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Jozef Lemmens (Jozef)
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Hi Luit,
Re, Ledebouria.
When you look for Scilla adlamii (or Ledebouria adlamii) in the online RHS Plantfinder on http://www.rhs.org.uk/rhsplantfinder/plantfinder.a sp , you will be redirected to Ledebouria cooperi. I suppose the RHS Plantfinder is still accepted as “The Bible” concerning nomenclature, isn’t it. You may correct me, if I am wrong.
What the current name may be, it is a nice plant.
Jozef
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Jozef Lemmens (Jozef)
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Hi Herman (van Beusekom),
Glad to hear from you again.
I will try to help with your pictures, if you want. Send me a private message.
Jozef
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Paul Tyerman (Tyerman)
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Hmmmm..... when Mark reads my comment above about candelabra primulas he is probably going to be a bit confused..... it wasn't Mark who sent me tne primula seed, but rather another friend over that way. Obviously I was having a senior moment when I typed that earlier! Unfortunately I have been having far too many of them recently! *grin*
Paul T. Canberra, Australia. |
Robert Graham (Robgraham)
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Having promised some photos myself and then read Herman's mail on uploading, I went to check the rest of the Club site to see if there was an article on preparing photos for the Forum. Doesn't appear to be and yet Ian Young has done a lecture on this subject. Ian - can we prevail on you to transform that lecture into an instructional article please. .
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Ian Christie (Ichristie)
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Hi John, sorry for delay but here is another picture of the Paris alongside it's sister seedling which is quite different but i have no idea what they are and can't remember where seed came from. I also send these pics of a Trillium which so the book says is Tr. flexipes ' Eco Georgian Giant' a giant it sure is standing 1 meter high each leaf is 8 inches from tip to stem and the flowers are huge I think it is a cracker.
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Rob, most Forumists have told were they live at some point or other, and many refer frequently to their area, which I agree is helpful. A suggestion to all posters that mention be made of their geographical region is a good one. There is no workable way, without extensive manual input, that anything could be done about posts retrospectively. The prospect of having a "technical page" on the site, to help with advice about clearing out blocked caches, using the forum etc. is being looked into. The difficulty with any advice on picture sizing etc. is that the procedure will vary a little with every photo-programme each Member is using,and there must be almost as many programmes as there are posters!
Surprisingly, perhaps, that superhuman duo Fred and Ian actually only have 24 hours in their day, just like the rest of us, so I can only suggest you watch this space! |
Franz Hadacek (Fhadacek)
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Hello John,
Great pictures from Erythronium, Olsynium, Tulbaghia, and Triteleia. By the way, I like these plants too, but not possible such plants to cultivate in my garden. I have alpine house, the summer are to hot and my soil is lime. Very often me have in summer a temperature of 37° C.. I cultivate all my plants outside or in frame.
Franz |
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Thanks for the offer Lesley and I'm sure Patricia would be glad to get rid of me but you know the old saying 'a bird in the hand is worth 2 on the internet'.(grin)
Franz How on earth do you stop yourself and plants from melting at 37C ?
Here are a few more offerings.
Can anybody ID this weed I found growing in my garden? (Joke!!! before I get kicked out of the SRGC) It seems to be flowering much better than usual this year, for some reason.
Most growers are familiar with Jancaemonda ( and yes, I am told that it is now to be spelled with a (c) and not a (k). but there is the opposite cross for which the seed parent is Ramonda myconi alba and the pollen parent Jancaea and so it is called Ramcaea. I got my plant from Brian Wilson and I think it is beautiful. The colour is not exact due to the same sort of problems as film photos with the blue/mauve part of the spectrum under different light conditions. I also found that computer monitors vary because after talking about this with Brian I sent myself an e-mail photo and opened it at the local library and noticed a distinct difference from my home PC. We mustn’t grumble though, the benefits far outweigh the faults.
Next 2 wee things (you see I’m picking up the lingo)
Nectoscordum miniarum
You may remember the previous posting of Tristagma which I was advised to eat as an onion substitute. Well here is Tristagma nivale forma nivale from the same seed collection. I have rather warmed to this one for its elfin charm. (or am I losing the plot?)
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Dear John,
I admit I cannot Id this weed. What is it?
This is the kind of weed that comes up in my garden:
It seems that my solidas seed themselves without reverting to dirty lilac.
The next one is a seedling that I have had for some time.
I note today that I cannot see any difference from 'Munich Sunrise'which could be the seeed parent
The next one is Corydalis malkensis.
And at last Erythronium sibiricum 'Altai Snow' from Janis Ruksans. Bought last year.
All this is today April 26th in Middle Sweden
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Lesley Isabel Cox (Lcox)
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Oh well John, if you're going to be like that... Patricia's welcome to you! But do give her my greetings and best wishes.
I think all those South Americans are quite lovely and no, you're not losing the plot. Something odd is quite as exciting as something beautiful. If everything was a great beauty maybe we'd get bored with them in time.
A question - Is Olsynium biflorum a synonym for Phleiophleps biflora? I used to have that at one time, from a Pern and Watson collection I think. I remember it was similar to yours, perhaps with a little more veining, of a reddish brown, and had a glorious perfume. Alas it is no more. |
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Ian (McE), forgive me for being picky, but I'd like to correct your spelling above, to Clematis MARMORARIA. It's one of OURS you see, so I can't let that go.
I can't grow the jolly thing, or at least not for long periods and find it often dies either in bits or completely, after flowering - in a pot - I haven't planted it outside yet, and you'd be surprised how difficult it is in its homeland, actually to GET a plant.
The hybrids however, are very easy to grow and make lovely plants. It gets together with all of our native species so there are many forms from little compact cushions to fine-leaved climbers most if not all, with pale to deeper green flowers.
Although, as its name suggests, it dwells in marble rock, it hates lime. Why am I telling you this? Obviously you grow it very well.
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As for that weed..... I should have thought (did think, do think) that Dryas octopetala would be happiest in a coolish soil but with sun, to mimic the northern turfy places which are its home. Thus I grew it in previous gardens and got just a couple of flowers each year on a mat nearly a metre across. But now, I have a plant which has grown down a hot bank, really arid and baked in summer and with no water because if I hose, it just runs off, and the plant flowers wonderfully and sets fertile seed which never happened before. Not that I'm complaining but surely this is odd behaviour from this plant? |
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Hi Jozef, thanks for your tip. The problem with lists like the Plantfinder ( which I mostly use as a sort of reference too) is, when finding out the right name for a plant, that you not always know to which plant the name belongs. If you are lucky you find a nursery with a website and pictures. |
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Lesley Patricia says Hi
Olsynium biflorum according to some is now Phaiophleps biflora and sometimes lurks under Sisyrinchium biflorum. Who has a label that long for when they change their minds again?
Gote I like all your 'weeds' |
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yes Paul! I just assumed you got some from the customs guys. I'll try again this year.
"When in doubt plant a (hardy) Geranium - Margery Fish |
Paul Tyerman (Tyerman)
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Gote,
It really is amazing what seeds around for some people isn't it. I know that Corydalis solida exist in Australia as I do know someone who has a couple but I've never seen them offered for sale except once when I was too short of money to buy it (typical isn't it). Would be nice to have them seeding around the place, particularly when they are a nice strong colour like yours are!!
Wonderfully clear pics by the way. Beautiful!
Paul T. Canberra, Australia. |
Mark Smyth (Mark__n_ireland)
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here are a few plants from the garden today
a stunning Armeria totally covered in flowers
which Aquilegia is this?
Erodium x variabile 'Album'
first Dwarf Bearded Iris of the year 'Open Skys'
Potentilla neumanniana - again
and lastly I treated myself to a Rhododendron. The highly perfumed 'Lady Alice Fitzwilliam'
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Mark,
I still have Erodium x variabile in flower here in Aus too. I remember a few months ago you mentioned on here somewhere that you wondered whether we would ever have the same thing out in both the Southern and Northern hemispheres? I'll try to get a pic tomorrow so it can be up at the same time! *grin*
Paul T. Canberra, Australia. |
Herman van Beusekom (Hermanne)
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Thanks to Jozef Lemmens I can send some pictures. Peony wittmanniana is one of the first to flower here. Its shiny green leaves are excellent. Peony rockii should -I think- officially be named rockii-group or 'ex-rockii'. This one start soft pink and reverts in one day to creamy white.
Trillium grfl. roseum but not from a gardencenter or supermarket and so expensive but worthwhile.
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Jozef Lemmens (Jozef)
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Hi All,
A few from my garden.
Androsace robusta ssp. purpurea ‘Dolpo Form’. Dolpo is an area in the central Nepalese Himalaya.
Chamaecytisus polytrichus, a Josef Jurasek collection from Greece.
Oxalis laciniata 'FrØ'. FrØ isn’t a valid clone name, but is Danish for seedling.
Jozef Lemmens – Belgium (rather windy – 15°C) |
Paul Tyerman (Tyerman)
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Carol,
I see 4 wonderful pics from Jozef and 2 sets of 3 pics from Herman (Great pics from you too Herman). Does that mean that someone has fixed them up, or is there something wrong somewhere and some people can't see them?
That Oxalis is stunning Jozef!! Wow! The good purple colouration, veining and edging in white are very striking. You must be pleased with that if it is your own seedling. I have seen nothing like that here, but I have not seen O. laciniata available in this country.
Paul T. Canberra, Australia. |
Jozef Lemmens (Jozef)
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Hi Paul,
I got that Oxalis as a plant from Kirsten and Lars Andersen (Denmark) a couple of years ago. I don’t know whether it is a seedling from wild or garden collected seeds. Maybe Kirsten or Lars are “listening” here and can tell us more about this plant.
Jozef Lemmens - Belgium |
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Hi All,
Here are 3 Daphne petraea clones. The plants are still very small, but nice flowering at the moment.
Daphne petraea 'Corna Blacca'
Daphne petraea 'Punchinello'
Daphne petraea 'Lydora'
Jozef Lemmens - Belgium |
Margaret Young (Myoung)
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Josef and Herman, thanks for these photos! We are getting buds on the paeonias but it will be some time before they flower. I love them all, especially the rockii types.
I wish I could smell these daphne... good forms and different, too. D. petraea is so neat a plant.I like Lydora! |
Mark Smyth (Mark__n_ireland)
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very nice Jozef.
Mark, Antrim. Northern Ireland. z8+ |
Charlotte Jacobson (Charlotte)
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Jef,
Beautifully grown Daphne petraeas; all the others too. Thank you for sharing
Charlotte |
Herman van Beusekom (Hermanne)
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I hope that I have than finally overcome problems regarding sending pictures and so here a few.
Helonias bullata is an North American plant and so hardy and not at all ccommon.
A close up of Paeonia ex rockii as promised.
Pelargonium 'Splendide'is only hardy in a heated greenhouse here but such a charmer that I include it here.
This what we have as Primula 'Yellow Dusty Miller'but expect it not to be hardy. Any suggestions ?
Finally a puzzle 'what is the name of this plant': a japanese woodlander. First prize is NOT a mediterranean cruise in fact there is no prize at all.
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Herman van Beusekom (Hermanne)
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Sorry Charlotte for disturbing but when you scroll my message sidewards you will find the pictures. Do not how it happens but will no doubt overcome this in the future. |
Anthony Darby (Adarby)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, April 28, 2005 - 10:54 am: | |
This problem would not arise Herman if you pressed return (enter) before the image info. |
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, April 28, 2005 - 10:57 am: | |
Hello, Herman, I have edited your post to put the pix in a better position to avoid scrolling.
If you cut and paste the code for each picture into the place by the text where you want it to be, then click "enter" before and after each code to place the picture away from the text in clear space, this will avoid the problem. Your photos are good.
Hope this helps! |
Margaret Young (Myoung)
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Herman, is this flower an Ypsilandra? I do not know what species,but not Y. thibetica.
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Herman van Beusekom (Hermanne)
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Thank you Ian. Next time it should be perfect.
Margaret it is not Ypsilandra (which comes from China, Tibet) and whose flowers are white. But you are close: its leaves have -although shorter-the same shape and wintergreen. I am convinced that you know it. |
Charlotte Jacobson (Charlotte)
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Mark,
your mystery Aquilegia - possibly triternata?
Charlotte |
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Hermann, Auricula Old Yellow Dusty Miller is perfectly hardy in UK. It prefers slightly alkaline soil in semi shade and is often pot grown because rain washes off the white farina on the leaf and also the white paste in the flower centre. |
Göte K. A. Svanholm (Gote)
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Can it possibly be Heloniopsis orientalis in blue form? |
J.Ian Young (Iyoung)
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Ian Christie (Ichristie)
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Hi again from the frozen North we have had another very wet and cold day i do not know how any plants manage to flower? first is meconopsis punicea then two pic of Erythronium purpurascens. Maggie I guess we will have to come knocking on your door to get the much needed hugs so watch out?
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Herman van Beusekom (Hermanne)
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Gote,
You deserved to win a world-wide cruise because you are right. Alas no prices given but only the honor of being right. Congratulations. |
Margaret Young (Myoung)
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Well done, Gote! I knew I had seen this plant, but the name would not come to me! It is a very good colour, though, is it not? I think those I have seen and the one that still survives under a rhododendron in our garden, is much paler.... perhaps it would like some Aberdeen sun! So would we! It may well be that a Japanese woodland is sunnier than an Aberdeen garden, it would not surprise me at all. |
Carol Shaw (Carol)
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Maggi - you are sunnier than them all |
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Mark That's a fine Armeria & I like Iris Blue Skies.
Jozef
Beautiful Daphnes and I like the Helonias ( my book says it is native to bogs and swamps. The Paeonia is very striking.
Ian another beautiful Erythronium.
I've taken quite a few pics while the sun has been shining but just have time to post a few.First an orchid Calanthe tricarinata
Tiarella wherryi
Lithophragma parviflorum
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I've just spotted a few little aphids in the close up Calanthe. I'll do for themon the morrow!!! |
Paul Tyerman (Tyerman)
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Herman,
Lovely pics!! Could you possibly tell us more about Helonias bullata? I haven't come across it before but love your photo. If it is hardy as well then it should be quite a good garden plant. It looks like a nice form and colour so I may have to look out for it in the future. Any information would be appreciated. Thanks in anticipation.
Paul T. Canberra, Australia. |
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